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Bullies need their a** kicked. But the pussified generation can't handle basic issues, so they want still more big brother. I wonder how old many are before they stop being breast fed.


I agree that bullies need their asses kicked, but for a lot of kids, it's not an option. Not out of fear of being punished, but maybe the bully is a lot bigger and strong than them, or the bullies gang up on their victim. It's even worse if the victim is disabled somehow. What's the victim supposed to do then?
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My dad had my back. He taught me how to fight when I was really young, like 7 or 8 after I lost to some older kids. He also gave the HS principal a serious talk about what happened above because the school was quite aware that and of why I was being picked on.

BTW, my school policy would suspend both/all kids in a fight even if some of them did nothing at all besides get beat on. What message does that send? Hehe, my BF says the message is "make it worth it."


LOL, yeah. I totally would've fought back, except the girls who picked on me all ganged up in groups. And there was one chick who was like, 200 pounds in middle school so again, fighting her wasn't an option.

Maybe part of it is a mentality that if a kid is getting picked on, they must've done something to deserve it.
You can still fight a group or a bigger person, you're just more likely to lose (unless you're Jackie Chan.) Sorry it happened to you. Were any measures ever taken against the girls who attacked you?

It's kind of a herd mentality, or would hive be more appropriate?
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You can still fight a group or a bigger person, you're just more likely to lose (unless you're Jackie Chan.) Sorry it happened to you. Were any measures ever taken against the girls who attacked you?

It's kind of a herd mentality, or would hive be more appropriate?


Most of the classes I got picked on in, I didn't have a lot of friends to help gang up. At one point without telling me, my friend decided to confront the fat chick and ask her to stop picking on me. Said fat chick smashed my friends head on the locker and the coach came in and took them both away. Fat chick didn't receive any punishment, she was back the next day and the first thing she did when she saw me was pick on me. It was the only time things got physical so I expected something would actually be done, but alas, it wasn't.

I think "herd" would be more appropriate. "Hive" sort of implies they're all blindly following one girl, but really, the girls who picked on me all enjoyed it. There was one girl who hung out with them who never picked on me and clearly disapproved of what they were doing, but never did anything outside of a misguided but well-intentioned attempt to get me to make myself less of a target by wearing makeup.
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Bullying is bad, and bullies should feel bad.

People shouldn't let words get to them easily. Nevermind, I don't feel like dealing with personal bias arguments from a specific person.
People shouldn't desensitise people from bullying as that will make them thin skinned and easily emotionally hurt. Nevermind, I don't feel like dealing with personal bias arguments from a specific person.
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When they lay hand on another kid, they damn well deserve to be expelled/charged. Words? You gotta be kidding me.


Joe, the two are linked. And often.


Words mean nothing. Physical assault? That's a different world altogether.


Words aren't nothing.

Psychological abuse is a real thing and can be even more damaging than physical violence, especially in the case of bullying because it can become a daily part of that child's life.


Joe's issue is that he is running scared of the notion that individuals have a responsibility to society above themselves at any point. If words are recognised to cause harm it removes the notion that anyone should be able to say whatever they want. If people have a serious affect on the live of others and so an obligation to care for others, the notion that the individual is the only person substantially responsible for their circumstances is themselves has the potential to collapse(never mind that bullying and getting other things as easily separated, so this needn't happen), resulting in a situation where people might get something without working for directly themselves. It might be that, DUN DUN DUN, socialistic ideas gain greater acceptance within culture.
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So OP have you seen the new south park episode. Good timing.

Aaaaaanyway

Because the people who got bullied themselves are butthurt about it and want to make a show of caring when it happens to someone else.
Too much focus is being given to stopping people from "bullying" others, and too little focus is being given as to why might people "bully" in the first place.
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Too much focus is being given to stopping people from "bullying" others, and too little focus is being given as to why might people "bully" in the first place.


Most bullying is from kids who want a power trip. Where do we go from there?
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Too much focus is being given to stopping people from "bullying" others, and too little focus is being given as to why might people "bully" in the first place.


Most bullying is from kids who want a power trip. Where do we go from there?


How do we know it's all about power trips? I've watched bullying develop in children, kids who got along alright at first and then something happened that we didn't address because nobody was bullying yet...and then suddenly when they take the only options they see available, it's become bullying and they get in trouble for it. I think if more adults addressed problems when they first occur, give kids healthy options to get what they want while also being an upstanding member of their community, and support both "victims" and 'bullies," we'd see a decline in bullying behaviors, especially those taken to extremes.
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More communication and better media coverage so the suicides over bullying are way more well-known. That and maybe the taboo around suicide has decreased enough that news stations are willing to report on it.
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Back when I was in grade school, bullying was ignored and was seen as "Oh he/she is just playing", my personal favorite, "they're only doing that because they like you." And of course, "Ignore it, they'll stop." But it never stops. Self-esteem plummets, suicides happen, people bring knives and guns to school and that victim is seen as the problem. Not to mention, teachers/counselors, etc, tend to take the other person's side. Trying to stick up for myself or for my friends ended up getting me suspended or after-school detention.

I was tortured throughout my school years. I loathed having to go to school. Being beat up on, spit on, trash thrown at, tripped, pushed down the stairs, and shoved against lockers wasn't exactly my idea of a school life. I had to go through psychiatric treatment because it got to the point I wanted to commit suicide, let alone, hurt my "fellow schoolmates" .

Just in the more recent years, First Lady Michelle Obama, Lady Gaga, Justin Bieber, Megan Fox and whomever else in the celebrity world is trying to put a stop to that. It's interesting and disbelieving that someone like Megan Fox was bullied but in any case...

Apparently, people are now caring because bullying has gotten much worst and has spread throughout social internet webpages. Cyber bullying didn't just start over night. It's been happening for years. It is very upsetting that nobody did anything back in the day, or thought nothing of it. Now all of a sudden, it's "a criminal offense" to bully other people?

Thinking more about it, it pisses me off that nobody gave a damn then. What makes now so much more of a big deal?


i seriously could not agree more with you!

i was a very happy child until the fourth grade when all my peers began to go out of their way to let me know how ugly and fat and wrong i was.

i recently committed myself to a mental hospital for severe depression and started an out-patient program. i believe i do have a chemical imbalance causing my depression, BUT i also vehemently blame my peers of middle and high school for my depression and social anxiety problems.

i will never be the person i could have been, because of bullying.

people tell me to let it go but i literally can NOT. My peers DESTROYED my self confidence and self image.

even with anti depressants and intense counseling for the rest of my life, i repeat i will never be who i could have been.

i will never be able to sing or dance in front of people, i will never feel attractive or confident of my appearance.

bullying ruined my life.

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as for your question of why they are just starting to care: i think it's a combination of many things like:

~i think it's always been bad, but i think it really is getting worse.

~ my mom and grandma tell me that they used to not talk about incest and child sexual abuse very much when they were growing up, even tho it was happening then just as much as it does now. So i think it's similar to that. A problem literally needs to fester, become infected and boil over before society finally decides to do something about it.

Just like how a person has to get their face torn off by a gorilla before they pass a law making them illegal to own as pets. i guess the suicide rates are finally getting high enough for us to take notice.
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Eh, people want to address silly issues instead of looking at the bigger picture.

Perhaps insecurity should be weeded out as well as bullying, that would solve everything.


What I always noticed in high school though was that the people who were most affected bullies were pretty bad bullies or just really mean people themselves.

They were constantly rude, demeaning, trying to elevate themselves to such an "amazing" or godlike status where they knew all and were great and amazing, and they got angry all the time.


The issue is, while people will mess with you through your life, you've got to learn not to care.

It's only become more of an issue becuase we like to tell people being insecure is okay; it's not.


You have no reason to be insecure, it often leads to arrogance or stupidity anyways.

The best way is to not care, realize it doesn't effect you- when people resort to physical violence, point it out- what I always did was position myself around teachers, so when physical violence did occur they'd at least know I wasn't the one starting it. It's a good route to go. I always tough and could take a punch to the face no problem, but for other people I'd recommend staying within sights of teachers, especially when you're around your supposed bullies, perhaps shouting loudly to get their attention when it happens, or right before etc.


For whatever reason, people don't support cameras in all public places; it's like, oh, I'm being watched by people in public and they could take out a phone and record me at any moment, but you'd rather for whatever reason not be able to prove dire and crucial things and go ahead and have evidence catchers 24/7.

Therefore, you're going to have to learn to deal with practical applications of proving things, often times the hard way.
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Why is bullying an issue today?

Because people have lost their balls.

I was picked on in school. Pretty harsh, too.

I support the idea of support groups and s**t for these victims. However, acting like bullying is any more of a problem today, than it was 20 years ago, is just silly. The only things that have changed is the access to the internet. People can make a website that nobody outside of the "know" will ever see, bashing someone.

Really, it's just that people have become too sensitive to handle a problem. "Someone doesn't like me? gonk "

Grow up, and move on. And laugh in 10 years, when their lives prove to get them no further than yours has.

The greatest thrill in dealing with a bully, is having said bully wait your table, in 5 years. From bullying you, to kissing your a** for a tip. Justice be a poet.


But at the same time, letting bullying continue teaches bullies that their behavior is okay. Should kids really be taught that verbal harassment is okay?


Certainly not. All I'm saying, is that people are making a much bigger deal out of it, than it really is.

There's a difference between a little hazing once in a while, and actual bullying. I was bullied. I couldn't walk 3 steps into the cafeteria without someone bumping into me (intentionally) and saying "Watch where you're going, f*****t!". Which is funny, since I'm not remotely gay.

Also, if all else fails...boxing lessons. The surest way to stop hurtful words from coming out of someone's mouth, is to shove a fist into it. Bullies specifically target the weak. So become the strong. Honestly, even if you lose the fight, they'll learn to think twice.

I took a swing at one person in my school. One. And I completely missed. But the fact that he felt the wind of the swing, really rocked his world. He never once messed with me again. Just because I swung.

Bullies hate assertive people. They specifically target the passive.
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Yes, because growing up to be mollycoddled little pussies works so very ******** well. "I didn't get the job? Woe is me!!'
"Someone called me fat? Ima gonna kill myself."
Bullshit. You learn respect as part of growing up. You also learn that there are people that deserve no ******** respect and are a waste of human flesh.
You go ahead an hug everyone, including the crack heads and meth whores. I'll wait for them to keel over.



actually, in my case, bullying is what made me the p***y i am today, whereas if i HADN'T been bullied, i would be more mentally and emotionally sound and stable, and better able to deal with conflicts and bullies.

if i hadn't been bullied it wouldn't affect me so much when people give me dirty looks or make fun of me today, i would be able to brush it off because my self esteem would be in tact and i wouldn't need the approval of others to make up for all the disapproval of others over the years.


If i hadn't been bullied, not getting the job wouldn't bother me so much, i wouldn't have the "woe is me" attitude because as i said before, i wouldn't be coming from a place where my self esteem and self image are destroyed.

but as it is, everything today affects me 10x more than it should BECAUSE i was bullied. it didn't toughen me up, it broke me the ******** down.
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Bullying has become a hot topic because more parents today want society to raise their kids. But they don't stop there. They want society to coddle their kids. They are therefore, raising a generation of pussies who cannot deal with the trials of the real world. This war on bullying is a war to make the world more pussified then it already is. Parents don't want their kids to ever deal with the real world.

At least, that's the way I see it

Ahhh... if only the number of times you used the word 'p***y' equated to how good your argument is...

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