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They kind of were. They thought everyone was equal and deserved equal rights and things regardless of "race".

Whow, you're referencing yourself as we now? God help us all.


But, this is irrelevant. Sudden extreme changes are not necessarily normal.
No. They were opposed to the institution of slavery. That does not in any way mean that they were in favor of equal rights.

None of us are ever the same.


Pretty sure they were. That was the idea at the time, anyways.

And even so, most the people in them were anti-racism as well. It's not really a coincidence.


It depends on what aspect you are referring to, But even if that's true, it's about the specific changes that occurred. Such as being crazy all the time.
Absolutely incorrect.

Incorrect.

We are not crazy.


Well I'm crazy, but who are you referencing?

So, the fact they were against slavery of people based on their skin color and the fact they were anti-racist was just a coincidence?
Us.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Man's_Burden


So...

If a white person helps anyone who isn't white they are racist?


Also, there were a lot of woman in the abolitionist movement.

As well as black people who lived in the north.
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Pretty sure they were. That was the idea at the time, anyways.

And even so, most the people in them were anti-racism as well. It's not really a coincidence.


It depends on what aspect you are referring to, But even if that's true, it's about the specific changes that occurred. Such as being crazy all the time.
Absolutely incorrect.

Incorrect.

We are not crazy.


Well I'm crazy, but who are you referencing?

So, the fact they were against slavery of people based on their skin color and the fact they were anti-racist was just a coincidence?
Us.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Man's_Burden


So...

If a white person helps anyone who isn't white they are racist?
Incorrect. Reread it.
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Pretty sure they were. That was the idea at the time, anyways.

And even so, most the people in them were anti-racism as well. It's not really a coincidence.


It depends on what aspect you are referring to, But even if that's true, it's about the specific changes that occurred. Such as being crazy all the time.
Absolutely incorrect.

Incorrect.

We are not crazy.


Well I'm crazy, but who are you referencing?

So, the fact they were against slavery of people based on their skin color and the fact they were anti-racist was just a coincidence?
Us.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Man's_Burden


So...

If a white person helps anyone who isn't white they are racist?
Incorrect. Reread it.


Yeah, I just don't think that's the psychologically of many people.


Also, there were a lot of woman in the abolitionist movement.

As well as black people who lived in the north.


Although I think Rich person's burden more appropriate.
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Well I'm crazy, but who are you referencing?

So, the fact they were against slavery of people based on their skin color and the fact they were anti-racist was just a coincidence?
Us.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Man's_Burden


So...

If a white person helps anyone who isn't white they are racist?
Incorrect. Reread it.


Yeah, I just don't think that's the psychologically of many people.


Also, there were a lot of woman in the abolitionist movement.

As well as black people who lived in the north.

Although I think Rich person's burden more appropriate.
You obviously didn't pay attention to the KONY2012 movement.

And, given the context within which we were discussing, why would black people being opposed to racism have any relevance? We were discussing the white population.

You are not the first person to give the tired argument that socioeconomics is the determiner of oppression as opposed to race, and you will not be the last. It does not make you right.
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Well I'm crazy, but who are you referencing?

So, the fact they were against slavery of people based on their skin color and the fact they were anti-racist was just a coincidence?
Us.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Man's_Burden


So...

If a white person helps anyone who isn't white they are racist?
Incorrect. Reread it.


Yeah, I just don't think that's the psychologically of many people.


Also, there were a lot of woman in the abolitionist movement.

As well as black people who lived in the north.

Although I think Rich person's burden more appropriate.
You obviously didn't pay attention to the KONY2012 movement.

And, given the context within which we were discussing, why would black people being opposed to racism have any relevance? We were discussing the white population.

You are not the first person to give the tired argument that socioeconomics is the determiner of oppression as opposed to race, and you will not be the last. It does not make you right.


Right, so, people want to help other people, an they happen to be white, and the other people happen to be black, so it's racism?

Cause that's all you're really going on.


And we're talking about abolition. O_o

But yeah, I think that mentality is better suited for "rich people" who want to help out those darned poor peoplesz.
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So...

If a white person helps anyone who isn't white they are racist?
Incorrect. Reread it.


Yeah, I just don't think that's the psychologically of many people.


Also, there were a lot of woman in the abolitionist movement.

As well as black people who lived in the north.

Although I think Rich person's burden more appropriate.
You obviously didn't pay attention to the KONY2012 movement.

And, given the context within which we were discussing, why would black people being opposed to racism have any relevance? We were discussing the white population.

You are not the first person to give the tired argument that socioeconomics is the determiner of oppression as opposed to race, and you will not be the last. It does not make you right.


Right, so, people want to help other people, an they happen to be white, and the other people happen to be black, so it's racism?

Cause that's all you're really going on.


And we're talking about abolition. O_o

But yeah, I think that mentality is better suited for "rich people" who want to help out those darned poor peoplesz.
No, it is not. White man's burden is the idea that white people helped minorities because they were helpless savages who needed white people lest they destroy themselves or be destroyed.

I take it history is not your strong suit, at all.
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So...

If a white person helps anyone who isn't white they are racist?
Incorrect. Reread it.


Yeah, I just don't think that's the psychologically of many people.


Also, there were a lot of woman in the abolitionist movement.

As well as black people who lived in the north.

Although I think Rich person's burden more appropriate.
You obviously didn't pay attention to the KONY2012 movement.

And, given the context within which we were discussing, why would black people being opposed to racism have any relevance? We were discussing the white population.

You are not the first person to give the tired argument that socioeconomics is the determiner of oppression as opposed to race, and you will not be the last. It does not make you right.


Right, so, people want to help other people, an they happen to be white, and the other people happen to be black, so it's racism?

Cause that's all you're really going on.


And we're talking about abolition. O_o

But yeah, I think that mentality is better suited for "rich people" who want to help out those darned poor peoplesz.
No, it is not. White man's burden is the idea that white people helped minorities because they were helpless savages who needed white people lest they destroy themselves or be destroyed.

I take it history is not your strong suit, at all.


I'm not sure that's why people do things.

The British tried to use that as an excuse but it was only like the higher upsz for the justification of colonization, and then they were distinctly proven wrong and very few people believe that.
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Yeah, I just don't think that's the psychologically of many people.


Also, there were a lot of woman in the abolitionist movement.

As well as black people who lived in the north.

Although I think Rich person's burden more appropriate.
You obviously didn't pay attention to the KONY2012 movement.

And, given the context within which we were discussing, why would black people being opposed to racism have any relevance? We were discussing the white population.

You are not the first person to give the tired argument that socioeconomics is the determiner of oppression as opposed to race, and you will not be the last. It does not make you right.


Right, so, people want to help other people, an they happen to be white, and the other people happen to be black, so it's racism?

Cause that's all you're really going on.


And we're talking about abolition. O_o

But yeah, I think that mentality is better suited for "rich people" who want to help out those darned poor peoplesz.
No, it is not. White man's burden is the idea that white people helped minorities because they were helpless savages who needed white people lest they destroy themselves or be destroyed.

I take it history is not your strong suit, at all.


I'm not sure that's why people do things.

The British tried to use that as an excuse but it was only like the higher upsz for the justification of colonization, and then they were distinctly proven wrong and very few people believe that.
Incorrect. It was a very popular sociocultural trope, hence the prevalence of the noble savage stereotype that flooded the media around that time period.
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Yeah, I just don't think that's the psychologically of many people.


Also, there were a lot of woman in the abolitionist movement.

As well as black people who lived in the north.

Although I think Rich person's burden more appropriate.
You obviously didn't pay attention to the KONY2012 movement.

And, given the context within which we were discussing, why would black people being opposed to racism have any relevance? We were discussing the white population.

You are not the first person to give the tired argument that socioeconomics is the determiner of oppression as opposed to race, and you will not be the last. It does not make you right.


Right, so, people want to help other people, an they happen to be white, and the other people happen to be black, so it's racism?

Cause that's all you're really going on.


And we're talking about abolition. O_o

But yeah, I think that mentality is better suited for "rich people" who want to help out those darned poor peoplesz.
No, it is not. White man's burden is the idea that white people helped minorities because they were helpless savages who needed white people lest they destroy themselves or be destroyed.

I take it history is not your strong suit, at all.


I'm not sure that's why people do things.

The British tried to use that as an excuse but it was only like the higher upsz for the justification of colonization, and then they were distinctly proven wrong and very few people believe that.
Incorrect. It was a very popular sociocultural trope, hence the prevalence of the noble savage stereotype that flooded the media around that time period.


And who controlled the media?
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Right, so, people want to help other people, an they happen to be white, and the other people happen to be black, so it's racism?

Cause that's all you're really going on.


And we're talking about abolition. O_o

But yeah, I think that mentality is better suited for "rich people" who want to help out those darned poor peoplesz.
No, it is not. White man's burden is the idea that white people helped minorities because they were helpless savages who needed white people lest they destroy themselves or be destroyed.

I take it history is not your strong suit, at all.


I'm not sure that's why people do things.

The British tried to use that as an excuse but it was only like the higher upsz for the justification of colonization, and then they were distinctly proven wrong and very few people believe that.
Incorrect. It was a very popular sociocultural trope, hence the prevalence of the noble savage stereotype that flooded the media around that time period.


And who controlled the media?
The authors at the time. Otherwise, you wouldn't have found George Orwell writing Burmese Days and maintaining his freedom. Though he is a later example, which is to say if he could get away with scathing satire of British imperialism and colonialism, the media was not being controlled. State-run media is more recent than that.
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Right, so, people want to help other people, an they happen to be white, and the other people happen to be black, so it's racism?

Cause that's all you're really going on.


And we're talking about abolition. O_o

But yeah, I think that mentality is better suited for "rich people" who want to help out those darned poor peoplesz.
No, it is not. White man's burden is the idea that white people helped minorities because they were helpless savages who needed white people lest they destroy themselves or be destroyed.

I take it history is not your strong suit, at all.


I'm not sure that's why people do things.

The British tried to use that as an excuse but it was only like the higher upsz for the justification of colonization, and then they were distinctly proven wrong and very few people believe that.
Incorrect. It was a very popular sociocultural trope, hence the prevalence of the noble savage stereotype that flooded the media around that time period.


And who controlled the media?
The authors at the time. Otherwise, you wouldn't have found George Orwell writing Burmese Days and maintaining his freedom. Though he is a later example, which is to say if he could get away with scathing satire of British imperialism and colonialism, the media was not being controlled. State-run media is more recent than that.


Not really, you say anything bad about the queen you were likely to be shot. In that way lots of other things were in control of or encouraged, and many more things were discouraged.

Orwell? That was the end of colonialism and things.
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I'm not sure that's why people do things.

The British tried to use that as an excuse but it was only like the higher upsz for the justification of colonization, and then they were distinctly proven wrong and very few people believe that.
Incorrect. It was a very popular sociocultural trope, hence the prevalence of the noble savage stereotype that flooded the media around that time period.


And who controlled the media?
The authors at the time. Otherwise, you wouldn't have found George Orwell writing Burmese Days and maintaining his freedom. Though he is a later example, which is to say if he could get away with scathing satire of British imperialism and colonialism, the media was not being controlled. State-run media is more recent than that.


Not really, you say anything bad about the queen you were likely to be shot. In that way lots of other things were in control of or encouraged, and many more things were discouraged.

Orwell? That was the end of colonialism and things.
And yet satire consistently got through.

The British Raj didn't end until 1947.
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I'm not sure that's why people do things.

The British tried to use that as an excuse but it was only like the higher upsz for the justification of colonization, and then they were distinctly proven wrong and very few people believe that.
Incorrect. It was a very popular sociocultural trope, hence the prevalence of the noble savage stereotype that flooded the media around that time period.


And who controlled the media?
The authors at the time. Otherwise, you wouldn't have found George Orwell writing Burmese Days and maintaining his freedom. Though he is a later example, which is to say if he could get away with scathing satire of British imperialism and colonialism, the media was not being controlled. State-run media is more recent than that.


Not really, you say anything bad about the queen you were likely to be shot. In that way lots of other things were in control of or encouraged, and many more things were discouraged.

Orwell? That was the end of colonialism and things.
And yet satire consistently got through.

The British Raj didn't end until 1947.


Apartheid didn't end until 94, but that's a different story.

The colonial aspect was basically over.
Yeah, I still don't understand how it's logical to presume that someone would intentionally run away from an altercation - and then suddenly change their mind, double back, and approach their confronter.

I'm starting to think that people are just throwing "evidence" together now and trying to pass it off as fact.
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