What's Wrong With Obama's Health Care Plan?

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Tobias_London

So what exactly is wrong with this?

It isn't the Weiner plan.

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Tobias_London

So what exactly is wrong with this?

It isn't the Weiner plan.

Is that made by Oscar Meyer?

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Tobias_London

So what exactly is wrong with this?

It isn't the Weiner plan.

Is that made by Oscar Meyer?

Not exactly.

EDIT: More concise link.

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Tobias_London

More Security and Stability
If You Have Health Insurance, the Obama Plan:

* Ends discrimination against people with pre-existing conditions.

* Limits premium discrimination based on gender and age.

* Prevents insurance companies from dropping coverage when people are sick and need it most.

* Caps out-of-pocket expenses so people don’t go broke when they get sick.

* Eliminates extra charges for preventive care like mammograms, flu shots and diabetes tests to improve health and save money.

* Protects Medicare for seniors.

* Eliminates the “donut-hole” gap in coverage for prescription drugs.


Quality, Affordable Choices
If You Don’t Have Insurance, the Obama Plan:

* Creates a new insurance marketplace — the Exchange — that allows people without insurance and small businesses to compare plans and buy insurance at competitive prices.

* Provides new tax credits to help people buy insurance.

* Provides small businesses tax credits and affordable options for covering employees.

* Offers a public health insurance option to provide the uninsured and those who can’t find affordable coverage with a real choice.

* Immediately offers new, low-cost coverage through a national “high risk” pool to protect people with preexisting conditions from financial ruin until the new Exchange is created.



Reins in the Cost of Health Care
For All Americans, the Obama Plan:

* Won’t add a dime to the deficit and is paid for upfront.

* Requires additional cuts if savings are not realized.

* Implements a number of delivery system reforms that begin to rein in health care costs and align incentives for hospitals, physicians, and others to improve quality.

* Creates an independent commission of doctors and medical experts to identify waste, fraud and abuse in the health care system.

* Orders immediate medical malpractice reform projects that could help doctors focus on putting their patients first, not on practicing defensive medicine.

* Requires large employers to cover their employees and individuals who can afford it to buy insurance so everyone shares in the responsibility of reform.


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So what exactly is wrong with this?

Americans think it's socialist, which equates to communist, which equates to ultimate evil.

Seriously. That's what happened.

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Tobias_London

So what exactly is wrong with this?

AmericansRepublicans think it's socialist, which equates to communist, which equates to ultimate evil.

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So what exactly is wrong with this?

Americans Republicans think it's socialist, which equates to communist, which equates to ultimate evil.

Don't mess up my s**t.

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I'm for socialist medicine in this country.

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Tobias_London

So what exactly is wrong with this?

AmericansIdiots think it's socialist, which equates to communist, which equates to ultimate evil.

Don't mess up my s**t.

I'm an American. I signed petitions trying to push the healthcare reform through. I sure as hell don't think that way. Don't lump me together with those dumbasses.

[Sensorium139]

Well I think it's the house bill that just got passed( I think) that has the problem, as it restricts abortion to women outside of mother's health, rape, and incest, um...Roe V. Wade , do we have it still?

I don't see a problem with a good public health care plan, but if it means restricting a Woman's choice, I simply cannot support that, I will never support it.

[Syndactyly]

"Socialist" > What we have now.

I'll take the health care option that doesn't ******** me in the eye socket.

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So what exactly is wrong with this?

Americans think it's socialist, which equates to communist, which equates to ultimate evil.

Don't mess up my s**t.

I'm an American. I signed petitions trying to push the healthcare reform through. I sure as hell don't think that way. Don't lump me together with those dumbasses.

No need to be so sensitive, boy. Besides, it points out an unsavory attitude in your national fabric.

[Foxie-Sama]

Horrible. Thats what I think of it. The government can't even run Medicare right, so now they want to run health care for ALL Americans?

My grandmother is on Medicare. She has been paying taxes ever since she has been working (since she was in her teens, and she has never been out of work). In the taxes, they take out money for Medicare. Now that she is retired and on social security they are charging premiums on her social security for her Medicare! What is wrong with this picture? They are charging for the same thing twice! At least with private insurance, you only pay once a month, and you can use it right away, not when you are 65. So people that are pro-this health care bill still going to demonize insurance?

And what about pre-existing conditions you say? I have a few things to say about that. If pre-existing conditions were not excluded under private insurance, no one would buy it until they were actually going to use it. It would be like buying car insurance AFTER you had an accident and having the insurance company pay for the whole accident. How long do you think an insurance company would stay in business? Not very long.

So I have a proposition for the government that would take care of the pre-existing conditions. Here in my state, auto insurance is required to drive. If you are turned down by enough insurers, you can be placed in a separate "pool" of insurance for a few years, and then as long as you are accident and violation free, you can go with a regular insurer. Now, why won't the government do something similar with people that can't get health insurance due to pre-existing conditions? Because it would cost too much! So if the government couldn't insure them, how in the hell do they expect the insurance companies to insure them?


There is some food for thought