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By balls I meant more domineering or assertive then they are. I talked to someone whose thinks men in his generation (mid-forties) are too submissive ( to him: a feminine characteristic) to the women they have personal (romantic) relationships with. He's a nurse and he hears the women he works with (the single ones) talk about how they wish their men were more domineering or assertive then they are. (I do not consider this an accurate sample of the female population).

He thinks that the Feminist movement was where it started. Because from that women "evolved" and became more assertive and controlling. When men became submissive and "devolved" to the new attitude. He also thinks that the media promoted this with sic-coms where the dad plays the idiot and mom runs the family.

So I wanted to ask the ED what they thought of this. I know it's meant for older people, but I figured there might be some interesting takes on this.
Of course both genders are allowed to post here, but I'm more interested on the opinions of women.

Discuss:
Is submission a feminine attribute?
Do women want more domineering or assertive men?
How did the Feminist Movement change gender roles in America? The world?
Society has grown away from strong male figures and submissive females as the norm.

We are balancing out, the way I see it.
I wish WOMEN had more "balls"!
Requiem of the Exodus
Is submission a feminine attribute?

Not inherently, no. In many cases it is the smart thing to do. Women just aren't faulted for doing it nearly as much as men are.
Requiem of the Exodus
Do women want more domineering or assertive men?

I think it's more an attraction to confidence, which I think both sexes find attractive. Personally, I like a guy who will treat me as an equal and take what I say into serious account, like I would for him.
Requiem of the Exodus
How did the Feminist Movement change gender roles in America? The world?

Mostly more gender equality in the workplace. Some negatives is that a lot of feminist end up demonizing femininity in their pursuit of the so called "superior" masculine qualities. Homemakers and those in stereotypically feminine occupations are view as stupid and weak, even when it is men doing these jobs.
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Skittish Nature-Boy
I wish WOMEN had more "balls"!


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I do have to admit I find boys lacking in the domination area. They are very timid now. It's a shame, primarily because that timidity allows them to be controlled and used.
Death and Misery
I do have to admit I find boys lacking in the domination area. They are very timid now. It's a shame, primarily because that timidity allows them to be controlled and used.

Do you think it's because of the Feminist movement, or something else? A combination there of?
No, two are enough. I would think that if they had more balls, tucking would be a problem. Also, riding a horse would be highly uncomfortable.
It depends which man u r talking about....I can't rly classify them in a general sense.
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Katie Wildheart
It depends which man u r talking about....I can't rly classify them in a general sense.


The men with the p***s. And testicles.
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Actually a less domineering/assertive guy is probably less likely to shout nasty dehumanizing and overlty nasty sexual things to me while I'm on my way to shop, work, walk the kids or pets or anywhere else. neutral
EmotionallyInconsistent
Actually a less domineering/assertive guy is probably less likely to shout nasty dehumanizing and overlty nasty sexual things to me while I'm on my way to shop, work, walk the kids or pets or anywhere else. neutral


Domineering and Assertive are different things. A domineering man is more likely to do those things then an assertive one. Also I'm talking in a deep personal or romantic level, not casually.
EmotionallyInconsistent
Actually a less domineering/assertive guy is probably less likely to shout nasty dehumanizing and overlty nasty sexual things to me while I'm on my way to shop, work, walk the kids or pets or anywhere else. neutral
I doubt this. The less self-confidence you have the more likely you at to try and follow stereotypical approaches to social integration. I'm willing to bet the nicest and smartest men tend to be quieter, especially those with a good sense of self.
Ive seen a mix of both so to say all men need more balls is a no. I don't think a guy should roll over and play dead, but at the same time I don't think it should be taken to the extreme of controlling.

Case in point, consider a friend of my husbands. He is currently getting divorced and is even going to so far as to harm his new relationship by demanding complete control and submission. Even going so far as placing double standards where as he can do no wrong and the female is always wrong. Even most of his guy friends have openly stated that he shouldn't be allowed to be in a relationship. Period. One reason being because he pushes it almost to a point of abuse.

But in relation to my husband and myself, we treat our relationship as a partnership. There are areas where he is definitely the man of the household, but he doesn't take it so far as to not consider my feelings or treat me subservient, rather I have just as much say in our home as he does. We each strive to make up for what the other may lack and better each other and our relationship in that way. It's balance instead of control.
Veolin
Ive seen a mix of both so to say all men need more balls is a no. I don't think a guy should roll over and play dead, but at the same time I don't think it should be taken to the extreme of controlling.

Case in point, consider a friend of my husbands. He is currently getting divorced and is even going to so far as to harm his new relationship by demanding complete control and submission. Even going so far as placing double standards where as he can do no wrong and the female is always wrong. Even most of his guy friends have openly stated that he shouldn't be allowed to be in a relationship. Period. One reason being because he pushes it almost to a point of abuse.

But in relation to my husband and myself, we treat our relationship as a partnership. There are areas where he is definitely the man of the household, but he doesn't take it so far as to not consider my feelings or treat me subservient, rather I have just as much say in our home as he does. We each strive to make up for what the other may lack and better each other and our relationship in that way. It's balance instead of control.


What about his level of submission to you? Is that also in a healthy balance?

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