You Are Stupid...Unless you're an Atheist

Are you a theist or not?

Yes. GODZORZ IS TEH REAL!	19.9%	[ 140 ]
No. I LOL AT JOOR INVISIBLE SKY MAN!	26.9%	[ 189 ]
I'm an agnostic. I CAN'T PROVE NOTHIN'!	21.1%	[ 148 ]
GIMME JOOR GOLDZ!	32.1%	[ 225 ]
Total Votes:			[ 702 ]

[SilverZephyr]

It is unfortunate that some people feel the need to jump down other people's throats. However, that will be true of all people. It's not just athiests that insult people, and it's not just athiests that insult people because of religion. Religious people insult each other too, and religious people insult athiests.
HOWEVER.
Not all athiests insult religious people. Not all religious people insult religious people. Not all religous people insult athiests. To say so would be a generalization. If it is in someone's nature to insult others, then it is in someone's nature to insult others. It has less to do with the grounds they are insulting people on and more with the people doing the insulting themselves.

But as for athiests insulting religious people's intelligence, that is just uncalled for. I myself am athiest/agnostic/what have you, but I respect religion in general. Do I have a beef with many of the people who practice it if I have a problem with the WAY in which they practice it? Yes. Do I think that the concept of faith is silly? Yes. But this has less to do with the religion itself and more to do with me. I, as a person, am just not someone who can believe in faith. It just doesn't suit me. I need either evidence or at least a compelling argument to be convinced of something. Does that mean I expect all people to think of things the same way I do? No.

If people can believe in faith, more power to them. It's not something I can do myself, but I'm not going to insult those that do. Some people who, like me, don't subscribe to faith feel that anyone who does is an idiot and that is unfortunate, but it's just the way things are.

[kittiepower]

true or life , we will never know

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[ Chocoholics_Anonymous ]

Albert Einstien was Jewish.
George Washington was Christian Diest.
Leonardo Di Vinci was Christian.

And?
Appeal to authority much!

[IKiyU]

''Meow well I'm searching for my own answers at the moment.''

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glitterxfit

i feel the same way about christians.
i'm often called stupid because i don't believe in god.
and they don't even put up a good arguement
it's usually just "YOU'RE GONNA BURN IN HELL!! =o!!! HAHA LOSER SEE YOU FROM HEAVEN!"

What's funny is no one is putting up a decent arguement. No one.

[Ihavenoarmz]

[ Chocoholics_Anonymous ]

Albert Einstien was Jewish.

And had a lower IQ than me, I think.

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George Washington was Christian.

Probably a deist, actually. Possibly a freemason.
He certainly was very charismatic, but I'm not sure he was that smart.

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Leonardo Di Vinci was Christian.

Given that atheism didn't really appear in "modern" Europe until the 17th or 18th century, that makes sense. How do we know that he believed in the Bible, exactly? Plus, he was apparently pretty gay, which would make him a pretty bad Christian, in his time.

[Kimihiro_Watanuki]

glitterxfit

Kimihiro_Watanuki

glitterxfit

i feel the same way about christians.
i'm often called stupid because i don't believe in god.
and they don't even put up a good arguement
it's usually just "YOU'RE GONNA BURN IN HELL!! =o!!! HAHA LOSER SEE YOU FROM HEAVEN!"

You COMPLETELY miss the point.

well if i missed the point, why didn't you explain it to me?
you know, instead of just pointing out that i missed it.
that is not helping me at all. (:

I don't need to explain it. It'll way up there in plain English.

And to RollerDisco, I'm sorry I got the name wrong. I really thought it was Charles. It's actually a good suggestion that I do read the book, but then again, I have a eprsonal issue about not taking everythign with a grain of salt. I'm afraid if I read the book, I might convert, simply becasue it makes sense at the time, without really applying it to anything else.

So, in that case, articles are what I have read on it. I might go get it from my local library. I just don't want it to screw with me head. Cuz, ya know, I need it right now.

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RollerDisco

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[ Chocoholics_Anonymous ]

Albert Einstien was Jewish.
George Washington was Christian Diest.
Leonardo Di Vinci was Christian.

And?
Appeal to authority much!

Well, "And?" was the correct question; it's not an Appeal to Authority though. It's a demonstration of what happens to be true. Appeal to Authority requires a statement such as:

[ Chocoholics_Anonymous ]

Albert Einstien was Jewish.
George Washington was Christian Diest.
Leonardo Di Vinci was Christian.

That means that every smart person / revolutionary / VIP in history must have a religion.

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MyxineDamion

[ Chocoholics_Anonymous ]

Albert Einstien was Jewish.

And had a lower IQ than me, I think.

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George Washington was Christian.

Probably a deist, actually. Possibly a freemason.
He certainly was very charismatic, but I'm not sure he was that smart.

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Leonardo Di Vinci was Christian.

Given that atheism didn't really appear in "modern" Europe until the 17th or 18th century, that makes sense. How do we know that he believed in the Bible, exactly?

...And I just said. This does not back up the argument for God by any means.
And there's a whole chapter in the book on Einstien's religion.
'A deeply religious non-beliver'

'I don't try to imagine a personal God; it suffices to stand in awe at the structure of the world, insofar as it allows our inadequate senses to appreciate it'

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MyxineDamion

[ Chocoholics_Anonymous ]

Albert Einstien was Jewish.

And had a lower IQ than me, I think.

What good is an IQ if you do nothing with it? Einstein, and most of the world's inventors and revolutionaries, weren't genii. Most of the world's genii aren't even really recorded ( in regards to since the IQ test was invented ) amongst the masses as doing anything amazing in particular.

Average Joe and his willingness to do something wins.

That, and I don't want to play "brain wars" on Gaia. Your IQ means nothing more often than not.

[[~AJ~]]

Kimihiro_Watanuki

So, I've been browsing the web and found videos, article, etc. on Charles Dawkins' book "The God Delusion" Frankly, my point here is that it doesn't just offend me, it really pisses me off. Charles Dawkins deliberately puts down any deity based faith, and then uses what is seemingly out going, controversial literature, lectures, and speech to back it up with. And the sad thing is, I've seen his books become a sort a sort of "Atheist's Bible".

Allow me to draw one very important point form his book. Very early on, he calls faith and religion delusions. He says anyone who has delusions, is classified mentally ill. He later on makes the connection. All religious people are mentally ill. God, Allah, Vishnu, and Zeus are no more provable than a orbiting tea cup, or a unicorn.

Now, about the Atheist's Bible part. I frequently use and online chat messenger hybrid called PalTalk. It has voice and video capability, and a wide variety of rooms to search for. Of course, the most popular rooms are the religious ones. I try to stop by an atheist room when I get the chance to, just to listen in. (I'm not exactly Christian. I'm sort of a Deist, with Christian influence thrown in.) When I voice my opinion, it is immediately shot down. And not even in a decent manner. I get met with personal insults, sarcasm, bigotry, and vulgarity. It's like a pack of wolves jumping on a dead rabbit. They immediately regard anything as I say as the wrong opinion. And the worst part is they have a seething hatred for all Christians. Not just the fire and brimstone kind. They hate EVERY SINGLE ONE, and then try to use nothing but the Old Testament and history to back up their claims.

So...to discuss.

1. Does being an atheist make you smarter than anyone else?
2. Are deities and religion nothing but delusions and forms of crowd control?
3. Where did I mess up? Logical errors, etc.
4. Is faith just a crutch?
5. Are you ever skeptical that they might ever be evidence (scientific proof) of a deity?

You can't judge a group by its loudest members... and that goes for both sides of the arguement.

I'm atheist but i'm nothing like that at all. I concede that there is no way to prove either whether god exists or not. That doesn't make me agnostic though. I choose to believe based on faith that there is no god. Much like religious people believe based on faith that there is.

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RollerDisco

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[ Chocoholics_Anonymous ]

Albert Einstien was Jewish.
George Washington was Christian Diest.
Leonardo Di Vinci was Christian.

And?
Appeal to authority much!

Well, "And?" was the correct question; it's not an Appeal to Authority though. It's a demonstration of what happens to be true. Appeal to Authority requires a statement such as:

[ Chocoholics_Anonymous ]

Albert Einstien was Jewish.
George Washington was Christian Diest.
Leonardo Di Vinci was Christian.

That means that every smart person / revolutionary / VIP in history must have a religion.

Well it appeard to be the way in which you where useing those persons.

[Ihavenoarmz]

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RollerDisco

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[ Chocoholics_Anonymous ]

Albert Einstien was Jewish.
George Washington was Christian Diest.
Leonardo Di Vinci was Christian.

And?
Appeal to authority much!

Well, "And?" was the correct question; it's not an Appeal to Authority though. It's a demonstration of what happens to be true. Appeal to Authority requires a statement such as:

[ Chocoholics_Anonymous ]

Albert Einstien was Jewish.
George Washington was Christian Diest.
Leonardo Di Vinci was Christian.

That means that every smart person / revolutionary / VIP in history must have a religion.

I would say the assumption was implied, or else posting those facts serves no exact purpose.

I mean, 3 people out of... who knows how many... is not very good proof.

[[.i_like_pi.]]

Why do I feel this way
Why do I feel like I'm lying

Ok, well I am a self-proclaimed Atheist.

My parents are not, but I am.

Now, I don't think being Atheist makes you smarter than anyone else, it's just a different way of thinking.

Now, the reason they were insulting you is very obvious: They are Atheist. They are a different religion-or non religion-so they don't actually agree with what you say. And they feel they have to defend this. I mean, think of very religious Catholics. They will say that Catholicism is the best religion.

And the crusades? Yes, those crusades in Europe. RELIGIOUS!! The two religions didn't mix, so they fought. That's just what religious people do. Or non religious.

Non-open-minded people...

So yes, I don't believe in a deity, or anything like that.

Why do I act this way
Why do I act like I'm dying

[Kimihiro_Watanuki]

RollerDisco

MyxineDamion

[ Chocoholics_Anonymous ]

Albert Einstien was Jewish.

And had a lower IQ than me, I think.

Quote:

George Washington was Christian.

Probably a deist, actually. Possibly a freemason.
He certainly was very charismatic, but I'm not sure he was that smart.

Quote:

Leonardo Di Vinci was Christian.

Given that atheism didn't really appear in "modern" Europe until the 17th or 18th century, that makes sense. How do we know that he believed in the Bible, exactly?

...And I just said. This does not back up the argument for God by any means.
And there's a whole chapter in the book on Einstien's religion.
'A deeply religious non-beliver'

'I don't try to imagine a personal God; it suffices to stand in awe at the structure of the world, insofar as it allows our inadequate senses to appreciate it'

So basically, the quote is saying "God inhibits intelligence and understanding. A personal God, means a personal world, and a personal world, is false."

To sum it all up "God is synonymous with stupidity."