[ Poll ] Anyone else can't stand Twilight?

Are you a?

fan?		28.7%	[ 1998 ]
hater?		32.6%	[ 2267 ]
neutral?		28.2%	[ 1960 ]
Edward is teh HOT		10.5%	[ 730 ]

Total Votes: 6955

[Aldorel]

100-page party sounds good. 3nodding I'm glad you got a spot, Ane. After all,, you are our foundress.
EDIT: The last spot, apparently. eek

Mcfeegle

I just finished the book today and am now going to rant about the ending.

1. When James kidnaps her mom she complains about not having anything of value to hold against him to get him to let her go. I beg to differ. All she needed to do was get a dagger, threaten to kill herself, and James would have done what she asked short of stopping trying to kill her. Why? Because he doesn't want her dead, he wants to kill her. If he wasn't the one who killed her then that would ruin everything and he would have lost. He would rather have her get away then and come after her later. But Bella didn't think of this oh-so-obvious answer. Why? Because she's an idiot who has no sense of self worth.

2. I felt that the ending was a crop-out. It would have been so much more powerful if Bella would have practically been killed by James and Edward was forced to make the choice between letting her die and turning her into a vampire. Unfortunately, all that happens is they get there in the nick of time, suck the poison out of her, take her to the hospital, and everything is fine and dandy. I hate it when authors chicken out from making their endings the least bit sad.

I apologize for my rambling. It's probably kind of pathetic that the most fun time I've had in a long time was arguing about why Twilight sucks in my creative writing class this afternoon. All my fellow students have now decided that I'm predisposed to hate any book other people like. biggrin

Nice rant! I'm sorry that no one in the creative writing class could sympathize. At least most of my Twilight-loving friends can admit that the book as flaws. (One said that if she had been Bella, she would have slapped Ed when he left her.)

I like the holding-herself-hostage approach. I'd been leaning towards "stall him through flattery and/or convince him to change you." But yours assumes that Edward is at no point in time coming to the rescue... a noble proposition.

[Aldorel]

Has anyone noticed that the preview for Eclipse sounds familiar?

Stephenie Meyer

"BELLA?"

Edward's soft voice came from behind me. I turned to see him spring lightly up the porch steps, his hair windblown from running. He pulled me into his arms at once, just like he had in the parking lot, and kissed me again.

This kiss frightened me. There was too much tension, too strong an edge to the way his lips crushed mine—like he was afraid we had only so much time left to us.

He kisses her as if he's going to be leaving her...
I don't know... maybe like the beginning of New Moon?

Only so many plots available in the world. You have to double up somewhere.

[Mcfeegle]

Aldorel

Nice rant! I'm sorry that no one in the creative writing class could sympathize. At least most of my Twilight-loving friends can admit that the book as flaws. (One said that if she had been Bella, she would have slapped Ed when he left her.)

I like the holding-herself-hostage approach. I'd been leaning towards "stall him through flattery and/or convince him to change you." But yours assumes that Edward is at no point in time coming to the rescue... a noble proposition.

I think it's about time Bella stops relying on Edward and does something for herself. Probably never going to happen, but a girl can dream.

Luckily, the people in my creative writing class were intelligent fans, which is probably why it was so much fun to argue with them. They could admit Twilight had flaws, like Bella being the main character. The main arguement was wether or not Edward is a stalker. Which he is.

[Gearfish]

Mcfeegle

Aldorel

Nice rant! I'm sorry that no one in the creative writing class could sympathize. At least most of my Twilight-loving friends can admit that the book as flaws. (One said that if she had been Bella, she would have slapped Ed when he left her.)

I like the holding-herself-hostage approach. I'd been leaning towards "stall him through flattery and/or convince him to change you." But yours assumes that Edward is at no point in time coming to the rescue... a noble proposition.

I think it's about time Bella stops relying on Edward and does something for herself. Probably never going to happen, but a girl can dream.

Luckily, the people in my creative writing class were intelligent fans, which is probably why it was so much fun to argue with them. They could admit Twilight had flaws, like Bella being the main character. The main arguement was wether or not Edward is a stalker. Which he is.

Bella hath not the cunning to think of how to save herself, other than to scream/get her Prince (er, vampire) Charming.

I have encountered Twilight fans at library functions, but one of them threatened to attack me for badmouthing Edward Cullen O_o

[DruidTigeress]

Hee hee, this thread is great! Everything you've said is soooo true, and yet, somehow I still enjoyed the book.

The way you've put it is so flat; I think the reason I enjoyed it regardless is because the characters were deeper that that (must kill aweful cliche and find a better analegy >.< -!) had another dimension to them. (*sigh* Not really much better is it, but you know what I mean)

I think the lack of action is in some ways more real, becuase, let's face it, real people's lives are not that action packed. (And yes, I know that real people's lives do not have vampire in them either, but that's not the point!)

One thing I didn't like was in the second book this constant thing with the voice in her head that appeared to be headign somewhere and then... just pittered (uh... don't know if that's the right spelling...) out.

(( whee So tempted to answer 'Edward is teh HOT' on poll))

[Mcfeegle]

Firinafel

I have encountered Twilight fans at library functions, but one of them threatened to attack me for badmouthing Edward Cullen O_o

Yeah, I had a random girl I'd never even met before walk up to me in the hallway and tell me they hated me for disliking Twilight.

DruidTigress

The way you've put it is so flat; I think the reason I enjoyed it regardless is because the characters were deeper that that (must kill aweful cliche and find a better analegy >.< -!) had another dimension to them. (*sigh* Not really much better is it, but you know what I mean)

That's exactly the problem, the characters aren't three dimensional. Bella is clumsy, Edward is hot, and that's all.

[DruidTigeress]

Well, I guess that's just different oppinions then. At some points I guess you're right, but at other, I think their reactions are totally real.

He he he, it's actually embarrasing to think how much I enjoyed the first book. I started hyperventalating when I first found out about the movie.

Ehm.. maybe I should get out of this thread while I still can..

[Ane the panther]

DruidTigeress

Well, I guess that's just different oppinions then. At some points I guess you're right, but at other, I think their reactions are totally real.

He he he, it's actually embarrasing to think how much I enjoyed the first book. I started hyperventalating when I first found out about the movie.

Ehm.. maybe I should get out of this thread while I still can..

Don't leave! We like fans like you. heart

About that hundred page party? *cracks open bottle of apple cider*

[Aldorel]

Yay! Hundred page party!
*pulls brownies out of the oven*
I have double chocolate, marbled, and mint.

DruidTigeress

Hee hee, this thread is great! Everything you've said is soooo true, and yet, somehow I still enjoyed the book.

The way you've put it is so flat; I think the reason I enjoyed it regardless is because the characters were deeper that that (must kill aweful cliche and find a better analegy >.< -!) had another dimension to them. (*sigh* Not really much better is it, but you know what I mean)

I think the lack of action is in some ways more real, becuase, let's face it, real people's lives are not that action packed. (And yes, I know that real people's lives do not have vampire in them either, but that's not the point!)

One thing I didn't like was in the second book this constant thing with the voice in her head that appeared to be headign somewhere and then... just pittered (uh... don't know if that's the right spelling...) out.

Likewise! I enjoyed the books despite being able to find any literary merit whatsoever in them. So I vent here.

I hated how the voice-in-my-head petered out. I must admit I was expecting her to metamorphosize into a vampire even without any undead in the vicinity. Especially when she goes all cold... but then in turns out it's just Jacob getting hotter. stare (Though apparently not as hot as Ed).

Lots of stuff goes on in everyday life. The trick is finding the action that lurks beneath the surface.

[Ane the panther]

Aldorel

Yay! Hundred page party!
*pulls brownies out of the oven*
I have double chocolate, marbled, and mint.

I must admit I was expecting her to metamorphosize into a vampire even without any undead in the vicinity. Especially when she goes all cold... but then in turns out it's just Jacob getting hotter. stare (Though apparently not as hot as Ed).

I never thought of that, but it would have bee
n pretty cool. The story would have been much more exciting.

Oooh. You brought brownies? Yum. domokun
*Hands out 'I hate Twilight' T-shirts*

Look Gaia has provided some wine and cheese cheese_whine (Or, at least, I think that's what that is)

[Minari]

Ane the panther

Oh, I have nothing against German people. I have no delusions about them all being little Hitlers. And I'm totally for understanding and such (every been to catsthatlooklikehiter.com? awesome).

Sorry, reflex defensive. When German, Russian, and Japanese are your favorite languages, you tend to get a little over-protective sweatdrop (That site kind of frightens me, but only in the good wayXD)

Yami_Tenshi_416

Okay, I like twilight and I can sorta understand why ppl would hate it, sometimes it does get annoying. I like twilight because of the way it unfolds. I like how everything gets explained at some point in the story. As for the POV comment, Stephenie Meyer is releasing the book "Midnight Sun" which is "Twilight" in Edward's point of view.

Apparently, I can not stress this enough, "If she has to write a book in his point of view to get his thoughts/feelings/motives across to us, her first-person is bad!" Now, if in Midnight Sun we can understand Bella, even though we're not in her head and even if we haven't read Twilight, she has improved. But just writing the thing does not rectify. DOES NOT!

About the fictional guys thing: I have a problem with falling for fictional men, but never anything like Edward. Good, human-like characters. And I will never, ever compare a real person to fictional one. Well, not in a "so-and-so isn't as cool as such-and-such!" way. I ain't shallows like that.

In other news, I am so ready to party and I need an "I hate Twilight" shirt. Or I'll die. And that would be sad.

[Gearfish]

Aldorel

Lots of stuff goes on in everyday life. The trick is finding the action that lurks beneath the surface.

Yesh, but life my has no zombie robots. sad

Ooh! Ooh! I wanna "I Hate Twilight" shirt! *opens bag of pixy sticks*

[Wendy_Chan]

I love how the threads with the most number of posts are the "I Hate Eragon" and "I hate Twilight" threads. xd

Yeah, at the library book board, the amount of eighth grade fangirling going on over that book was enough to make me want to vomit my pizza and cookies and NOT read the book, but I also want to out of morbid curiosity.

[Alice Parker]

DruidTigeress

Hee hee, this thread is great! Everything you've said is soooo true, and yet, somehow I still enjoyed the book.

The way you've put it is so flat; I think the reason I enjoyed it regardless is because the characters were deeper that that (must kill aweful cliche and find a better analegy >.< -!) had another dimension to them. (*sigh* Not really much better is it, but you know what I mean)

I think the lack of action is in some ways more real, becuase, let's face it, real people's lives are not that action packed. (And yes, I know that real people's lives do not have vampire in them either, but that's not the point!)

One thing I didn't like was in the second book this constant thing with the voice in her head that appeared to be headign somewhere and then... just pittered (uh... don't know if that's the right spelling...) out.

(( whee So tempted to answer 'Edward is teh HOT' on poll))

It would have been cool if Edward was able to...oh gosh, I can't think of what it's called...talk to her using super awesome mind powers! My cat's being weird. I gotta go see what's up... sweatdrop

[Minari]

COMPANY! *Luffs* Think there'd be a way to make such shirts without, uh, provoking legal action or something? I mean, I suppose we could make 'em by hand...