What's next? A FAT Disney Princess?

FAT Princess?

yes	45.3%	[ 87 ]
no	40.6%	[ 78 ]
you're awful for judging us fatties we can't help it except we can	14.1%	[ 27 ]
Total Votes:			[ 192 ]

[David2074]

BinaNeko

I dont even think a fat princess would sell.

Little kids love beauty, and by the sense of beauty, fat might not be beautiful (look at the picture of ariel forexample). However, a chubby princess might work, chubby could be cute, and somebody chubby doesn't necessarily have to have health-issues either! So yeah, a chubby princess might work!

Actually, Dreamworks proved a plumper princess can sell with Princess Fiona in Shrek.
Granted she was not the 'star' of the story but she played a pretty big part.
And they did make Fiona rather pretty even though she was a plump green ogre.

One of the things I like about the Ghibli Studios movies is the heroine is often rather average looking. They tend to be thin but I think that is largely because they are usually young girls. There can be fat kids of course but on the whole children's metabolisms are faster. When I was a kid I could skip desert at lunch and lose 5 pounds a week still otherwise eating all I wanted. Harder to do as an adult. My point is they show children "a kid like them" making the right choices or learning from bad ones rather than some idolized version of a woman most kids will never grow up to be. Plus the Ghibli heroines tend to have brains as well. Some of the Disney lot seem rather vacant. Though I guess Princess Mononoke might be the only Ghibli heroine that is actually a princess.

As to Disney making a fat princess just to champion diversity - just - NO.
My life can be complete without a fat princess and a one legged princess and a princess in a wheelchair etc. In the end though Disney will make what ever movie fodder they believe will sell tickets.

[marshmallowcreampie]

David2074

Actually, Dreamworks proved a plumper princess can sell with Princess Fiona in Shrek.
Granted she was not the 'star' of the story but she played a pretty big part.
And they did make Fiona rather pretty even though she was a plump green ogre.

One of the things I like about the Ghibli Studios movies is the heroine is often rather average looking. They tend to be thin but I think that is largely because they are usually young girls. There can be fat kids of course but on the whole children's metabolisms are faster. When I was a kid I could skip desert at lunch and lose 5 pounds a week still otherwise eating all I wanted. Harder to do as an adult. My point is they show children "a kid like them" making the right choices or learning from bad ones rather than some idolized version of a woman most kids will never grow up to be. Plus the Ghibli heroines tend to have brains as well. Some of the Disney lot seem rather vacant. Though I guess Princess Mononoke might be the only Ghibli heroine that is actually a princess.

As to Disney making a fat princess just to champion diversity - just - NO.
My life can be complete without a fat princess and a one legged princess and a princess in a wheelchair etc. In the end though Disney will make what ever movie fodder they believe will sell tickets.

But Fiona isn't really what "sold" the franchise or the movie. The advertisements didn't focus much on her and there hasn't been a lot of merchandise featuring her.

[David2074]

marshmallowcreampie

David2074

Actually, Dreamworks proved a plumper princess can sell with Princess Fiona in Shrek.
Granted she was not the 'star' of the story but she played a pretty big part.
And they did make Fiona rather pretty even though she was a plump green ogre.

One of the things I like about the Ghibli Studios movies is the heroine is often rather average looking. They tend to be thin but I think that is largely because they are usually young girls. There can be fat kids of course but on the whole children's metabolisms are faster. When I was a kid I could skip desert at lunch and lose 5 pounds a week still otherwise eating all I wanted. Harder to do as an adult. My point is they show children "a kid like them" making the right choices or learning from bad ones rather than some idolized version of a woman most kids will never grow up to be. Plus the Ghibli heroines tend to have brains as well. Some of the Disney lot seem rather vacant. Though I guess Princess Mononoke might be the only Ghibli heroine that is actually a princess.

As to Disney making a fat princess just to champion diversity - just - NO.
My life can be complete without a fat princess and a one legged princess and a princess in a wheelchair etc. In the end though Disney will make what ever movie fodder they believe will sell tickets.

But Fiona isn't really what "sold" the franchise or the movie. The advertisements didn't focus much on her and there hasn't been a lot of merchandise featuring her.

There were Fiona dolls, action figures, plush toys, wig and misc other stuff. See here:
http://www.shrektoy.info/node/27
I don't have any sales figures but I agree she probably didn't sell as much as Shrek figures or maybe even Donkey. She's just the closest example I could think of and the franchise apparently did well in spite of her plumpness being a major part of it, even in the sequels.

In Disney movies there is usually a 'fat one' but this role is typically the bumbling, overweight comedic sidekick of the group. It is part of the formulaic group casting Disney has used over and over again (along with the popular kid, the usually tomboy-ish girl, the nerdy smart one with glasses etc.). You can usually spot these characters whether they are people or mice or some other creature. I don't feel Disney needs to have fat stars but it would be nice if they'd ditch that stereotype and stop making the chubby one bumbling and inept. They likely won't though because that formula seems to sell. It's sort of a shotgun approach to psychology, tossing out a range of stereotype characters so the vast majority of kids viewing the movie will find at least one character they can identify with. The fat kid in the movie usually gets tossed some sort of bone near the end of the movie where the group decides he helped some too and he can be accepted in their group.

[ID Namarra]

No fat princesses just more chubby chaser porn.

[Xedhadeaus]

Just like Drake and Josh...
It was "funny" when Josh was the fat loser with the cool guy
Josh loses weight, looks better than Drake... There goes the show...

Fat is ugly and funny to media. If funny from I Carly wasn't fat, him taking his shirt off wouldn't be finny... Him wanting fat cakes wouldn't be funny either...

See any fat guy actors that aren't as a joke or not a comedian... Nope.
See any fat girl actors that arent as a joke, comedian, or talk show host? No...

I mean, I think it's already happened, just not to Disney... If that were the case, the step sisters of Cinderella might have got some love.

[RyouIshtar]

I hope they make the fat disney princess black so that way i can enjoy my family complaining about how 'that white man (though they will use another word for some odd reason) did us blacks so wrong' ...............That would give me so much to laugh about XD. God, i love their yelling for nothing....it'll probably go on longer than when that one black actor made that video about 'black hair'. Actually, they are still yelling about that =.=

[Dr Not a Writer]

Uulmshar

Oh goodness, please no.
Race cannot be changed, and therefore should be supported, but fat? Fat can be gained or lost at a whim. Don't support this ugly, unhealthy lifestyle.

Thank you so much!

[Valiant Corvus]

David2074

Actually, Dreamworks proved a plumper princess can sell with Princess Fiona in Shrek.
Granted she was not the 'star' of the story but she played a pretty big part.
And they did make Fiona rather pretty even though she was a plump green ogre.

I think they get around this with the fact that she's an ogre. And the whole love story originated with the whole "It's not what's outside, but what's inside that counts".

Have you seen a female ogre in any story with the figure of a super model? I haven't.

[David2074]

RyouIshtar

I hope they make the fat disney princess black so that way i can enjoy my family complaining about how 'that white man (though they will use another word for some odd reason) did us blacks so wrong' ...............That would give me so much to laugh about XD. God, i love their yelling for nothing....it'll probably go on longer than when that one black actor made that video about 'black hair'. Actually, they are still yelling about that =.=

Maybe it just caught me in a weird mood but I laughed at this until I had tears in my eyes.
I can practically hear them in my mind because I have heard people like that.
My son in law is black but thankfully he doesn't rant on like that. He'd be the one laughing at it.

[David2074]

Astoru

David2074

Actually, Dreamworks proved a plumper princess can sell with Princess Fiona in Shrek.
Granted she was not the 'star' of the story but she played a pretty big part.
And they did make Fiona rather pretty even though she was a plump green ogre.

I think they get around this with the fact that she's an ogre. And the whole love story originated with the whole "It's not what's outside, but what's inside that counts".

Have you seen a female ogre in any story with the figure of a super model? I haven't.

Yes, I realize the ogre thing gave her an excuse to be large and that is a bit different than if all the characters were human and the hero chose her over all the skinny white girls with small perky breasts. I liked her because she had some brains and self confidence which is more than some of the Disney heroines seem to get.

I agree with what another poster said to the effect of not celebrating fat / obesity.
There is a difference between being accepting of someone who is obese and championing it as something to emulate. I don't think Disney ever will not do to any sense of moral compass but simply because it won't sell as well. I mentioned Fiona as the only commercially successful movie I could think of with a fat princess. I agree there were qualifying factors.

[Suicidesoldier#1]

Sounds cool to me.

[atiny_blackmage]

I'mma make a fat princess whose central conflict isn't related to her overcoming her "inferior/weakness/physical flaw".