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Lil Kai
You know what's really annoying when you start writing a fic out of order

I always start out of order. XD I just usually write the parts I'm thinking about first, then go back and reorganize.
I normaly don't do that but this damn GazettE fan fic keeps pissing me off and I keep writing out of order then having to remeber what I did and what's already been posted....someone told me I should keep an ongoing list of injuries I do to poor Kai XD
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Lady Sedia Auvryarn
milila
I'm having a hell of a time researching my current fanfiction >_<


oooo what ya research?? Me wants details hehe

and sorry I haven't been around sweatdrop new jobs are fun but right now the schedule is totally chaotic so I never know what I will be doing even in an hour xd

I'm researching treatment for the mentally insane between the years of 1900-1920. I am working on a twilight fanfic about Alice's history, and apparently Miss. Meyers didn't do her research all that well, that or Alice traveled to the 1930's. In the first book she tells us Alice is sent to an insane asylum, and put through electroshock therapy. Alice was born in 1901 and changed around 1920 . The problem lies with the fact that electroshock therapy wasn't used to treat mental illness until 1937 >_>. Moving beyond that problem I can't find any good description of insane asylums during the early 20th century.
Actually, In 1903, electric shock theparpy(Sp?) was being messed around with. Though most people being tested on would end up being set on fire! Anywho, Meyer isn't the best for research, or good writing.... stare
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milila
I'm having a hell of a time researching my current fanfiction >_<


oooo what ya research?? Me wants details hehe

and sorry I haven't been around sweatdrop new jobs are fun but right now the schedule is totally chaotic so I never know what I will be doing even in an hour xd

I'm researching treatment for the mentally insane between the years of 1900-1920. I am working on a twilight fanfic about Alice's history, and apparently Miss. Meyers didn't do her research all that well, that or Alice traveled to the 1930's. In the first book she tells us Alice is sent to an insane asylum, and put through electroshock therapy. Alice was born in 1901 and changed around 1920 . The problem lies with the fact that electroshock therapy wasn't used to treat mental illness until 1937 >_>. Moving beyond that problem I can't find any good description of insane asylums during the early 20th century.


Yep she did no research at all rolleyes Also sorry Ritzy, but Electroconvulsive therapy wasn't introduced until the late 1930's like milila said smile and it wasn't put into widespread use until the 40's...but yes it did tend to light people on fire if used incorrectly which was quiet common.

As for mental hospitals in the early 20th century...all you have to do is think of hell on earth really (for the crazies and the hospital workers alike). Basically they were a place to put crazy people and forget about them. They generally received no care medically speaking, were left to wonder or were strapped to a bed all day, and sometimes weren't even watched to make sure they ate or were clean. This idea was on the way down during the late 20's-early 30's though as the people who ran the hospital wanted to increase their image.

Also, depending on exactly when in the 20's your aiming for, you need to remember that WW1 and the Great Depression both caused a huge influx in the amount of people in mental hospitals. Soldiers came in with shell shock and then hundreds of depressed and incompetent people came in so, along with the crazies, she would be seeing those kinds of people depending on when she goes in. Just picture a hospital ward full of beds and a bunch of crazy people wondering around and drooling or talking to themselves...perhaps eating the checkers sweatdrop

I can see how it would be hard to find any information cause most of the earlier treatments we know about (Electroconvulsive therapy, insulin shock therapy, frontal lobotomy's...) started to come around in the late 30's-early 40's. Those were the truly barbaric times that a lot of people like to focus on no matter what time the story is set in. However there is one therapy I can think of that was in wide use in the 20's and thats Fever Therapy. Also it was the time of Freud and his psychoanalysis. His id, ego, and superego stuff came onto the scene in 1923.

People got talked to a lot and there was that basic "those that can be save will be saved" attitude. People with depression and "lesser" illnesses were generally not put in the mental hospital "system" (meaning left to wonder with the crazies) or at least not for very long. People with schizophrenia though were thought of as a lost cause for awhile until they started shocking them (which still rarely worked). Those were the kinds of people you would see in a mental hospital, the ones who we couldn't communicate with yet or find effective drugs for.

Anyways, I am talking to much lol I blame my psych degree rofl well, I hope it helped nonetheless 3nodding
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milila
I'm having a hell of a time researching my current fanfiction >_<


oooo what ya research?? Me wants details hehe

and sorry I haven't been around sweatdrop new jobs are fun but right now the schedule is totally chaotic so I never know what I will be doing even in an hour xd

I'm researching treatment for the mentally insane between the years of 1900-1920. I am working on a twilight fanfic about Alice's history, and apparently Miss. Meyers didn't do her research all that well, that or Alice traveled to the 1930's. In the first book she tells us Alice is sent to an insane asylum, and put through electroshock therapy. Alice was born in 1901 and changed around 1920 . The problem lies with the fact that electroshock therapy wasn't used to treat mental illness until 1937 >_>. Moving beyond that problem I can't find any good description of insane asylums during the early 20th century.


Yep she did no research at all rolleyes Also sorry Ritzy, but Electroconvulsive therapy wasn't introduced until the late 1930's like milila said smile and it wasn't put into widespread use until the 40's...but yes it did tend to light people on fire if used incorrectly which was quiet common.

As for mental hospitals in the early 20th century...all you have to do is think of hell on earth really (for the crazies and the hospital workers alike). Basically they were a place to put crazy people and forget about them. They generally received no care medically speaking, were left to wonder or were strapped to a bed all day, and sometimes weren't even watched to make sure they ate or were clean. This idea was on the way down during the late 20's-early 30's though as the people who ran the hospital wanted to increase their image.

Also, depending on exactly when in the 20's your aiming for, you need to remember that WW1 and the Great Depression both caused a huge influx in the amount of people in mental hospitals. Soldiers came in with shell shock and then hundreds of depressed and incompetent people came in so, along with the crazies, she would be seeing those kinds of people depending on when she goes in. Just picture a hospital ward full of beds and a bunch of crazy people wondering around and drooling or talking to themselves...perhaps eating the checkers sweatdrop

I can see how it would be hard to find any information cause most of the earlier treatments we know about (Electroconvulsive therapy, insulin shock therapy, frontal lobotomy's...) started to come around in the late 30's-early 40's. Those were the truly barbaric times that a lot of people like to focus on no matter what time the story is set in. However there is one therapy I can think of that was in wide use in the 20's and thats Fever Therapy. Also it was the time of Freud and his psychoanalysis. His id, ego, and superego stuff came onto the scene in 1923.

People got talked to a lot and there was that basic "those that can be save will be saved" attitude. People with depression and "lesser" illnesses were generally not put in the mental hospital "system" (meaning left to wonder with the crazies) or at least not for very long. People with schizophrenia though were thought of as a lost cause for awhile until they started shocking them (which still rarely worked). Those were the kinds of people you would see in a mental hospital, the ones who we couldn't communicate with yet or find effective drugs for.

Anyways, I am talking to much lol I blame my psych degree rofl well, I hope it helped nonetheless 3nodding

Thank you so much XD, I really appreciate the info. It was actually a lot more helpful then most of the stuff I read. I am reading about insane asylums in the early 20th century called "The Mind That Found Itself" by Clifford Whittingham Beers. I'm really hopping to start the rough draft of my story soon, but I want to be as accurate as possible. I am a stickler for detail. When I read stories I'm the a** hole who comments on every detail. XD
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Thank you so much XD, I really appreciate the info. It was actually a lot more helpful then most of the stuff I read. I am reading about insane asylums in the early 20th century called "The Mind That Found Itself" by Clifford Whittingham Beers. I'm really hopping to start the rough draft of my story soon, but I want to be as accurate as possible. I am a stickler for detail. When I read stories I'm the a** hole who comments on every detail. XD


I love you xd lol I do the exact same thing! I am a detail queen...it can take forever for me to write something because everything has to be just right whee and btw I like "a** holes" like you wink we need more people who pay attention to detail 3nodding
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Thank you so much XD, I really appreciate the info. It was actually a lot more helpful then most of the stuff I read. I am reading about insane asylums in the early 20th century called "The Mind That Found Itself" by Clifford Whittingham Beers. I'm really hopping to start the rough draft of my story soon, but I want to be as accurate as possible. I am a stickler for detail. When I read stories I'm the a** hole who comments on every detail. XD


I love you xd lol I do the exact same thing! I am a detail queen...it can take forever for me to write something because everything has to be just right whee and btw I like "a** holes" like you wink we need more people who pay attention to detail 3nodding

I feel bad sometimes, because I can be so picky, but sometimes it is just to ridiculous to ignore. Just recently I had to correct someone, on the fact that you couldn't drive from Alaska to California without a passport, and you certainly can't do it in the matter of a day. It was an incredibly horrible fanfic, but it still seemed to get stellar reviews. I was also the first one to correct her on this matter. I just don't understand the fanfic community sometimes. Ohh well we can correct the injustices of fanfiction together scream !!!!!!
milila
I feel bad sometimes, because I can be so picky, but sometimes it is just to ridiculous to ignore. Just recently I had to correct someone, on the fact that you couldn't drive from Alaska to California without a passport, and you certainly can't do it in the matter of a day. It was an incredibly horrible fanfic, but it still seemed to get stellar reviews. I was also the first one to correct her on this matter. I just don't understand the fanfic community sometimes. Ohh well we can correct the injustices of fanfiction together scream !!!!!!

That's not being picky. That's demanding rationality. Honestly, reading that kind of stuff (in fanfiction or otherwise) makes me feel dumb. neutral

(Oh, we're past the 100th post! *does happy jig*)
milila
I feel bad sometimes, because I can be so picky, but sometimes it is just to ridiculous to ignore. Just recently I had to correct someone, on the fact that you couldn't drive from Alaska to California without a passport, and you certainly can't do it in the matter of a day. It was an incredibly horrible fanfic, but it still seemed to get stellar reviews. I was also the first one to correct her on this matter. I just don't understand the fanfic community sometimes. Ohh well we can correct the injustices of fanfiction together scream !!!!!!

Just reading that pissed me off. :O I hate it when some stories just don't make sense.

[On a side note: I've been too busy to work on my fic, so I've placed it on a temporary hold.]
White Rabbit Redux
[On a side note: I've been too busy to work on my fic, so I've placed it on a temporary hold.]

Aw, sorry to hear that. Here's hoping your schedule clears so you can return to the dark side. I mean, to us. ^^
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milila
I feel bad sometimes, because I can be so picky, but sometimes it is just to ridiculous to ignore. Just recently I had to correct someone, on the fact that you couldn't drive from Alaska to California without a passport, and you certainly can't do it in the matter of a day. It was an incredibly horrible fanfic, but it still seemed to get stellar reviews. I was also the first one to correct her on this matter. I just don't understand the fanfic community sometimes. Ohh well we can correct the injustices of fanfiction together scream !!!!!!

That's not being picky. That's demanding rationality. Honestly, reading that kind of stuff (in fanfiction or otherwise) makes me feel dumb. neutral

(Oh, we're past the 100th post! *does happy jig*)


exactly...and the worst part is, a lot of the publishers think we're to stupid to notice rolleyes like milila was saying with Twilight earlier....as a psych grad I am so happy I didn't read it lol would have annoyed me soooo much! evil

anyways, yay for over 100!! rofl

White Rabbit Redux
[On a side note: I've been too busy to work on my fic, so I've placed it on a temporary hold.]


ugh I know how that goes hehe I've been having trouble finding time to work on mine too but luckily I have tomorrow off so its writin' time!! whee
Padawan
I shall try. xD;;

Sedia
I'd be able to work on it today and tomorrow, but I'm just tired from today's Yard Sale and tomorrow my brother is taking over the computer, so no luck there for me. :/
I can't work on it on Monday, either. I have company and we seriously need to get crackin' on some work. xD;;

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I have started on the chapter, but I am not liking the way it's turning out. This is what I have so far, bear in mind it's mostly neglected of any look throughs and is only the very beginning. Yeah, there's a lot of neglect and I've already picked up several problems. I'm just too lazy to try to correct them right now. ;P

Chapter Four
Disaster

The impact was felt throughout all of Sinnoh and in some parts of other regions. Most had interpreted as a catastrophic earthquake as the shaking caused immense amounts of damage to property. Houses tumbled from their foundations, walls collapsed, streets cracked open, water pipes were damaged, landslides were caused, cars toppled over, human casualties increased, and more. Electric plants were halted from producing juice for the homes, companies, and private lands of the people. By 3 AM, everyone was wide-awake, trying to make sense of things. A powerful earthquake hit, caused damage, and the power is out. With no one to supply them answers, panic ensued. People ravaged the streets, running around in a state of panic. Some exploited panic, mugging them for whatever they had. People robbed stores and homes, neglecting human life.

Within the hour, the electricity returned. In unison, those that remained indoors watched the same program as everyone else: a live feed of President Jenny standing in front of her podium, staring into the cameras, maintaining her posture – but her eyes gave it all away; she was afraid. She cleared her throat, placing her hands on the top of the podium. She was wearing a formal suit, but was dressed clumsily, signifying that she had barely been awakened and informed of the situation. In fact, she knew as much as the people watching the live feed. “Ladies and gentlemen, we must urge you to remain calm. We wish for everyone to remain indoors, safe from those that have decided to vandalize the cities of our nations. As of now we have no information on how this had occurred. Unfortunately, we seem have to of lost contact from one city, located in the Sinnoh region. We are working as hard as we can to regain contact with the city. We have also dispatched our entire force to bring back order to our cities. Any help we can receive from the local police would surely be accepted. Does anyone have any questions at this time?” The completely filled room roared in questions, hands shooting up, mouths flapping about with the same questions being screamed out, albeit worded differently than others. President Jenny looked on in fear, and anticipation.
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I feel bad sometimes, because I can be so picky, but sometimes it is just to ridiculous to ignore. Just recently I had to correct someone, on the fact that you couldn't drive from Alaska to California without a passport, and you certainly can't do it in the matter of a day. It was an incredibly horrible fanfic, but it still seemed to get stellar reviews. I was also the first one to correct her on this matter. I just don't understand the fanfic community sometimes. Ohh well we can correct the injustices of fanfiction together scream !!!!!!

That's not being picky. That's demanding rationality. Honestly, reading that kind of stuff (in fanfiction or otherwise) makes me feel dumb. neutral

(Oh, we're past the 100th post! *does happy jig*)


exactly...and the worst part is, a lot of the publishers think we're to stupid to notice rolleyes like milila was saying with Twilight earlier....as a psych grad I am so happy I didn't read it lol would have annoyed me soooo much! evil

anyways, yay for over 100!! rofl

I seriously don't know why they think we wont notice that kind of stuff, especially if it is a popular book series. It is rather annoying when I see inconsistencies and bad facts in books. What are editors there for if they just decide not to correct something.
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Thank you so much XD, I really appreciate the info. It was actually a lot more helpful then most of the stuff I read. I am reading about insane asylums in the early 20th century called "The Mind That Found Itself" by Clifford Whittingham Beers. I'm really hopping to start the rough draft of my story soon, but I want to be as accurate as possible. I am a stickler for detail. When I read stories I'm the a** hole who comments on every detail. XD


I love you xd lol I do the exact same thing! I am a detail queen...it can take forever for me to write something because everything has to be just right whee and btw I like "a** holes" like you wink we need more people who pay attention to detail 3nodding

I feel bad sometimes, because I can be so picky, but sometimes it is just to ridiculous to ignore. Just recently I had to correct someone, on the fact that you couldn't drive from Alaska to California without a passport, and you certainly can't do it in the matter of a day. It was an incredibly horrible fanfic, but it still seemed to get stellar reviews. I was also the first one to correct her on this matter. I just don't understand the fanfic community sometimes. Ohh well we can correct the injustices of fanfiction together scream !!!!!!

Please do. The fanfiction world needs more people like you who pick the inconsistencies to bits. heart
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I have to do calculus homework today crying .

*does happy dance for our 100th post* cool

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