What do you think about bullfighting?

[Thisistotallyridiculous]

I really don't see the entertainment in it...

There are much more entertaining things to do that don't involve stabbing a bull repeatedly til it collapses. Maybe that's just my opinion though?

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Thisistotallyridiculous

I really don't see the entertainment in it...

There are much more entertaining things to do that don't involve stabbing a bull repeatedly til it collapses. Maybe that's just my opinion though?

Not seeing entertainment in an act does not mean it is not entertainment.

[Blind Guardian the 2nd]

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Blow it out your a**

Well done. You've successfully terminated the debate.

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Blind Guardian the 2nd

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Blow it out your a**

Well done. You've successfully terminated the debate.

I terminated the debate a long time ago when I slapped down any vestiges of logic you'd had left in the discussion.

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Blow it out your a**

Well done. You've successfully terminated the debate.

I terminated the debate a long time ago when I slapped down any vestiges of logic you'd had left in the discussion.

Mmmhmm.

[Thisistotallyridiculous]

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Thisistotallyridiculous

I really don't see the entertainment in it...

There are much more entertaining things to do that don't involve stabbing a bull repeatedly til it collapses. Maybe that's just my opinion though?

Not seeing entertainment in an act does not mean it is not entertainment.

Ummmm. Obviously I'm aware it's entertainment to some...


But to me it isn't. Just like watching people play football isn't entertainment to me, but it is to most Americans.

Personally, I'd rather be playing football myself, or reading.

[Basement kat]

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Basement kat

I really have got no problem with bull fighting. It is an art form and a measure of skill. Unlike bear baiting or dog fighting it pits human against animal and the animal is not wasted. Yes, I do feel that you end up with a better meat product when the animal isn't stressed but if you don't think that animals going through the slaughter houses are stressed every minute of their lives, you are kidding yourself. Free range exist but it is still not cost efficient so factory farming is still the game plan for most meat production.

Why is animal against human so much better than animal against animal? It isn't. How about if you enjoy it so much you can go ahead and stab another person who enjoys it in a ring. And no, it depends on the type of slaughter, but they don't particularly go through stress. Definitely not as much as a bull in a bullfight. I don't actually necessarily agree with the stun rod because studies have shown it causes the animal to be in pain, even if they're unconscious. However slitting an animal's throat or shooting (in the right area) are quite humane. The animal loses consciousness in both cases and feels minimal or no pain.

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While I am certain the care of fighting bulls is not something regulated common sense says that a better cared for animal is easier to train and makes a better fighter. In the past I have seen reports of some of the fighting bull farms and the animals live fairly free ranged. They aren't confined like our beef production so up until the time of the fight the bull has lead a decent quality of life.

Not necessarily, no. Just like dogs who are pitted in dog fights are hardly the best cared for dogs. They're often kept in cramped, confined areas, starved, and abused to make condition them to violent response. As BCJ mentioned, the same is done to bulls, and I mentioned they're kept in cramped cages and light deprivation is used to disorient them.

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People in this thread also seem to not know or simply forget that there are non-lethal bullfights. These are nothing more then a showcase of skill on the matador's part. There are no swords. I want to say that Portugal is one of the countries that practices non-lethal fighting where picks are thrust into a pad on the bulls back while the matador and his horse put themselves at risk. If you are against bull fighting are you against these methods too since all it does is showcase a tradition that is based in blood shed?

You got it right, except for the part where there is no pad on the bull's back. They stab it repeatedly. But yes, in this hypothetical situation where the bull was somehow armored, and a horse WASN'T put at risk for a dumb tradition, and it was just a matador on foot with a bull that would not be actually stabbed, and the bull wasn't treated inhumanely like they are, I wouldn't have a problem with it. Show me this style of bullfighting because I'm pretty sure it doesn't exist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS4bGwA0QSc

"please understand that this is a non-lethal bullfight. There is a velcro pad on the bull's back and the spears are velcro-tipped"

Doesn't exist, huh? You all need to do your research because I do mine and can always back up what I say.