[ Poll ] Your genitals do not matter?

do genitals matter to you in a romantic relationship?

I am straight and I will not date anyone within my gender		51.1%	[ 113 ]
I am gay and I will only date people of my gender		6.8%	[ 15 ]
I am bisexual and I do not care		32.6%	[ 72 ]
I do not understand the definition of straight and homosexual		9.5%	[ 21 ]

Total Votes: 221

[Syndactyly]

tererun3

Gho the Girl

Quote:

You just made the claim that you know a homosexual guy who has a female partner and likes it. Now to many people that would be a bisexual person, but to you the fact that he likes women does not matter and he can make up whatever definition he wants and pretend to be homosexual.

No, he's legitimately homosexual.

No, he is being fashionably gay. There are a lot of people today who want the title of gay but do not want to do the work. He is pretending to be gay for whatever reason. I would guess it is because being bisexual carries the stigma of being confused. The reality is that many people fall under the bisexual label, but have a preference of a specific gender. About the only time I could see someone disregarding certain sexual acts in labelling themselves is if they experimented to see if they could deal with a gender they did not think they were attracted to.

Is this "female" person male identified? I realize I jumped into a conversation that I don't know the details of, but I'm going to run with this anyway.

Not all gay men are EXCLUSIVELY attracted to p***s. I know a gay man, let's call him Charlie, in his 50's, he's always dated p***s, right? Well, he fell in love with a trans man. That trans man has been on testosterone for several years and has had chest surgery. The only thing "female" about him is his c**t. Charlie IS gay, he is attracted to a trans MAN, and that man he is attracted to is male inside and out, with the exception of what's between his legs.

It works for them, Charlie is a "top" and has "topped" many men and has shared his experiences his partner's a**s is really not different from any other man. It is easy enough for them both to ignore his c**t, and still enjoy each other sexually. Also, a relationship isn't ALL about sex, the other 95% of the relationship has nothing to do with getting naked, and in those situations his partner is perceived as and accepted as male even by the public, this is how much he "looks" like a man, despite being born female.

Sexuality does not ALONE depend on genitals, it depends on gender AND sex. An extremely simplified definition explains both:

http://www.med.monash.edu.au/gendermed/sexandgender.html

Sex is not characterized by one factor (genitals, chromosomes, OR hormones), it's a combination of all of those factors, and a trans man who has been on hormones has drastically changed. He is no longer "female" in the very strict sense, even though he isn't entirely "male" either. He is best defined as middlesex, and a gay man isn't suddenly bisexual for dating an intersex or middlesex person. Gender plays a HUGE role.

Also, a gay man CAN marry and love a woman, and still be attracted to men. Now, if he is having sex with her and is attracted to her, he's probably bisexual. But there are people who are married who don't have sex with each other.

I agree with you that if the gay man in question (the guy Gho is talking about) is in an intimate relationship with this WOMAN, who is FEMALE-identified and not transitioning to become a man, then yes, he would at least be bisexual.

[Kaosgirl]

tererun3

According to a certain gaia member in another thread I am wrong in the idea that the genitals of the people out there do not matter when you are deciding to get funky with them.

So, all you straight people, does it matter if the person you are with in a romantic relationship has the genitals of the opposite gender?

For the homosexuals, does it matter if the person you are romantic with has the same genitals as you?

I would ask the bisexuals, but it would seem logical the answer is no though you may have a preference.

Bisexuals have a tendency to prefer genitals that match the rest of the gender presentation . Pansexuals are the ones unlikely to care.

I posit that ideally the genitals wouldn't matter. But we're not an ideal species, nor even close to being one.

I do notice, in some of the later posts, a fair bit of wrangling about whether someone who's gay but doesn't mind p***y is really gay (and vice versa, the lesbian who doesn't mind c**k.) I find it very disturbing that the idea of being flexible about one particular preference instantly invalidates his identity.

But then, we're not yet an ideal species. So that short of silliness should be expected.

[Kaosgirl]

Also, biased poll is biased.

[Syndactyly]

People oversimplify concepts when it is convenient for them. In this case, oversimplifying sexuality and sex/gender itself.

[Geisterfahrer]

Kaosgirl

Also, biased poll is biased.

At least I'm not the only one who noticed.
I couldn't even vote.

[Backseat Bandit]

Geisterfahrer

Project 429

Geisterfahrer

Do you mean gender or sex?
I'm confused.

I think you mean sex, but you said gender...

It's really not that big of a slip-up. When they ask you for your gender on paperwork, they mean your sex. The words are synonymous on an official level. Mechanically the words mean the same thing.

No they don't.
I should know. I make those forms that people fill out and when I say gender I mean gender and when I say sex I mean sex.

Sex is biological. XX, XY, XYY, etc.
Gender is psychological. Male, Female, neuter, bigender, etc.

It's not the same thing. A person can be an XX male or an XY female.

Point is, we know words have different meanings depending on the context. Moving on?

[Bob Motley]

Anyone else know this thread is the OP's response to defeat-induced butthurt in another thread? ._.
Ppl like you make my FtM buddy cry at night. Rio says suck his dicklet.

[Kaosgirl]

Skittish Nature-Boy

Anyone else know this thread is the OP's response to defeat-induced butthurt in another thread? ._.
Ppl like you make my FtM buddy cry at night. Rio says suck his dicklet.

I suspected as much, but I somehow missed the prequel.

[Bob Motley]

Kaosgirl

Skittish Nature-Boy

Anyone else know this thread is the OP's response to defeat-induced butthurt in another thread? ._.
Ppl like you make my FtM buddy cry at night. Rio says suck his dicklet.

I suspected as much, but I somehow missed the prequel.

Go to the "Blackpeoplemeet.com"thread. Butthurt by woman on nonexistent period's in there. ^_^

[Syndactyly]

Skittish Nature-Boy

Anyone else know this thread is the OP's response to defeat-induced butthurt in another thread? ._.
Ppl like you make my FtM buddy cry at night. Rio says suck his dicklet.

Oh, I thought this was obvious, given the way tererun worded the OP.

As for that, no, I don't cry at night, and I'm FtM. If someone wants to turn me down because I have a c**t, that's their prerogative. I don't want to be with someone who thinks like that anyway.

[Bob Motley]

Syndactyly

Skittish Nature-Boy

Anyone else know this thread is the OP's response to defeat-induced butthurt in another thread? ._.
Ppl like you make my FtM buddy cry at night. Rio says suck his dicklet.

Oh, I thought this was obvious, given the way tererun worded the OP.

As for that, no, I don't cry at night, and I'm FtM. If someone wants to turn me down because I have a c**t, that's their prerogative. I don't want to be with someone who thinks like that anyway.

XD Rio-kun's not serious, L0L. And I know you're FtM so yah and I agree because I once considered myself full-blown MtF, ready to get on E and everything. But meh happened and blargh and pfft. And genitals to me don't mean s**t except how may I please you, love? Show me your hot spots and where I can put my tongue. Except I'm taken at the moment so this really doesn't apply to me. ^_^

[Princess Z-M]

I like natural born males as in people who are born with an actual God-given male genitals. Not the kind that you can get from a lab coat.

[Bob Motley]

Y...you can get extra penises when you buy a lab coat?!??! Like...you buy one and the cashier pulls one out from under the desk and is like "HERE YOU GO! ANOTHER p***s"?! eek
I NEEDS MAH MONEH!!! scream
HIRE BIBI, CLUB RISQUE.

[Kaosgirl]

Princess Z-M

I like natural born males as in people who are born with an actual God-given male genitals. Not the kind that you can get from a lab coat.

Out of curiousity:
If you couldn't tell the difference, would you still care?

[Geisterfahrer]

If I could get a working p***s from a guy with a lab coat, I totally would, and I don't even consider myself transgender.