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- Posted: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 20:11:27 +0000
Only too easy?
Hyperthyroidism - Less than 1%.
Genetics - According to wikipedia, it states that genetics shows a whopping 6-80% range, simply because just about all studies offered are flawed in almost every aspect. The studies that offer any high percentages ignore actual genetics almost entirely, attempting to convince the readers of the studies that the lifestyle habits are unrelated. Realistically, genetics offer next to nil explanation as for why someone cannot lose weight by natural means. Just about everyone can, should they actually put in the effort.
Growth Hormone Overproduction - You can count this (less than 1%), but you'll have a good deal of more problems than weight gain...
Diabetes - It affects 7.8% of US population, however, this doesn't mean that they are all overweight. Percentage of people who have diabetes are easily assumed less than half of those with diabetes. I'll chalk this up to personal interactions. Keep in mind, however, that a good percentages of diabetes cases are caused by obesity, not the other way around.
Cushing's Syndrome - Currently, no data is offered about how many people are affected by Cushing's Syndrome. The percentage is merely stated as being 'Uncommon'. It's fair to assume that less than 1 out of every 1000 people have this disease. That is also being overly generous with the numbers. I'm sure it's closer to around 1 out of every 1 million.
- The more weight you gain, the more your body needs to adjust to losing this weight (where as previously, the effort was nonexistent). People who fail to lose weight do just that, fail. The only people who cannot really lose weight, or at least actually struggle to do so, are those with the above stated problems. The only one that was left out was allergies, but only because it is so incredibly rare. My fathers sister couldn't drink so much as water without bloating beyond an unnatural size. She died before the turned 5, so I understand it.
HYPOthyroidism is what you wanted to cite. Just letting you know. Hyperthyroidism is an over-active thyroid gland. Hypothyroidism is an under-active thyroid gland. (You'll see in my link and in your link, a symptom of hyperthyroidism is weight loss. A symptom of hypothyroidism is weight gain.)
And 1 in 500 people in the US have hypothyroidism. (See, my link.)
Thank you for caching that mistake. I appreciate it. :1
The point is still made, even. 1 in 500 proves less than 1% of the people have a disease that correlates with weight gain. On top of this, it is always incredibly imparitive when reading percentages such as these that one does not assume all individuals with the disease are at all overweight. Many with the disease itself are not overweight, which only lowers the percentage even further. It's a sub-percent of a percent, really.
I thought the point wasn't that these people were necessarily overweight, but that weight loss had different degrees of difficulty? Maybe I am misreading something?
(I did write out a big paragraph about my experiences as someone with hypothyroidism, but you've already stated that you agree that the people you listed above have difficulties losing weight. I suppose I read over that the first time...!)
I've already posted this story, but I'll write it out again to see what you think about it. I have a friend and to be honest she is really fat. Now when she was 15 she got in a car accident that broke her back, one of her legs and her other ankle. So after this she could hardly move on her own for 6 months and after that she still needed a lot of assistance from her sister, a wheel chair, crutches. Even now, 6 years after the fact, she can't really walk long distances and often it hurts her back or her leg or her ankle to walk on it at all. So for over a year she was very very stationary, and there were many days when she only moved to go to the bathroom,if she could manage that alone. So reasonably, she had very little exercise, but to stay healthy, she still had to eat a lot more than she was burning. It's been 6 years and, like I said, she still struggles to be able to walk without being in pain, anything that moves the back too much causes her a lot of pain and now she's really fat.
Would you say my friend is a failure because she can't lose weight? Do I have a more legitimate struggle than her in losing weight because I have hypothyroidism and she has none of the things you listed above? Would you say she can really lose significant weight? Could you say she actually struggles to lose weight?
I'm only asking because I personally consider her less able to lose weight than me. I can run and jog and take extensive walks without my back, legs or ankles becoming so pained I can't even stand anymore. She can't. She gained weight because of a very sedentary life for over a year. But I can't say it's her fault that she was sedentary for so long and I can't say it's her fault that she can't really exercise a lot now to lose the weight from that.
I don't know how common her experiences are, and I'm not sure if we can actually find any sources to how many people have experienced something similar. I know three people (including her) that have similar problems in which their knees/backs were broken and it's painful to move them too much. She's the most severe out of all the people I know, obviously, she's also the fattest so I'd use her as an example. Anyway, my point is, I feel my friend is unable, or at least has a very, very difficult time losing weight because of how much pain she experiences when walks places she needs to nonetheless for exercise. This wasn't included in the above things you mentioned (which you said were the only situations you feel struggling to lose weight was legitimate) so I guess I wanted to know your thoughts on that even if her experiences are an exception, not the rule. cat_sweatdrop
The first thing I'd like to know is if she was overweight prior to the accident.
The above examples I gave were solely about disease. Accidents are entirely circumstantial. Your body can fix a bone naturally, not disease. However, even still, she struggles no more than you. I can easily tell you that she's already eating wrong if she's overweight. It's the same concept as working out and lifting weights. You don't grow more muscle fibers (you can, but that's not the point), but the fibers merely grow in size, which requires more calories to use in order to maintain these larger muscle fibers. If you suddenly stop working out, these fibers shrink, leading to the common misconception that muscle turns into fat (which is false). The reason people believe this is because they fail to accommodate their new calorie burn rate, which is lessoned due to a lack of need to sustain the muscles. Thus, such people are eating more than they should, as they are used to eating a certain way.
The same goes for your friend. You can remain entirely stationary all your life and remain of average body weight. Examples? There are plenty of people who are limited to chairs all their lives, and none of them that are notable right off of my head are remotely overweight. The only ones that are are simply being fed too much or are affected by medication (which gains weight). Then again, she also might be taking medication that is aiding her weight gain. Look into it.
Lastly, she can exercise in a pool. A lot of elderly do this because of their sensitive joints. Something little is better than nothing at all.
Actually it is easy to become overweight when you can't move normally as I said in my case. I was eating a very strict 1200 calorie diet as monitored by my doctors while going through physical therapy and I gained 30 lbs over the course of a year. The doctors did not want me eating any less than that though and said I shouldn't try to diet to lose the weight but that I would be able to lose it easily when I got back to normal activities and they were right. Like I said, I weight 115 now, so back then I was only 145, but that is considered overweight for a girl my size.