US Empire?

[Suicidesoldier#1]

The20

It's not so much that they have wars, it's more that they started them all, lie to get them started and are in the news because of dead civilians all the time.
That and Guantanamo.

The irony being of course that it was never us that tortured Detainees.

An unfortunate truth perhaps?


Lie to get them started? xp

So Saddam Hussein wasn't evil? xp


Or perhaps Osama Bin Laden?

[hahahalolwut]

Suicidesoldier#1

The irony being of course that it was never us that tortured Detainees.

of course not. we just paid for it. and killed thousands upon thousands upon thousands of civilians in the last decade. and redefined enemy combatant so that half the civilians killed in drone strikes wouldn't be called that. and invaded a country without casus belli.

we aren't an evil empire. honest.

[Lord Karev]

hahahalolwut

Suicidesoldier#1

The irony being of course that it was never us that tortured Detainees.

of course not. we just paid for it. and killed thousands upon thousands upon thousands of civilians in the last decade. and redefined enemy combatant so that half the civilians killed in drone strikes wouldn't be called that. and invaded a country without casus belli.

we aren't an evil empire. honest.

So what do you conclude now?

[Lord Karev]

Suicidesoldier#1

The20

It's not so much that they have wars, it's more that they started them all, lie to get them started and are in the news because of dead civilians all the time.
That and Guantanamo.

The irony being of course that it was never us that tortured Detainees.

An unfortunate truth perhaps?


Lie to get them started? xp

So Saddam Hussein wasn't evil? xp


Or perhaps Osama Bin Laden?

Gimme a concluded point brother not the argumentative ones.

[Suicidesoldier#1]

Mark_Karev

Suicidesoldier#1

The20

It's not so much that they have wars, it's more that they started them all, lie to get them started and are in the news because of dead civilians all the time.
That and Guantanamo.

The irony being of course that it was never us that tortured Detainees.

An unfortunate truth perhaps?


Lie to get them started? xp

So Saddam Hussein wasn't evil? xp


Or perhaps Osama Bin Laden?

Gimme a concluded point brother not the argumentative ones.

Well, it would depend on if he thinks 9/11 was a hoax, there were no weapons of mass destruction, Saddam Hussein wasn't actually evil etc.

Since it was the Iraqi's who did it and America supposedly "let it happen" it wasn't actually America.


GITMO is part of an international United Nations POW camp, but it is not the only one.

Hence while things occurred under GITMO, and the U.S. did indeed build the basic facilities (prisoner holding cells, etc.) it was not in fact responsible for what occurred there. xp

[Lord Karev]

Fire 0ak

I'm American and I could see why other countries would think we overstep our authority. The problem is that civilians let the government do whatever its wants across the globe. And the global actions a country take are held against them critically. The whole country and it's people are blamed even when a few "decision makers" caused the problem. We really should start understanding that our leader's actions can effect us directly. If our country runs around like it runs the world then we all will be judged for it as if it were our own actions. We should make our country act how we would act for once.

So you mean to call the public as a hypocrisy public? Well what you stated is right but it's easier said than done babe. What concluding solution you gave is totally impossible with what is going on globally .

[Lord Karev]

Suicidesoldier#1

Well, you know, all the Europeans are claiming we're imperialist for...

Them being imperialists. xp

They just want to take away attention from them.


But I mean, okay, where are our colonies?

Maybe we have secret moon colonies but that's about it.

Where did the Europeans and the imperialistic colonies come here from? eek

[Lord Karev]

azulmagia

All empires are ipso facto evil.

Ipso facto?

[Suicidesoldier#1]

Mark_Karev

Suicidesoldier#1

Well, you know, all the Europeans are claiming we're imperialist for...

Them being imperialists. xp

They just want to take away attention from them.


But I mean, okay, where are our colonies?

Maybe we have secret moon colonies but that's about it.

Where did the Europeans and the imperialistic colonies come here from? eek

O_o

o_O

O_O;!


Probs the moon, as lizards.

But they went into Africa, America etc., we'd need a colony before we could be an empire. xp

[Suicidesoldier#1]

hahahalolwut

Suicidesoldier#1

The irony being of course that it was never us that tortured Detainees.

of course not. we just paid for it. and killed thousands upon thousands upon thousands of civilians in the last decade. and redefined enemy combatant so that half the civilians killed in drone strikes wouldn't be called that. and invaded a country without casus belli.

we aren't an evil empire. honest.

Except that we've maybe only killed a few hundred, and even if we did kill a few thousand it would still be less, way less, than WWII with a country that is larger, has more powerful weapons, was making VX gas etc.

Saddam Hussein was oppressing his people, drastically, and had legitimate concentration camps, among other things.


The fact that 99.99% of the civilians remain alive, woman are treated decently now, hell men are treated decently now and can vote, that they can defend themselves?

As horrific and awful and terrible as it would be, we killed a lot more in WWII and that was justified. How would this not be?


A few hundred accidental deaths aren't the same as purposely killing millions, and gassing hundreds of thousands like Saddam Hussein.

It was never our intention, at all. But even if it was a few thousand accidental deaths, it wouldn't be that bad. In the grand scheme of things, compared to all the good we did, and compared to previous saving entire country wars, I'd say we're doing even better than ever. As sad as it is to kill anyone, even terrorists, the entire event was justified and while we weren't perfect, for the most part, even if you believe in the thousands statistic, as horrible as it is, it's still not the makings of an evil empire.


That also wouldn't make us and empire, though.

We'd need a colony first. xp

[Lord Karev]

Queen Shining Heaven

It's just the "blame America first" crowd whining about the usual crap. The U.S is no evil empire

Hahahah Nahh ! It ain't that way .

[Lord Karev]

Suicidesoldier#1

Mark_Karev

Suicidesoldier#1

The20

It's not so much that they have wars, it's more that they started them all, lie to get them started and are in the news because of dead civilians all the time.
That and Guantanamo.

The irony being of course that it was never us that tortured Detainees.

An unfortunate truth perhaps?


Lie to get them started? xp

So Saddam Hussein wasn't evil? xp


Or perhaps Osama Bin Laden?

Gimme a concluded point brother not the argumentative ones.

Well, it would depend on if he thinks 9/11 was a hoax, there were no weapons of mass destruction, Saddam Hussein wasn't actually evil etc.

Since it was the Iraqi's who did it and America supposedly "let it happen" it wasn't actually America.


GITMO is part of an international United Nations POW camp, but it is not the only one.

Hence while things occurred under GITMO, and the U.S. did indeed build the basic facilities (prisoner holding cells, etc.) it was not in fact responsible for what occurred there. xp

Your examples on Iraqi's and America's actions have contradicted each other which pulls you away from reaching to a strong point . I need a strong concluded point .

[Lord Karev]

Suicidesoldier#1

Mark_Karev

Suicidesoldier#1

Well, you know, all the Europeans are claiming we're imperialist for...

Them being imperialists. xp

They just want to take away attention from them.


But I mean, okay, where are our colonies?

Maybe we have secret moon colonies but that's about it.

Where did the Europeans and the imperialistic colonies come here from? eek

O_o

o_O

O_O;!


Probs the moon, as lizards.

But they went into Africa, America etc., we'd need a colony before we could be an empire. xp

You're literally going off the topic. xp

[Suicidesoldier#1]

Mark_Karev

Suicidesoldier#1

Mark_Karev

Suicidesoldier#1

The20

It's not so much that they have wars, it's more that they started them all, lie to get them started and are in the news because of dead civilians all the time.
That and Guantanamo.

The irony being of course that it was never us that tortured Detainees.

An unfortunate truth perhaps?


Lie to get them started? xp

So Saddam Hussein wasn't evil? xp


Or perhaps Osama Bin Laden?

Gimme a concluded point brother not the argumentative ones.

Well, it would depend on if he thinks 9/11 was a hoax, there were no weapons of mass destruction, Saddam Hussein wasn't actually evil etc.

Since it was the Iraqi's who did it and America supposedly "let it happen" it wasn't actually America.


GITMO is part of an international United Nations POW camp, but it is not the only one.

Hence while things occurred under GITMO, and the U.S. did indeed build the basic facilities (prisoner holding cells, etc.) it was not in fact responsible for what occurred there. xp

Your examples on Iraqi's and America's actions have contradicted each other which pulls you away from reaching to a strong point . I need a strong concluded point .

Well, I has sources.

But it would be painful for me to go through and search it all up D:


I don't like torture or death.

Everyone also has a nasty habit of showing pictures of the detainees; like I don't want to see God damn it.


But even the Guardian says we "let it happen", rather than actually do it.

Considering how Anti American they are I think it's rather revealing. xp

[Lord Karev]

Suicidesoldier#1

Mark_Karev

Suicidesoldier#1

Mark_Karev

Suicidesoldier#1

The20

It's not so much that they have wars, it's more that they started them all, lie to get them started and are in the news because of dead civilians all the time.
That and Guantanamo.

The irony being of course that it was never us that tortured Detainees.

An unfortunate truth perhaps?


Lie to get them started? xp

So Saddam Hussein wasn't evil? xp


Or perhaps Osama Bin Laden?

Gimme a concluded point brother not the argumentative ones.

Well, it would depend on if he thinks 9/11 was a hoax, there were no weapons of mass destruction, Saddam Hussein wasn't actually evil etc.

Since it was the Iraqi's who did it and America supposedly "let it happen" it wasn't actually America.


GITMO is part of an international United Nations POW camp, but it is not the only one.

Hence while things occurred under GITMO, and the U.S. did indeed build the basic facilities (prisoner holding cells, etc.) it was not in fact responsible for what occurred there. xp

Your examples on Iraqi's and America's actions have contradicted each other which pulls you away from reaching to a strong point . I need a strong concluded point .

Well, I has sources.

But it would be painful for me to go through and search it all up D:


I don't like torture or death.

Everyone also has a nasty habit of showing pictures of the detainees; like I don't want to see God damn it.


But even the Guardian says we "let it happen", rather than actually do it.

Considering how Anti American they are I think it's rather revealing. xp

Hahahahahah XD So what do you say? America = Evil or not ?