Sanguina-chan
DracoJesi
hey, it's ok, I'm a big Trekkie myself....
and I see what you mean and I agree...somewhat, I think that like you said, there are better alternatives, but a for the option being parasitic, well it may seem that way, but sometimes you don't have a choice when it comes to gathering the resources you need to survive, and while that really wasn't the pressing issue, neither was the issue of weather it was the best idea, but if it was right, or at least thats how it came across to me.
and yeah being parasitic, may go with the right/wrong thing but, would colonizing the moon be "parasitic" in your view? or another planet for that matter, we'd have to live of it's resources, and while that could be considered parasitic if all we did is leech off of it, there could be benefits.
and Parasites must live too, of course they could do it in a better manner :/
as far as I'm concerned, theres no definite answer, you have to look at what will happen on a local,planetary and interplanetary scale.
If it can be done without harming any life-form or severely changeling an ecosystem, why not go for it, it may not be necessary or practical but it wouldn't be "wrong" by any moral standards, weather it's practicable is another issue.
no matter how hard you try, your going to leach of the planet/moon/ect. in some way
I see everyones concern with the effects it would have, but we have the technology to pull it off, and what about the issue of the moon slowly escaping the earth as I mentioned earlier?
If we can solve that problem and gain resources at the same time, (see my previous post with solution) is that a bad thing?
seems more like a symbiotic relationship more than a parasitic one to me.
as for it being sacred, I can see that again, and I do agree with this point, but the body can be viewed as sacred correct? and even though who view the body as sacred sometimes get tattoo's and piercings,. Is this not changing the look and feel of the body, sure but it doesn't change ones identity or personality.
many religious beings and or concepts have gone through physical change, for example, the Roman god Jupiter was really a Romanized version of the Greek god Zues, but they are the same being are they not?
so, for me, I can't make a decision untill how I know how this is going to effect things.
Possibly there's a difference, logical or not, about taking resources from our own giant ball of rock and taking it from a different ball of rock. We were born here, we evolved here, and while we have screwed things up in no small manner... well okay, there's no real excusing that, but it's done now and we can't change that.
I don't want us to repeat the same mistakes we've made here by doing that on globes we weren't born on. It's not our choice that we are here, this is our home. But it's our choice if we go elsewhere and I'll be damned if I'm going to let them screw up other planets as well. You know all those sci fi movies where it turns out that humanity is a plague upon the universe, going from world to world and raping it of all its resources? We like to think that that's not going to happen. But then you remember that actually, not everyone considers things as we do, and there are some extremely capitalist people out there who honestly don't give a flying f*** who or what they damage in their quest for more money and power. So it will happen, unless we stop it.
On this matter I am torn, because we do need a clean source of power. A happy helium isotope sounds very nice, very clean etc, but we have to consider the damage this could cause. On 60 minutes or whatever it was, there was at least one guy who knew how great the isotope was but was totally against the idea of taking anything from the moon. I think he was of the opinion that it could start massive wars over the resources.
One of the ideas behind body modification is that this is the way the body is
meant to be, only it was born blank, you know? So you have to go through and add everything as you go. Each modification is a part of your soul, something that was always there, it is just invisible until you get it done properly. One of the feelings you get with a new piece is that you are one step closer to "complete". This isn't the case with everyone, but with many people who consider bodmod as a spiritual practice. I could go on and on about the spiritual aspects of bodmod... It's joy, it really is. I gotta have me a suspension at some point.
But counter to changing the face of the moon, for example... well, these are our bodies, and we have the right to change them as we wish. If you're a person who thinks they are born the wrong gender, you have the right to change it... if you are a person who believes you shouldn't have a right arm... well currently, you don't have the right to get it removed, but you should, and hopefully in the future, these people will be able to do this. (At the moment they tend to maim themselves in order to get the amputation, which is unsafe and rather distressing.) Anyway, these are ourselves. Modifying the moon seems a bit.... wrong, symbol or not. I have this horrible vision of giant advertisements or something scoured into the surface. "Buy KitKats!" **shudder**
kitkats xd, theres a difference between using it as a natural resource and using it was an advertisement board XD
I do however see your point, and I agree that their needs to be proper guideline set in place in relation to the colonization and/or use of new worlds.
I still don't think that this, if done right, will hurt the moon any, again it depends on the methods used and how it will affect the moons behavior.
and I'd hope that some other galactic power (hoping it exists) will intervene xd
sure there are risks, just like with pretty much anything, but we are meant to learn, to evolve, it's our nature.
to simply not explore or try new things is to limit ones development not only as a whole, but as a race/community, weather it be physical,mental and/or spiritual.
I believe that do to our nature we will eventually (if we don't kill our selfs first) end up traveling to other worlds, solar systems and even galaxies, theres no doubt in my mind we can make it.
I just hope that with such knowledge that humanity will realize the responsibility of such technology and that their actions could not only affect their race, but many others as well.
I'm not about to let someone "screw up" this world (any more anyway) or any other thats for sure, but I do realize the importance of such research.
and besides, if it makes you feel any better, scientific research suggests that the moon was once part of the earth, this theory makes a lot of sense too, you should look it up some time...
Edit: I just wanted to include that I am into Astrology and would be against any alterations that would vastly affect the moons circle and/or path for personal reasons.
also, how is mining on the moon any different than mining on the earth?, especially if they were originally one.
this goes the same for building structures there, although I would agree that a giant logo etched in the surface wouldn't really be acceptable.
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