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Neither 0.68316831683168 68.3% [ 69 ]
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So a lot of people say smoking pot/cigarettes is wrong because they "cause cancer." Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that pot can and does cause cancer (even though tehre is a great deal of evidence to the contrary). Why is it that another person gets to invade my life, and try to control my health habits? People think that, "because it makes you sick" is reason enough for them not to tell me to do something. Why do they care so much if I get sick?

Some say that it's because when I do get cancer, I'll go the the hospital, leech their time and their resources, and then die before I can pay off my bills, and that raises premiums. I'd like people to prove that cancer patients, as a result of smoking, cause an adverse effect to the health care system that is statistically significant. People usually have NO idea what the numbers are, they just assume they're bad. Well, why don't you prove it instead of just guessing?

Why is it someone else's business what my health is like? Why is it their business if pot makes someone stupid? Why do they feel they have the right to govern another person's intelligence? Why do people use health risk and intelligence as an argument against pot, but not against alcohol?

I don't understand people who are against pot but support alcohol. Why do you think one is okay and not the other? At least smoking pot doesn't make me get in a car and kill a family of 5. People who smoke pot tend to drive really slow.

When I talk about prohibition, and how many lives it would save, people say, "I GOT MY RIGHTS TO DRINK." Well, why don't I got my rights to smoke a bud? People say, "If you take away beer, people will protest, they'll start riots, the country will be in chaos," probably basing this on the last prohibition. Yes, people will throw tantrums. We can also throw their asses in jail when they do. Why can't I use the potheads will throw a tantrum argument? Because pot makes people good natured most of the time. You want to take away a substance that calms people down?

Oh, and IN B4 ONLY THE TITLE IS ADDRESSED.
smoking is fine with me. What pisses me off is the smoke. I don't smoke your cigs, and I don't want to smoke your cigs.
It's my business because I am all of your closest relatives and I care for you so much that I wouldn't allow you to remove yourself from our happy little reality outside of reality.
You can smoke all you want. Just don't smoke all over people. Be courteous and s**t.

But yeah, people should mind their own business. Someone will walk up to you and slap a cigarette out your hand and reprimand you for it. BUT, at the very same time, won't smack a Big Mac out of some obese girl's hands and reprimand her for it.
I don't really care if you want to do that to yourself. I agree people don't have the right to go up and harrass people not to smoke. But if it's someone I care about then I have the right because their sickness and death will effect my life.

I think alcohol is ok and not pot because not as many users get emotionally addicted to alcohol (with the exception of alcoholics, who I think shouldn't be allowed to drink, but I guess that's where law has it's limits cause you can't really find all the alcoholics and stop them from drinking), and it doesn't have the long term mental health effects. I don't like people who choose to smoke pot because they are practically giving themselves a higher risk of depression or schizophrenia, whereas alcohol doesn't tend to cause those things as much. And it's those things - craziness - that really screws up families.
Xeno Incognito
If your aim of smoking is to kill yourself, why not save everyone the time and resources and just end it swiftly?
Did I ever say it was? I smoke pot (rarely, it's been almost 6 months since I had a smoke) to calm down and relax. Also funny you'd encourage me to kill myself just because I you don't like that I smoke.

Xeno Incognito
You're right. You can go ******** yourself and die for all I care. Damn me for being concerned about someone else's well-being.
Good, that's the way things should be.

Xeno Incognito
I don't support alcohol either. It tastes disgusting. but that's besides the point.

Smoking pot impairs your reflexes. That's kinda important when you're speeding down a highway and a car tries to merge in front of you. Well, who knows? We're speaking hypotheticals here.
Then you haven't had good alcohol. Some of it can be delicious, especially "girly drinks," which taste nothing like alcohol but can make you extremely drunk.

Who said a high person would necessarily drive on the freeway? You're damn right this is hypothetical.

Xeno Incognito
The problem with your argument is that alcohol use is more widespread than marijuana use. Speakeasies will be common again. There'll be a black market alcohol industry WAY more lucrative than marijuana.

But hey, I don't care if marijuana is legalized, to be honest. As long as you don't smoke around me.
It will be a lot easier to catch people exchanging alcohol, I'd imagine. But I suppose if it was home-manufactured alcohol people could put it in unlabeled containers.
TL : DR

If you want to get cancer, go for it. Don't b -tch about how you're being controlled or told what to do, because you already are. The government has laws that everyone must follow, you don't seem to mind about that so it comes with the territory that people are going to give you advice, and their opinion. No one's physically stopping you from smoking and that's all you can hope for in this world because if everyone was allowed to do everything they desired we'd all be dead. So you can't have it both ways.
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Did I ever say it was? I smoke pot (rarely, it's been almost 6 months since I had a smoke) to calm down and relax.
I don't know your drug history. Don't blame me for assuming so, especially when you argument is, "Don't infringe on my right to harm myself!"

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Also funny you'd encourage me to kill myself just because I you don't like that I smoke.
Why bother trying to help a lost cause?

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Then you haven't had good alcohol. Some of it can be delicious, especially "girly drinks," which taste nothing like alcohol but can make you extremely drunk.

Who said a high person would necessarily drive on the freeway? You're damn right this is hypothetical.
Freeway, roadway, whatever. If a kid darts in front of your car, you're not going to be stopping as quickly either (still talking hypothetically, of course).

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t will be a lot easier to catch people exchanging alcohol, I'd imagine. But I suppose if it was home-manufactured alcohol people could put it in unlabeled containers.
You can hide commercial alcohol too. Some drinks don't look much different from soda or juice.
Charity of Consciousness
TL : DR

If you want to get cancer, go for it. Don't b -tch about how you're being controlled or told what to do, because you already are. The government has laws that everyone must follow, you don't seem to mind about that so it comes with the territory that people are going to give you advice, and their opinion. No one's physically stopping you from smoking and that's all you can hope for in this world because if everyone was allowed to do everything they desired we'd all be dead. So you can't have it both ways.
Yeah, obviously you didn't read it. rolleyes This is not about the government, it's about CITIZENS trying to control what I do. Their "advice" and opinion becomes an issue when they get in my face about it and try to turn it into law.
Xeno Incognito
[...]especially when you argument is, "Don't infringe on my right to harm myself!"
Yeah, why do people think they can do that?

Xeno Incognito
Why bother trying to help a lost cause?
Explain how I'm a lost cause.

Xeno Incognito
Freeway, roadway, whatever. If a kid darts in front of your car, you're not going to be stopping as quickly either (still talking hypothetically, of course).
Yeah, I don't think I've ever said I condone smoking and driving. I was just comparing the effects vs. how alcohol effects how a person drives. If I hit a kid at 10 mph he's probably gonna live. But the point was never to state that people should be able to smoke and drive.
Apparently everyone's so bored with their own pious lives, they need to stick their fingers into the lives of others. Concern for your health is to be expected, but pushing for legislation of using physical force to deny you these personal choices is unacceptable.
Studies of the effect of marijuana on driving performance show that the effect is relatively insignificant.
Yoshpet
Apparently everyone's so bored with their own pious lives, they need to stick their fingers into the lives of others. Concern for your health is to be expected, but pushing for legislation of using physical force to deny you these personal choices is unacceptable.
Agreed.
Stygian Soleil
Studies of the affect of marijuana on driving performance show that the effect is relatively insignificant.
This has been my experience. My friend would smoke and drive all the time. He drive better than most people on the road. We'd pass the bowl around and that sometimes acted as a bit of a distraction, not the smoking itself.

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