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do genitals matter to you in a romantic relationship?

I am straight and I will not date anyone within my gender 0.51131221719457 51.1% [ 113 ]
I am gay and I will only date people of my gender 0.067873303167421 6.8% [ 15 ]
I am bisexual and I do not care 0.32579185520362 32.6% [ 72 ]
I do not understand the definition of straight and homosexual 0.095022624434389 9.5% [ 21 ]
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And I'd do it just so I could have an extra. whee
EDIT: The poll is such bullshit I think I'm constipated now.
Skittish Nature-Boy
And I'd do it just so I could have an extra. whee
EDIT: The poll is such bullshit I think I'm constipated now.

That's not fair. You can't have extras when some of us don't even get to have one.

Maybe you should have Metamucil handy when browsing ED?

BTW, I really like the cat sex in your signature and I always forget to tell you that.
im pansexual.
which means love has no gender
Saphir3 z y d r a t e
im pansexual.
which means love has no gender

You're too close-minded! Hypocrite! I'm OMNIsexual! Love KNOWS NO SPECIES, age, state of being or existence! crying

Geisterfahrer

That's not fair. You can't have extras when some of us don't even get to have one.

Maybe you should have Metamucil handy when browsing ED?

BTW, I really like the cat sex in your signature and I always forget to tell you that.

Oh, I'm sure the men in lab coats can make plenty.
But I'll wait...just for you. whee
Oh thank you! whee Those are my last three pangendered polyamorous lovers. We broke up, sadly. They didn't want to ever let me join in. cry
Kaosgirl
Princess Z-M
I like natural born males as in people who are born with an actual God-given male genitals. Not the kind that you can get from a lab coat.


Out of curiousity:
If you couldn't tell the difference, would you still care?


Good question. However, since I grew up in the SF/East Bay area in the great BS state of Ca, I do believe I am pretty good at telling the difference and bit well learned in the matter. Plus in a relationship that would probably come up before we got to that point so....

Still what you don't know can't hurt but it would probably be a deal breaker for me at this point in my life. No matter how "open-minded" I might be.
Princess Z-M
Kaosgirl
Princess Z-M
I like natural born males as in people who are born with an actual God-given male genitals. Not the kind that you can get from a lab coat.


Out of curiousity:
If you couldn't tell the difference, would you still care?


Good question. However, since I grew up in the SF/East Bay area in the great BS state of Ca, I do believe I am pretty good at telling the difference and bit well learned in the matter. Plus in a relationship that would probably come up before we got to that point so....


Meh. It's a hypothetical; presume massive improvements in the field that eliminate every sign that could be used to catch the difference.

Princess Z-M

Still what you don't know can't hurt but it would probably be a deal breaker for me at this point in my life. No matter how "open-minded" I might be.


Fair enough, though I can't even pretend to understand that mindset.

which actually bugs the ******** out of me in itself
Kaosgirl


Meh. It's a hypothetical; presume massive improvements in the field that eliminate every sign that could be used to catch the difference. Fair enough, though I can't even pretend to understand that mindset.

which actually bugs the ******** out of me in itself


Well people do (to some extend) change so don't think too poorly of me for what I say today/night. I will most likely change this opinion in a few years (maybe).

I am one of the few "Straight" Black that don't bash the GLBT community and understand that if you aren't some super old money heir/heiress, you probably have some hardships and are being oppressed by society gay, colored, poor, or what have you.


So yeah don't allow it to bug you too much. I just don't like the medicine/doctoring field too much due to personal reasons.
Gho the Girl
tererun3
Gho the Girl
tererun3
Gho the Girl
Not to be too much of an attention whore, but I think she's referring to me.


This is true, but namedropping is bannable so I was hoping you would come.
Hey, I was making a timely joke. If that's bannable, the mods need to get a sense of humour.


No quicker way to get your thread chatterboxed than to turn it into a namedrop thread instead of something that involves other people's ideas.
So you want this chatterboxed?


You are the obtuse one. No, I kept the namedropping out of it and made it a question to all which makes it an appropriate ED topic. You were the one who came in and told everyone your strange idea.
Gho the Girl

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You just made the claim that you know a homosexual guy who has a female partner and likes it. Now to many people that would be a bisexual person, but to you the fact that he likes women does not matter and he can make up whatever definition he wants and pretend to be homosexual.
No, he's legitimately homosexual.


No, he is being fashionably gay. There are a lot of people today who want the title of gay but do not want to do the work. He is pretending to be gay for whatever reason. I would guess it is because being bisexual carries the stigma of being confused. The reality is that many people fall under the bisexual label, but have a preference of a specific gender. About the only time I could see someone disregarding certain sexual acts in labelling themselves is if they experimented to see if they could deal with a gender they did not think they were attracted to.
Gho the Girl

He just happens to be married to a woman. He was married to a woman before he realised he was gay. However, he loves his wife so much, and she loves him so much, that they decided to find ways to make that work.

You don't have the authority to tell him he's not gay.


No, he does not have the authority to make up his own definition when he clearly does not exist within it.
Being gay requires one to be attracted to other men, it does not require him to be in a gay relationship.


However, you just said he is attracted to a woman so he clearly is bisexual., You see, a homosexual man is not attracted to a woman. Since he is attracted to his wife he becomes bisexual. This should be really simple until you get people trying to be something they are not because they want to have that label.
Gho the Girl

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If he is voluntarily there and not closeted then he is bisexual.
I thought sexuality was decided on, you know, sexuality, as opposed to his lifestyle.


There is no gay lifestyle. If you are telling us he is gay because he prances around and acts gay that is an entirely different issue. The idea that there is a gay lifestyle is a stereotype. Gay people simply live and exist.
Gho the Girl

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If he is in love with a woman then he is at least bisexual.
I love plenty of women. This doesn't make me straight.


Are you really this stupid? Did you really just ask that question?

Since you are going all elementary school here. You have your homosexual people who get involved with people of their own gender. Then you have your heterosexual or straight people who get involved with people of the opposite gender. Then you have you bisexual people who will get involved with both. Wow, if I had to explain that to you I really think you need some help.
Gho the Girl

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It is the nature of it,
Not according to psychologists.
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and he can claim whatever he wants he is WRONG!
You can claim whatever you want you are WRONG!

woo, turnabout is fun!


No, now you are just acting stupid and claiming that we can make up our own definitions for everything. Really, if that is the defense you are using then you have lost.
Gho the Girl

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He turned in his f** card when he loved a woman.
Does this make you the f** police? rofl


No, it just means that if he claims he is gay and he is attracted to his wife he is an idiot.



Gho the Girl

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He doesn't get to be fashionably gay. Even if you claim he does.
You don't get to make that call, even if you claim you do.

More turnabout! how fun!


Yes, I do get to make that call.
Gho the Girl

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Gho the Girl

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Gho the Girl

Actually, I agree, they do matter, from time to time, and from person to person. Some don't put much importance in them, and some put a lot in there. This isn't bad or good, it's just the way things are.


If it doesn't matter then those people would be bisexual or perhaps asexual.
Or maybe they're experimenting.


Experimenting is a possibility, and I could understand that. However, this guy you are talking about clearly is not experimenting. He likes a woman. All it takes is one.
All it takes is one?

According to what or who? You? As we've already established, whatever you claim, you're WRONG so, yeah.


According to the definition. You can whine all you want about him not being a homosexual anymore, but he is clearly bisexual. I did not make him that way, he did.
Gho the Girl

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Gho the Girl

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This is the main factor in being straight or homosexual. It is that the genitals matter.
And the main factor in being a sexual being is that a battery of things matter sexually. Some want someone of a certain age, or size, or skin color, or they want their partner to spank them while they call their partner mommy. Different strokes for different folks, but saying that one factor matters doesn't negate the importance of the other factors. If only genitals mattered, we wouldn't have fetishes, or sexual tastes, roleplay, leather, BDSM, kink, etc.


All of the things you have mentioned are fetishes. Homosexuality is not a fetish.
Wow. No. Preferring skinny women to fat women doesn't mean you have a skinny fetish.
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Gho the Girl

And what an atrociously boring world that'd be.


The very fact you think homosexuality or heterosexuality is merely a preference shows your complete ignorance to the situation.*snip batshit rant*
No, it doesn't.
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Gho the Girl

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You are either unattracted to people of your gender or you are actually turned off by those people.
Or you're bi.

Even leaving that aside, I'm not attracted to men who are above the age of 50, although this will change with time. I'm not attracted to black people, some latinos are very attractive to me, I like the contrast of my Irish descended Ivory against their coffee color. I have a thing for red heads, although it isn't required. I also have a kink for glasses, and a fetish for n****e play.

Yes, I'm queer. But that's not all I am, not even just sexually.


For a bisexual person it is a preference, for a hetero or homosexual person it is a necessity.
No, it isn't.

See how easy this is? You say your piece, totally your opinion, unsupported or hindered by facts, and I say mine, with equal weight.

I could go all day like this. biggrin
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Of course, I would refer you to the scoreboard at the top of this. it seems you are losing.
Actually, I'm winning, since I'm enjoying every moment of this. I do hope you're having this much fun.


Sure, this is fun watching a dufus try to tell us that gay people like to be with the opposite gender. I have to admit to being a tad worried for you considering how monumentally stupid that sounds, and I am hoping that you are either a child or part of some outpatient program where people can help you because you seem very handicapped.
Kaosgirl
Princess Z-M
I like natural born males as in people who are born with an actual God-given male genitals. Not the kind that you can get from a lab coat.


Out of curiousity:
If you couldn't tell the difference, would you still care?
THISSSS.
You've been reading my mind so much today.
Princess Z-M
Still what you don't know can't hurt but it would probably be a deal breaker for me at this point in my life. No matter how "open-minded" I might be.
All I can say is that I'm not bothered in the least; I don't want to be with someone who is such a misogynist. You heard me right. If you didn't have a problem with woman, you wouldn't mind that a man ~used to~ have a c**t.
tererun3

Gho the Girl

tererun3

Gho the Girl

He just happens to be married to a woman. He was married to a woman before he realised he was gay. However, he loves his wife so much, and she loves him so much, that they decided to find ways to make that work.

You don't have the authority to tell him he's not gay.


No, he does not have the authority to make up his own definition when he clearly does not exist within it.
Being gay requires one to be attracted to other men, it does not require him to be in a gay relationship.


However, you just said he is attracted to a woman


Gho did not say anything about this person being attracted to a woman. At least, not in any of the above quoted text.

I can see how you might have got confused by what he did say, but unless you clipped something out, it wasn't what you said it was.

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This is the main factor in being straight or homosexual. It is that the genitals matter.


Perhaps, but not necessarily to the exclusion of all else. It's possible to overlook some things, if the rest fits the bill. It could be as simple as averting your eyes from the offending parts while focusing on the appealing ones. Or 'rationalizing' them away by some other means.

"My lesbian lover has a built-in d***o."
Sounds dumb, sure. But hey, if it works...
Princess Z-M
Kaosgirl


Meh. It's a hypothetical; presume massive improvements in the field that eliminate every sign that could be used to catch the difference. Fair enough, though I can't even pretend to understand that mindset.

which actually bugs the ******** out of me in itself


Well people do (to some extend) change so don't think too poorly of me for what I say today/night. I will most likely change this opinion in a few years (maybe).

I am one of the few "Straight" Black that don't bash the GLBT community and understand that if you aren't some super old money heir/heiress, you probably have some hardships and are being oppressed by society gay, colored, poor, or what have you.


So yeah don't allow it to bug you too much. I just don't like the medicine/doctoring field too much due to personal reasons.


"It's not you, it's me."

What bugs me isn't your opinion itself. It's my own inability to understand it. It's a failure that makes me think less of myself, not of you.
Kaosgirl
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This is the main factor in being straight or homosexual. It is that the genitals matter.


Perhaps, but not necessarily to the exclusion of all else. It's possible to overlook some things, if the rest fits the bill. It could be as simple as averting your eyes from the offending parts while focusing on the appealing ones. Or 'rationalizing' them away by some other means.

"My lesbian lover has a built-in d***o."
Sounds dumb, sure. But hey, if it works...
I completely disagree with sexuality being based solely on genitals. SEX is not simply just genitals. It's also sexual characteristics, hormones, etc.
Kaosgirl
Princess Z-M
Kaosgirl


Meh. It's a hypothetical; presume massive improvements in the field that eliminate every sign that could be used to catch the difference. Fair enough, though I can't even pretend to understand that mindset.

which actually bugs the ******** out of me in itself


Well people do (to some extend) change so don't think too poorly of me for what I say today/night. I will most likely change this opinion in a few years (maybe).

I am one of the few "Straight" Black that don't bash the GLBT community and understand that if you aren't some super old money heir/heiress, you probably have some hardships and are being oppressed by society gay, colored, poor, or what have you.


So yeah don't allow it to bug you too much. I just don't like the medicine/doctoring field too much due to personal reasons.


"It's not you, it's me."

What bugs me isn't your opinion itself. It's my own inability to understand it. It's a failure that makes me think less of myself, not of you.


hmm now I want to help you let's see it's nearly 2:30am but I'll give it a whirl and then off to bed...

For some people it's the fact that it's going against nature and therefore abnormal. For examples some Christian and other belief groups say doctors are playing "God" and therefore going against God will by switching people's gender. (Basically updated version of Black Magic)

I'm too tired to even get into the whole what they feel about trannies.

Plus the fact that the science itself has some quirks (depending on the study) as everyone has a different chemical reaction, the sex organs are said to not work as a natural one, ect.

In addition you have to understand our society sexual repression as a whole and how something like this would bug some people.

I mean if parents can't even take baths with their children nowadays without other folks freaking out why would the majority of people want to have sex with a Post-Op?

It's a pattern you just have to connect the dots.

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