When is it right to hit a woman?

[Kaosgirl]

Audrey Eternal

How many of you have heard the story of what happened between Jayde Nicole and Joe Francis? Well here's the short verson of what happened, Joe Francis was hitting on a friend of both Jenner (her boyfriend) and Nicole. When Francis became very persistent, Jayde Nicole threw her drink on Francis. He then pulled Jaydes hair, punched her in the face, threw her to the ground, and then started kicking her (and yes this is true, there is security footage).

So my questions to you are...

1. Did Fancis have right to do that?

It's the same idea as responding to a slap in the face by pulling a gun. I don't think it's appropriate regardless of the genders involved - it's very much an excessive escalation of the incident.

Audrey Eternal

2. When is it acceptable to hit a woman?

In self defense, or mutually consensual 'rough play' situations.

It may also be an appropriate response in situations of persistent inappropriate behavior on her part, after more reasonable measures have been tried and exhausted. But that's not as clear a case - an escalation of some kind is called for (due to the failure of using other means to resolve the situation), but how far one can escalate or how much patience one should have with the 'inappropriate behavior' before escalating is debatable.

(Also, what counts as 'inappropriate behavior' isn't always clear either.)

Audrey Eternal

In my opinion, he did not have the right to do that to her. She poored a drink on him, he has the right to poor a drink on her (plus it would be more classy then what he did), nothing more. Not because she is a girl, but because she is a human being. What she did was wrong, but all she did was poor a drink on him and he reacted by pulling her hair, throwing her on the ground, and kicking her. There were plenty of better ways he could have haddled the situation.

I'm not sure she was entirely wrong in dumping the drink on him - that was an escalation as well, but from what you've told me he wasn't taking the clues that she wasn't interested. His behavior before that was bordering on harassment, which IMO justified her taking slightly more extreme measures.

(Noting that I'm speaking in terms of moral and ethical justification, not practical wisdom. Practical wisdom would have raised the question of whether she could handle the situation if he retaliated.)

[Kaiju Returns]

Wocki-chan

Whenever a b***h hits you trying to hurt you. Equal rights, eh? Equal assbeating. You want to come up to someone like a man, get taken down like a man unless you're that ******** beastly.

Damn straight. Equal rights, equal fights! Anyone who says women can't get hit is just as sexist as someone who thinks women should spend all day in the kitchen.

[I Have Satan In My Heart]

There is no difference between hitting a man and a woman. To suggest otherwise is discrimination.

[Kaosgirl]

Sweetpea The Tigress

It looks like I'm the only sexist here sweatdrop - the only time a man should hit a woman is when there's a serious threat of harm. If she slaps a guy, he should back off and call the cops. If she has a razor between her fingers to slap him with, then he can deck her. Let's be for real- the average woman doesn't have the physical strength to kill the average man unless she has a weapon or training.

Or he sits like a lump and just takes it.

[xion-tono]

Ooh ooh, fun bit to add to the story....

She has the word "respect" tattooed right above her vag.

Guess flashing your vag at the likes of Joe Francis didn't get you much respect did it dear?

[xion-tono]

Sweetpea The Tigress

It looks like I'm the only sexist here sweatdrop - the only time a man should hit a woman is when there's a serious threat of harm. If she slaps a guy, he should back off and call the cops. If she has a razor between her fingers to slap him with, then he can deck her. Let's be for real- the average woman doesn't have the physical strength to kill the average man unless she has a weapon or training. The average man has the strength to kill the average woman. Having a drink poured on one's head? Well, call the cops, charge her with battery, and get her to do your dry cleaning. I hope that a*****e ended up in his face in the dirt with a cop's boot on the back of his neck.
Why? Because i just like girls better, that's why! scream

sauce plz.

[I Have Satan In My Heart]

Psych0_C00kiis

Ninth Pariah

Is this where I make a Chris Brown joke? 'Cause bitches need to shut it when a man's driving.

niqqa tht aint funny

I lol'd.

[Kaosgirl]

xion-tono

Ooh ooh, fun bit to add to the story....

She has the word "respect" tattooed right above her vag.

Guess flashing your vag at the likes of Joe Francis didn't get you much respect did it dear?

I smell fish.

[Kaiju Returns]

xion-tono

Sweetpea The Tigress

It looks like I'm the only sexist here sweatdrop - the only time a man should hit a woman is when there's a serious threat of harm. If she slaps a guy, he should back off and call the cops. If she has a razor between her fingers to slap him with, then he can deck her. Let's be for real- the average woman doesn't have the physical strength to kill the average man unless she has a weapon or training. The average man has the strength to kill the average woman. Having a drink poured on one's head? Well, call the cops, charge her with battery, and get her to do your dry cleaning. I hope that a*****e ended up in his face in the dirt with a cop's boot on the back of his neck.
Why? Because i just like girls better, that's why! scream

sauce plz.

I dunno about flat out killing, but the average women IS a lot weaker than the average man in terms of upper body strength. You should know, that's why they give you females much lower PT standards on pushups.

Now that's not to say their aren't women who can rip you in half with one arm (case in point), but remember, we're talking averages here, not exceptions.

[Audrey Eternal]

Kaiju Returns

Wocki-chan

Whenever a b***h hits you trying to hurt you. Equal rights, eh? Equal assbeating. You want to come up to someone like a man, get taken down like a man unless you're that ******** beastly.

Damn straight. Equal rights, equal fights! Anyone who says women can't get hit is just as sexist as someone who thinks women should spend all day in the kitchen.

I think in all fairess a little sexism is a acceptable thing. When it comes to physical strengh, for the most part, men and women are not evenly matched. A woman puching you may sting a bit, but if you punch her you may brake her jaw (and guess who will be paying the medical bills). Not to mention women want equal right so it would NOT be acceptable for men to treat them that way (equal rights by law).

[monika20]

1. Certainly not, that's like throwing a cinder block at someone for untying your shoe.

2. Self-defense or in the defense of someone else. Other than that, violence just isn't ever justified :/

[Wocki-chan]

Kaiju Returns

Wocki-chan

Whenever a b***h hits you trying to hurt you. Equal rights, eh? Equal assbeating. You want to come up to someone like a man, get taken down like a man unless you're that ******** beastly.

Damn straight. Equal rights, equal fights! Anyone who says women can't get hit is just as sexist as someone who thinks women should spend all day in the kitchen.

********. YEAH.

[Kaiju Returns]

Audrey Eternal

Kaiju Returns

Wocki-chan

Whenever a b***h hits you trying to hurt you. Equal rights, eh? Equal assbeating. You want to come up to someone like a man, get taken down like a man unless you're that ******** beastly.

Damn straight. Equal rights, equal fights! Anyone who says women can't get hit is just as sexist as someone who thinks women should spend all day in the kitchen.

I think in all fairess a little sexism is a acceptable thing. When it comes to physical strengh, for the most part, men and women are not evenly matched. A woman puching you may sting a bit, but if you punch her you may brake her jaw (and guess who will be paying the medical bills). Not to mention women want equal right so it would NOT be acceptable for men to treat them that way (equal rights by law).

So what? Women on average are better public speakers, that doesn't mean we should ban female lawyers from arguing cases against male ones, right?

Look, if the woman's too weak to last in a given fight, she should do what scrawny nerds do: avoid them like the plague. Sizing up the threat of a situation is second nature to guys, and it can be for women, too, if they stop hiding behind their dainty sexist social structure and start flexing their muscles a bit.

[fishyseaz V2]

Almost never, because in places where any types of physical punishments is illegal (no matter how mild), physical abuse only occurs very rarely.