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people have different beliefs..O.o
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If you'd like to know why surgery is so important, think of this:
If you lost you p***s, and were forced to act like a girl for the rest of your life, you probably wouldn't like that very much. It's the same with us, except we got a p***s that didn't belong there in the first place. The difference between someone who believes their Napoleon and a transsexual is that the person who thinks they're Napoleon truly believes they're Napoleon in every way. Transsexuals realize that they exist in a male/female shell, but are uncomfortable and distressed by that fact. People who are delusional do not realize what is wrong. They believe that every part of them is Napoleon. The surgery itself IS for aesthetics, but the hormones are not. Hormones will bring on a sense of euphoria for transsexuals, while they'll cause depression for those happy with their current sex. But many transsexuals don't get the surgery. They don't believe they need it. And for your question if I would get brain surgery to make me a male, HELL NO. That would be hell to me. My brain is what makes me who I am, not my body. And while it would be nice to have my brain match my sex, I'd never give up what makes me who I am. |
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urashimakun890 people have different beliefs..O.o Why should peoples biggoted beliefs give them the right to make me less of a person. That's the problem. People's uneducated beliefs are making them kill people like me. I can't be safe in school because of peoples beliefs. I can't be safe in public. I can't be safe anywhere because of peoples beliefs. Why should I take that? |
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Cap_America Taineyah Cap_America So, because they're not treated in the specific manner they'd like to be treated, they go and have surgery...So far, it just sounds like a medical condition, and that these people who do so have a neurological disorder. If their brain chemistry or makeup is causing a conflict with their bodies, how is that different from someone who's clinically depressed, who's brain isn't producing enough seratonin, and who needs to be medicated for that? It's a medical treatment for a brain/body dysphasia. Or someone medicated for schizophrenia, who have ventricular enlargements and require treatment? One has a brain that's not functioning in the correct manner, and requires medication and treatment. So does the other. Or one has a body that's not functioning in the correct manner and requires medication and treatment. So does the other. The way you were talking about it, being transgendered is a very harmful thing to yourself, so much so that "Just waking up in the morning is traumatic for him because his mind does not meet his body". It sounds exactly like an illness. Trying to change someones mental gender to fit their physical sex would require changing that persons whole personality, memories, etc. You might as well do a brain transplant if you are trying to do that. We don't want to change the person, we want to heal the person. So it is more logical to change the body to fit the brains gender. Also the brains gender itself isn't what is harmful because they would be perfectly happy being able to express it. That is why I don't think its a mental illness. Its not the mind its the body. |
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CrystalStarLight77 Cap_America Taineyah Cap_America So, because they're not treated in the specific manner they'd like to be treated, they go and have surgery...So far, it just sounds like a medical condition, and that these people who do so have a neurological disorder. If their brain chemistry or makeup is causing a conflict with their bodies, how is that different from someone who's clinically depressed, who's brain isn't producing enough seratonin, and who needs to be medicated for that? It's a medical treatment for a brain/body dysphasia. Or someone medicated for schizophrenia, who have ventricular enlargements and require treatment? One has a brain that's not functioning in the correct manner, and requires medication and treatment. So does the other. Or one has a body that's not functioning in the correct manner and requires medication and treatment. So does the other. The way you were talking about it, being transgendered is a very harmful thing to yourself, so much so that "Just waking up in the morning is traumatic for him because his mind does not meet his body". It sounds exactly like an illness. Trying to change someones mental gender to fit their physical sex would require changing that persons whole personality, memories, etc. You might as well do a brain transplant if you are trying to do that. We don't want to change the person, we want to heal the person. So it is more logical to change the body to fit the brains gender. Also the brains gender itself isn't what is harmful because they would be perfectly happy being able to express it. That is why I don't think its a mental illness. Its not the mind its the body. Why would changing their "mental gender" change their personality, memories, etc? What's NOT changing the person when you're opening them up, readjusting their genitals, giving them chemicals that will change their voice and demeanour, etc. Also, does anyone know the lifespan of a transsexual person? I know that constant testosterone injections will damage the liver and all that horrible stuff. |
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Cap_America CrystalStarLight77 Cap_America Taineyah Cap_America So, because they're not treated in the specific manner they'd like to be treated, they go and have surgery...So far, it just sounds like a medical condition, and that these people who do so have a neurological disorder. If their brain chemistry or makeup is causing a conflict with their bodies, how is that different from someone who's clinically depressed, who's brain isn't producing enough seratonin, and who needs to be medicated for that? It's a medical treatment for a brain/body dysphasia. Or someone medicated for schizophrenia, who have ventricular enlargements and require treatment? One has a brain that's not functioning in the correct manner, and requires medication and treatment. So does the other. Or one has a body that's not functioning in the correct manner and requires medication and treatment. So does the other. The way you were talking about it, being transgendered is a very harmful thing to yourself, so much so that "Just waking up in the morning is traumatic for him because his mind does not meet his body". It sounds exactly like an illness. Trying to change someones mental gender to fit their physical sex would require changing that persons whole personality, memories, etc. You might as well do a brain transplant if you are trying to do that. We don't want to change the person, we want to heal the person. So it is more logical to change the body to fit the brains gender. Also the brains gender itself isn't what is harmful because they would be perfectly happy being able to express it. That is why I don't think its a mental illness. Its not the mind its the body. Why would changing their "mental gender" change their personality, memories, etc? What's NOT changing the person when you're opening them up, readjusting their genitals, giving them chemicals that will change their voice and demeanour, etc. Also, does anyone know the lifespan of a transsexual person? I know that constant testosterone injections will damage the liver and all that horrible stuff. Trust me, it's better than being in the wrong body. Chemicals can't change the person. It only changes what they look like. And gender involves so much of ones pesonality that it's not even funny. I like clothes shopping, skirts, dresses, and cute shoes. That wouldn't translate well to being part of a male mind. |
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Chaotic Fury Cap_America CrystalStarLight77 Cap_America Taineyah Cap_America So, because they're not treated in the specific manner they'd like to be treated, they go and have surgery...So far, it just sounds like a medical condition, and that these people who do so have a neurological disorder. If their brain chemistry or makeup is causing a conflict with their bodies, how is that different from someone who's clinically depressed, who's brain isn't producing enough seratonin, and who needs to be medicated for that? It's a medical treatment for a brain/body dysphasia. Or someone medicated for schizophrenia, who have ventricular enlargements and require treatment? One has a brain that's not functioning in the correct manner, and requires medication and treatment. So does the other. Or one has a body that's not functioning in the correct manner and requires medication and treatment. So does the other. The way you were talking about it, being transgendered is a very harmful thing to yourself, so much so that "Just waking up in the morning is traumatic for him because his mind does not meet his body". It sounds exactly like an illness. Trying to change someones mental gender to fit their physical sex would require changing that persons whole personality, memories, etc. You might as well do a brain transplant if you are trying to do that. We don't want to change the person, we want to heal the person. So it is more logical to change the body to fit the brains gender. Also the brains gender itself isn't what is harmful because they would be perfectly happy being able to express it. That is why I don't think its a mental illness. Its not the mind its the body. Why would changing their "mental gender" change their personality, memories, etc? What's NOT changing the person when you're opening them up, readjusting their genitals, giving them chemicals that will change their voice and demeanour, etc. Also, does anyone know the lifespan of a transsexual person? I know that constant testosterone injections will damage the liver and all that horrible stuff. Trust me, it's better than being in the wrong body. Chemicals can't change the person. It only changes what they look like. And gender involves so much of ones pesonality that it's not even funny. I like clothes shopping, skirts, dresses, and cute shoes. That wouldn't translate well to being part of a male mind. I know plenty of men that like shopping. If a male liked shopping for skirts and dresses and WEARING skirts and dresses, I wouldn't think of him as any less male, I'd think of him as somewhat more random when it came to fashion. If you don't have a male mind, how can you comment on what would be a good part of it? |
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Cap_America Chaotic Fury Cap_America CrystalStarLight77 Cap_America One has a brain that's not functioning in the correct manner, and requires medication and treatment. So does the other. Or one has a body that's not functioning in the correct manner and requires medication and treatment. So does the other. The way you were talking about it, being transgendered is a very harmful thing to yourself, so much so that "Just waking up in the morning is traumatic for him because his mind does not meet his body". It sounds exactly like an illness. Trying to change someones mental gender to fit their physical sex would require changing that persons whole personality, memories, etc. You might as well do a brain transplant if you are trying to do that. We don't want to change the person, we want to heal the person. So it is more logical to change the body to fit the brains gender. Also the brains gender itself isn't what is harmful because they would be perfectly happy being able to express it. That is why I don't think its a mental illness. Its not the mind its the body. Why would changing their "mental gender" change their personality, memories, etc? What's NOT changing the person when you're opening them up, readjusting their genitals, giving them chemicals that will change their voice and demeanour, etc. Also, does anyone know the lifespan of a transsexual person? I know that constant testosterone injections will damage the liver and all that horrible stuff. Trust me, it's better than being in the wrong body. Chemicals can't change the person. It only changes what they look like. And gender involves so much of ones pesonality that it's not even funny. I like clothes shopping, skirts, dresses, and cute shoes. That wouldn't translate well to being part of a male mind. I know plenty of men that like shopping. If a male liked shopping for skirts and dresses and WEARING skirts and dresses, I wouldn't think of him as any less male, I'd think of him as somewhat more random when it came to fashion. If you don't have a male mind, how can you comment on what would be a good part of it? And to be clear, chemicals CAN indeed change the person. Testosterone injections make people more aggressive and hostile. Estrogen injections can lead to dementia in post-menopausal patients, and cancer in pretty much everyone else.. |
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Cap_America CrystalStarLight77 Cap_America Taineyah Cap_America So, because they're not treated in the specific manner they'd like to be treated, they go and have surgery...So far, it just sounds like a medical condition, and that these people who do so have a neurological disorder. If their brain chemistry or makeup is causing a conflict with their bodies, how is that different from someone who's clinically depressed, who's brain isn't producing enough seratonin, and who needs to be medicated for that? It's a medical treatment for a brain/body dysphasia. Or someone medicated for schizophrenia, who have ventricular enlargements and require treatment? One has a brain that's not functioning in the correct manner, and requires medication and treatment. So does the other. Or one has a body that's not functioning in the correct manner and requires medication and treatment. So does the other. The way you were talking about it, being transgendered is a very harmful thing to yourself, so much so that "Just waking up in the morning is traumatic for him because his mind does not meet his body". It sounds exactly like an illness. Trying to change someones mental gender to fit their physical sex would require changing that persons whole personality, memories, etc. You might as well do a brain transplant if you are trying to do that. We don't want to change the person, we want to heal the person. So it is more logical to change the body to fit the brains gender. Also the brains gender itself isn't what is harmful because they would be perfectly happy being able to express it. That is why I don't think its a mental illness. Its not the mind its the body. Why would changing their "mental gender" change their personality, memories, etc? Someones mental gender is a core part of someones personality, from someones interests, emotions, how they relate to things. If you made them think like the other gender they would still remember what is was like to think like the gender they were before, which would just put them at odds even more with themselves. Quote: What's NOT changing the person when you're opening them up, readjusting their genitals, giving them chemicals that will change their voice and demeanour, etc. It only changes their physical parts, while someones mentality and gender identity is more important because its how someone defines themselves as and embraces the world around them. Quote: Also, does anyone know the lifespan of a transsexual person? I know that constant testosterone injections will damage the liver and all that horrible stuff. Only if you do it in the wrong way, that is why transsexuals only take the amount a professional endocrinologist (hormone doctor) recommends. |
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Cap_America Chaotic Fury Cap_America CrystalStarLight77 Cap_America One has a brain that's not functioning in the correct manner, and requires medication and treatment. So does the other. Or one has a body that's not functioning in the correct manner and requires medication and treatment. So does the other. The way you were talking about it, being transgendered is a very harmful thing to yourself, so much so that "Just waking up in the morning is traumatic for him because his mind does not meet his body". It sounds exactly like an illness. Trying to change someones mental gender to fit their physical sex would require changing that persons whole personality, memories, etc. You might as well do a brain transplant if you are trying to do that. We don't want to change the person, we want to heal the person. So it is more logical to change the body to fit the brains gender. Also the brains gender itself isn't what is harmful because they would be perfectly happy being able to express it. That is why I don't think its a mental illness. Its not the mind its the body. Why would changing their "mental gender" change their personality, memories, etc? What's NOT changing the person when you're opening them up, readjusting their genitals, giving them chemicals that will change their voice and demeanour, etc. Also, does anyone know the lifespan of a transsexual person? I know that constant testosterone injections will damage the liver and all that horrible stuff. Trust me, it's better than being in the wrong body. Chemicals can't change the person. It only changes what they look like. And gender involves so much of ones pesonality that it's not even funny. I like clothes shopping, skirts, dresses, and cute shoes. That wouldn't translate well to being part of a male mind. I know plenty of men that like shopping. If a male liked shopping for skirts and dresses and WEARING skirts and dresses, I wouldn't think of him as any less male, I'd think of him as somewhat more random when it came to fashion. If you don't have a male mind, how can you comment on what would be a good part of it? Because I've been told what I can and can't do my entire life, because it was too "girly". And you may not think of someone as less of a man, but you are not society. Society isn't very accepting of crossdressers, and transsexuals actually have a better chance than blatant crosdressers. |
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Chaotic Fury Cap_America Chaotic Fury Cap_America CrystalStarLight77 Cap_America One has a brain that's not functioning in the correct manner, and requires medication and treatment. So does the other. Or one has a body that's not functioning in the correct manner and requires medication and treatment. So does the other. The way you were talking about it, being transgendered is a very harmful thing to yourself, so much so that "Just waking up in the morning is traumatic for him because his mind does not meet his body". It sounds exactly like an illness. Trying to change someones mental gender to fit their physical sex would require changing that persons whole personality, memories, etc. You might as well do a brain transplant if you are trying to do that. We don't want to change the person, we want to heal the person. So it is more logical to change the body to fit the brains gender. Also the brains gender itself isn't what is harmful because they would be perfectly happy being able to express it. That is why I don't think its a mental illness. Its not the mind its the body. Why would changing their "mental gender" change their personality, memories, etc? What's NOT changing the person when you're opening them up, readjusting their genitals, giving them chemicals that will change their voice and demeanour, etc. Also, does anyone know the lifespan of a transsexual person? I know that constant testosterone injections will damage the liver and all that horrible stuff. Trust me, it's better than being in the wrong body. Chemicals can't change the person. It only changes what they look like. And gender involves so much of ones pesonality that it's not even funny. I like clothes shopping, skirts, dresses, and cute shoes. That wouldn't translate well to being part of a male mind. I know plenty of men that like shopping. If a male liked shopping for skirts and dresses and WEARING skirts and dresses, I wouldn't think of him as any less male, I'd think of him as somewhat more random when it came to fashion. If you don't have a male mind, how can you comment on what would be a good part of it? Because I've been told what I can and can't do my entire life, because it was too "girly". And you may not think of someone as less of a man, but you are not society. Society isn't very accepting of crossdressers, and transsexuals actually have a better chance than blatant crosdressers. So that's a societal problem, not an inherent deficiency in the male brain. |
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Cap_America Chaotic Fury Cap_America Chaotic Fury Cap_America Why would changing their "mental gender" change their personality, memories, etc? What's NOT changing the person when you're opening them up, readjusting their genitals, giving them chemicals that will change their voice and demeanour, etc. Also, does anyone know the lifespan of a transsexual person? I know that constant testosterone injections will damage the liver and all that horrible stuff. Trust me, it's better than being in the wrong body. Chemicals can't change the person. It only changes what they look like. And gender involves so much of ones pesonality that it's not even funny. I like clothes shopping, skirts, dresses, and cute shoes. That wouldn't translate well to being part of a male mind. I know plenty of men that like shopping. If a male liked shopping for skirts and dresses and WEARING skirts and dresses, I wouldn't think of him as any less male, I'd think of him as somewhat more random when it came to fashion. If you don't have a male mind, how can you comment on what would be a good part of it? Because I've been told what I can and can't do my entire life, because it was too "girly". And you may not think of someone as less of a man, but you are not society. Society isn't very accepting of crossdressers, and transsexuals actually have a better chance than blatant crosdressers. So that's a societal problem, not an inherent deficiency in the male brain. But as many other have said before, we don't have male brains. That's why it's so hard for us. We have brains of the opposite sex. It's not a lack of one thing in the brain, it's a complete opposite. |
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Chaotic Fury Cap_America Chaotic Fury Cap_America Chaotic Fury Cap_America Why would changing their "mental gender" change their personality, memories, etc? What's NOT changing the person when you're opening them up, readjusting their genitals, giving them chemicals that will change their voice and demeanour, etc. Also, does anyone know the lifespan of a transsexual person? I know that constant testosterone injections will damage the liver and all that horrible stuff. Trust me, it's better than being in the wrong body. Chemicals can't change the person. It only changes what they look like. And gender involves so much of ones pesonality that it's not even funny. I like clothes shopping, skirts, dresses, and cute shoes. That wouldn't translate well to being part of a male mind. I know plenty of men that like shopping. If a male liked shopping for skirts and dresses and WEARING skirts and dresses, I wouldn't think of him as any less male, I'd think of him as somewhat more random when it came to fashion. If you don't have a male mind, how can you comment on what would be a good part of it? Because I've been told what I can and can't do my entire life, because it was too "girly". And you may not think of someone as less of a man, but you are not society. Society isn't very accepting of crossdressers, and transsexuals actually have a better chance than blatant crosdressers. So that's a societal problem, not an inherent deficiency in the male brain. But as many other have said before, we don't have male brains. That's why it's so hard for us. We have brains of the opposite sex. It's not a lack of one thing in the brain, it's a complete opposite. Once again, if you do not have a male brain, why are you commenting on what "doesn't work as a part of it?" When you say "Buying dresses isn't a part of a man's mind" You're just enforcing that stereotype. If you want to change your genitals and appearance surgically because you really really want to, or because you don't ENJOY living life as a man or a woman, that much I can understand. But saying that somewhere, deep down, you're REALLY a member of the opposite sex is akin to delusion. |
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Cap_America Chaotic Fury Cap_America Chaotic Fury Cap_America I know plenty of men that like shopping. If a male liked shopping for skirts and dresses and WEARING skirts and dresses, I wouldn't think of him as any less male, I'd think of him as somewhat more random when it came to fashion. If you don't have a male mind, how can you comment on what would be a good part of it? Because I've been told what I can and can't do my entire life, because it was too "girly". And you may not think of someone as less of a man, but you are not society. Society isn't very accepting of crossdressers, and transsexuals actually have a better chance than blatant crosdressers. So that's a societal problem, not an inherent deficiency in the male brain. But as many other have said before, we don't have male brains. That's why it's so hard for us. We have brains of the opposite sex. It's not a lack of one thing in the brain, it's a complete opposite. Once again, if you do not have a male brain, why are you commenting on what "doesn't work as a part of it?" When you say "Buying dresses isn't a part of a man's mind" You're just enforcing that stereotype. If you want to change your genitals and appearance surgically because you really really want to, or because you don't ENJOY living life as a man or a woman, that much I can understand. But saying that somewhere, deep down, you're REALLY a member of the opposite sex is akin to delusion. Transsexuals are not saying they are completely biologically the other gender so it has nothing to do with delusion. They know what bodies they have. Just like the millions of people in America alone born intersexually where you can see on the outside of there body that they are mixed in gender, transsexual people are mostly just another variant of that. They are born gender mixed with the biological brain of a woman inside the body of a man and vise versa. Which gives them the gender identity of a woman. While at the same time, with the many aspects of gender, the gender identity is the most defining part because it is who the person defines themselves as. So male to females are essentially female. |
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CrystalStarLight77 Cap_America Chaotic Fury Cap_America Chaotic Fury Cap_America I know plenty of men that like shopping. If a male liked shopping for skirts and dresses and WEARING skirts and dresses, I wouldn't think of him as any less male, I'd think of him as somewhat more random when it came to fashion. If you don't have a male mind, how can you comment on what would be a good part of it? Because I've been told what I can and can't do my entire life, because it was too "girly". And you may not think of someone as less of a man, but you are not society. Society isn't very accepting of crossdressers, and transsexuals actually have a better chance than blatant crosdressers. So that's a societal problem, not an inherent deficiency in the male brain. But as many other have said before, we don't have male brains. That's why it's so hard for us. We have brains of the opposite sex. It's not a lack of one thing in the brain, it's a complete opposite. Once again, if you do not have a male brain, why are you commenting on what "doesn't work as a part of it?" When you say "Buying dresses isn't a part of a man's mind" You're just enforcing that stereotype. If you want to change your genitals and appearance surgically because you really really want to, or because you don't ENJOY living life as a man or a woman, that much I can understand. But saying that somewhere, deep down, you're REALLY a member of the opposite sex is akin to delusion. Transsexuals are not saying they are completely biologically the other gender so it has nothing to do with delusion. Just like the millions of people in America alone born intersexually where you can see on the outside of there body that they are mixed in gender, transsexual people are mostly just another variant of that. They are born gender mixed with the biological brain of a woman inside the body of a man. Which gives them the gender identity of a woman. While at the same time, with the many aspects of gender, the gender identity is the most defining part because it is who the person defines themselves as. If that's true, if the problem comes down to brain chemistry and structure, thenit's a neurological disorder or a non-beneficial mutation akin to intersexuality, downs syndrome, or the ilk. |
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