[ Poll ] Transgender Issues- not just "men in dresses"

Are you affected by trans issues?

Yes- I'm trans/I think I might be trans		16.0%	[ 898 ]
Yes- I have a trans friend or relative		12.1%	[ 680 ]
Indirectly- I have a trans acquaintance		6.1%	[ 340 ]
Not directly, but I feel these issues affect me indirectly/ I feel that these issues affect everyone		23.6%	[ 1323 ]
Not at all		30.9%	[ 1733 ]
I don't know		11.2%	[ 626 ]

Total Votes: 5600

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Recursive Paradox

Syndactyly

Recursive Paradox

The idea that someone might equate me with those indigo children bullshitters is terrifying.

My mom absolutely does not believe in transgender.

But she believes in Indigo children.

Your mother is the most godawful stupid piece of human excrement in existence. It's amazing she didn't choke herself to death on your umbilical cord when you were born, she's so stupid.

No offense. XD

She's smarter than a lot of people... but I think she thinks way too highly of her intelligence. >_> Because yes, in some ways she can be incredibly daft.

[Captain Verd]

Syndactyly

Captain Verd

Syndactyly

This morning I ran into "tranny porn" though, and the "transwoman" had a small d**k and no testicles... However she was getting madly sucked off but a gay man and ******** by another. I just don't see how she could really identify as a woman when she's being ******** as a man with tits.

I think we've had this discussion before. How does any transsexual have sex using their biological organs?

Therein lies a double standard. It's perfectly okay when a transwoman sticks her fat c**k inside of someone, but it's just not cool when a transman gets ******** in the p***y. He's no longer a man if he does. rolleyes

Is that a double standard? I guess I wouldn't know.

[Captain Verd]

Blairnensha

I happen to be an expert on Indigo Children - being one myself, I am probably better-equipped to analyze us than any so-called expert with a lower-frequency aura. It is a folly to assume that an Indigo Soul will choose a vessel based on such a triviality as gender; no, the life-force, the timing, the parents must all be perfect. If that means choosing the wrong gender, so be it; that can be corrected later.

Unfortunately, an Indigo Child's ability to perceive the true nature of things will cause them great bodily discomfort which they might not have anticipated, if the gender is indeed incorrect. It is therefore in their best interest to correct this surgically as soon as possible, lest their potential be squandered on just coping with it.

http://www.cs.ucsb.edu/~nurmi/cs60/hw8/wut.bmp

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Captain Verd

Okay, I have a question. Nobody get all pissed about this, because I understand that porn is not real life and s**t don't really go down that way.

Man, if only porn was real life. I could order pizza and get awesome sex.

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Recently, while in a video store, my friends and I stumbled across the movie "Hot Black Teeb Transsexuals 2". The cover had this totally bangin chick with the biggest d**k in the universe. My friend wondered aloud how someone could even do that, and I tried my best to explain only to end up confused as well.

My first thought was to explain the process of how a transwoman changes her sex, but then I was confused about the giant d**k. If a woman's taking estrogen all the time, wouldn't that have an effect on her wang? Like, if she's taken so much that she looks like a curvy woman in every other way, doesn't that mess with the d**k part? I really have no idea.

My other thought was that she got them big titties in another country, but that still doesn't explain the curvy part.

Yeah it doesn't make much sense. Cuz I know my s**t has totally shrunk down quite a bit. It isn't porn p***s by any measure at this point.

I heard from one guy who know someone in porn that sometimes, to keep things up and going, they'd inject irritants into the d**k which would make it swell up and seem bigger (it would also stay hard longer). You could also do this with the injection version of cocaine.

So maybe they IV'd some s**t into her junk? God the idea of that is ******** horrifying...

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Blairnensha

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Captain Verd

Syndactyly

Recursive Paradox

The idea that someone might equate me with those indigo children bullshitters is terrifying.

My mom absolutely does not believe in transgender.

But she believes in Indigo children.

So I tried to put a spin on that. "Maybe as an indigo child, I 'chose' the wrong body on accident because it was my first time and I didn't really know what I wanted." She says we CHOOSE the form we are going to take before we enter the world. I also said, "Or maybe I chose the wrong body on purpose so I would have to go through this mental, physical, and dare I say spiritual transformation." She brushed that off, "Yeah, you can make any argument you want to make your deviancy sound right." Wtf? No, if my "deviancy" doesn't make sense, I can't just make up a logical argument that actually supports it, sorry.

Your mom will be reincarnated as a slug.

She really does need to be taken down a peg. I think that would be fitting. >_>

I happen to be an expert on Indigo Children - being one myself, I am probably better-equipped to analyze us than any so-called expert with a lower-frequency aura. It is a folly to assume that an Indigo Soul will choose a vessel based on such a triviality as gender; no, the life-force, the timing, the parents must all be perfect. If that means choosing the wrong gender, so be it; that can be corrected later.

Unfortunately, an Indigo Child's ability to perceive the true nature of things will cause them great bodily discomfort which they might not have anticipated, if the gender is indeed incorrect. It is therefore in their best interest to correct this surgically as soon as possible, lest their potential be squandered on just coping with it.

I'd like to start off by saying I don't believe in this stuff. But I'll run with it anyway for the sake of discussion.

I've always been uncomfortable "being in a body." Bodily sensations have all been strange to me. Most people just "accept" these sensations. For me, it's pretty much always been constant overstimulation when my body does what most people consider "normal." My mom thinks my gender dysphoria is my way of misinterpreting my own discomfort of being in a body in general. :/

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Blairnensha

Recursive Paradox

Don't you normally say trans chick and trans dude, already separating them cuz of the nickname words? I don't think you've ever used standard terminology for any of this. XD

No. I'm pretty careful to avoid "chick" and I usually use "guy" instead of "dude" because I think "dude" sounds stoner-y. Above all, I prefer 'transpeepz'. But my obsessive compulsion not to reuse words where possible may overcome any of these.

I love the word chick! What's wrong with the word chick? crying

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This morning I ran into "tranny porn" though, and the "transwoman" had a small d**k and no testicles... However she was getting madly sucked off but a gay man and ******** by another. I just don't see how she could really identify as a woman when she's being ******** as a man with tits.

Remember how much you liked getting ******** in your vag? Notice how you're still completely a guy? Yeah. Extend this idea. It isn't hard, really.

[Blairnensha]

Hint: that was for your mom, Syn

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Captain Verd

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Captain Verd

Syndactyly

This morning I ran into "tranny porn" though, and the "transwoman" had a small d**k and no testicles... However she was getting madly sucked off but a gay man and ******** by another. I just don't see how she could really identify as a woman when she's being ******** as a man with tits.

I think we've had this discussion before. How does any transsexual have sex using their biological organs?

Therein lies a double standard. It's perfectly okay when a transwoman sticks her fat c**k inside of someone, but it's just not cool when a transman gets ******** in the p***y. He's no longer a man if he does. rolleyes

Is that a double standard? I guess I wouldn't know.

Yes.

Transwoman can have sex with her d**k and still be a woman.
Transman can have sex with his p***y, but he won't be considered a man.

The woman gets the freedom to use her p***s, call it a "big c**t," but because "normal" men don't have "little vaginas" or anything like that, transmen have nothing on a male body to refer back to, "Oh, I'm just getting ******** in my nutsack" doesn't work because the labia majora are analogous to the scrotum. There is nothing in a male that is analogous to the v****a.

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Captain Verd

Syndactyly

I am not going to dig back into the thread but you support a lot of the negative and hateful stereotypes and claim they're "the truth."

Do you remember the conversation about chivalry in this thread? I don't think Recursive thinks a lot of the things she says are sexist, even if they are.

I forget a lot of things...

But yeah, I'd agree with that observation.

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Blairnensha

Hint: that was for your mom, Syn

Trust me, she already knows all of that information and agrees with it, she just makes "exceptions" for transgender people. "Oh, they're different."

[Blairnensha]

Recursive Paradox

Blairnensha

Recursive Paradox

Don't you normally say trans chick and trans dude, already separating them cuz of the nickname words? I don't think you've ever used standard terminology for any of this. XD

No. I'm pretty careful to avoid "chick" and I usually use "guy" instead of "dude" because I think "dude" sounds stoner-y. Above all, I prefer 'transpeepz'. But my obsessive compulsion not to reuse words where possible may overcome any of these.

I love the word chick! What's wrong with the word chick? crying

I dunno, it's like, demeaning and objectifying and stuff I guess?

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Recursive Paradox

Syndactyly

This morning I ran into "tranny porn" though, and the "transwoman" had a small d**k and no testicles... However she was getting madly sucked off but a gay man and ******** by another. I just don't see how she could really identify as a woman when she's being ******** as a man with tits.

Remember how much you liked getting ******** in your vag? Notice how you're still completely a guy? Yeah. Extend this idea. It isn't hard, really.

It was something I only did a couple of times. The dysphoria that followed it was not worth the vaginal sex.

[Captain Verd]

Recursive Paradox

Remember how much you liked getting ******** in your vag? Notice how you're still completely a guy? Yeah. Extend this idea. It isn't hard, really.

Agreed. Although Syn says there is a double standard against men getting sexed in their vaginas, it seems he is applying a version of that to women who have their dicks sucked.

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Captain Verd

Recursive Paradox

Is it really so hard to split the words? Nope. It's ******** easy. And it has a real benefit.

If we don't see the benefit, is it okay for us to keep the word spaceless?

"I don't see the benefit to paying my taxes, so I'll just stop."

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Is it really so hard to just get over the space?

When people have used it as a weapon against me, fairly hard. It's sorta like trying to get over the word shemale being used against me in jokes when folk have actually used it against me as a wounding method.

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Even if I did expand my mind to go, "Oh I guess they are still woman if they ******** with their p***s" that wouldn't change the fact that 99.999999% of everyone seems to think that a transman who lets someone ******** his p***y isn't really a man. The double standard would still exist, no matter how much I opened my mind. Opening my mind changes nothing, people still think it's totally cool and great and sexy for a transwoman to ******** a guy in the a**.