To fight what we do not want to become: The Empire Quote

Do you believe it's easier to fall from grace (and become what you are not) then it is to be in grace (and stay true to what you believe)? (BE HONEST)

Agree	72.4%	[ 21 ]
Disagree	27.6%	[ 8 ]
Total Votes:			[ 29 ]

[Valkyrie Of Heaven]

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‎"To fight the Empire is to be infected by its derangement ... Whoever defeats the Empire becomes the Empire; it proliferates like a virus ... thereby it becomes its enemies." - The Empire Never Ended - Philip K. d**k

How do we fight the empire if one becomes infected by it?

"Because it's a warning about not becoming what you are against. It's surprisingly easy to fall into the same pitfalls that those you are against have fallen. Visionary thinking (power, sex, money) leads to this."

Discuss (and related topics).

fairly good quote. i mean we broke away from great britian because we didn't want to be ruled over. now look at us.

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America is not an empire. To say that so emphatically in a factual manner just serves to make you look uninformed about the definition of "empire".

The United States is a first world power, but it just doesn't meet the definition of an empire.

An empire rules over countries, often transcontinental in scope. The U.S. government rules over provinces within it's own continent. (except for Hawaii)

The U.S. has a lot of problems and needs to improve, but using the word "empire" as a derogatory slander just doesn't work because an "empire" doesn't have to be "evil" and the U.S. doesn't even meet the definition of the word.

There is more then one type of Empire, nor did I bluntly say "america is an empire."

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‎"To fight the Empire is to be infected by its derangement ... Whoever defeats the Empire becomes the Empire; it proliferates like a virus ... thereby it becomes its enemies." - The Empire Never Ended - Philip K. d**k

How do we fight the empire if one becomes infected by it?

"Because it's a warning about not becoming what you are against. It's surprisingly easy to fall into the same pitfalls that those you are against have fallen. Visionary thinking (power, sex, money) leads to this."

Discuss (and related topics).

fairly good quote. i mean we broke away from great britian because we didn't want to be ruled over. now look at us.

It's so very sad what this nation has turned out to be.

[AsuraSyn]

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‎"To fight the Empire is to be infected by its derangement ... Whoever defeats the Empire becomes the Empire; it proliferates like a virus ... thereby it becomes its enemies." - The Empire Never Ended - Philip K. d**k

How do we fight the empire if one becomes infected by it?

"Because it's a warning about not becoming what you are against. It's surprisingly easy to fall into the same pitfalls that those you are against have fallen. Visionary thinking (power, sex, money) leads to this."

Discuss (and related topics).

fairly good quote. i mean we broke away from great britian because we didn't want to be ruled over. now look at us.

It's so very sad what this nation has turned out to be.

"All roads lead to Rome."

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‎"To fight the Empire is to be infected by its derangement ... Whoever defeats the Empire becomes the Empire; it proliferates like a virus ... thereby it becomes its enemies." - The Empire Never Ended - Philip K. d**k

How do we fight the empire if one becomes infected by it?

"Because it's a warning about not becoming what you are against. It's surprisingly easy to fall into the same pitfalls that those you are against have fallen. Visionary thinking (power, sex, money) leads to this."

Discuss (and related topics).

fairly good quote. i mean we broke away from great britian because we didn't want to be ruled over. now look at us.

It's so very sad what this nation has turned out to be.

"All roads lead to Rome."

I ******** love that quote. Where is that from?

[AsuraSyn]

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‎"To fight the Empire is to be infected by its derangement ... Whoever defeats the Empire becomes the Empire; it proliferates like a virus ... thereby it becomes its enemies." - The Empire Never Ended - Philip K. d**k

How do we fight the empire if one becomes infected by it?

"Because it's a warning about not becoming what you are against. It's surprisingly easy to fall into the same pitfalls that those you are against have fallen. Visionary thinking (power, sex, money) leads to this."

Discuss (and related topics).

fairly good quote. i mean we broke away from great britian because we didn't want to be ruled over. now look at us.

It's so very sad what this nation has turned out to be.

"All roads lead to Rome."

I ******** love that quote. Where is that from?

Not sure who used it first but originally it was used to illustrate that the Roman Empire built the first major system of roads, which also allowed them to expand their empire by making travel easier.
In this vernacular, however, it's intended to show how we can't avoid going back to the original format, Western anyways, of being an empire.

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‎"To fight the Empire is to be infected by its derangement ... Whoever defeats the Empire becomes the Empire; it proliferates like a virus ... thereby it becomes its enemies." - The Empire Never Ended - Philip K. d**k

How do we fight the empire if one becomes infected by it?

"Because it's a warning about not becoming what you are against. It's surprisingly easy to fall into the same pitfalls that those you are against have fallen. Visionary thinking (power, sex, money) leads to this."

Discuss (and related topics).

fairly good quote. i mean we broke away from great britian because we didn't want to be ruled over. now look at us.

It's so very sad what this nation has turned out to be.

"All roads lead to Rome."

I ******** love that quote. Where is that from?

Not sure who used it first but originally it was used to illustrate that the Roman Empire built the first major system of roads, which also allowed them to expand their empire by making travel easier.
In this vernacular, however, it's intended to show how we can't avoid going back to the original format, Western anyways, of being an empire.

I see that's a pretty wonderful explanation. I think it totally applies to today's societies in ways, like America.

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It's so very sad what this nation has turned out to be.

"All roads lead to Rome."

I ******** love that quote. Where is that from?

Not sure who used it first but originally it was used to illustrate that the Roman Empire built the first major system of roads, which also allowed them to expand their empire by making travel easier.
In this vernacular, however, it's intended to show how we can't avoid going back to the original format, Western anyways, of being an empire.

I see that's a pretty wonderful explanation. I think it totally applies to today's societies in ways, like America.

True. Only the "civilized" nations even have adequate road systems, if we're being literal, which, incidentally, helps keep the third world in such a s**t condition. Kinda hard to build a structured society if there's no basic infrastructure. But it's also not flashy enough for anyone to bother with. Giving vaccines to African villages is a good soundbite, building them roads or sewers, not so much.
Now, metaphorically, New York has often been labeled the new Rome, and in many ways it is. Most of the world's trading is done there, and thus, the seat of wealth resides in Wall Street. Invariably, the smallest, most minute advanced proceed only via the whim of stock traders. One can hardly become a major corporation if one is bought out and gutted to make a quick payday. Such is life. Always has been, always will be. Unfortunately, as I'll likely be explaining in numerous threads from hereon, we've reached a technological point where we should've phased out monetary systems a while ago, which is the true reason why the global economy is in the toilet. This simply won't happen, however, so long as "Rome" holds sway.
Wealth is control. Control is power.
"He with power, trust it not. He who seek it, need it not."

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It's so very sad what this nation has turned out to be.

"All roads lead to Rome."

I ******** love that quote. Where is that from?

Not sure who used it first but originally it was used to illustrate that the Roman Empire built the first major system of roads, which also allowed them to expand their empire by making travel easier.
In this vernacular, however, it's intended to show how we can't avoid going back to the original format, Western anyways, of being an empire.

I see that's a pretty wonderful explanation. I think it totally applies to today's societies in ways, like America.

True. Only the "civilized" nations even have adequate road systems, if we're being literal, which, incidentally, helps keep the third world in such a s**t condition. Kinda hard to build a structured society if there's no basic infrastructure. But it's also not flashy enough for anyone to bother with. Giving vaccines to African villages is a good soundbite, building them roads or sewers, not so much.
Now, metaphorically, New York has often been labeled the new Rome, and in many ways it is. Most of the world's trading is done there, and thus, the seat of wealth resides in Wall Street. Invariably, the smallest, most minute advanced proceed only via the whim of stock traders. One can hardly become a major corporation if one is bought out and gutted to make a quick payday. Such is life. Always has been, always will be. Unfortunately, as I'll likely be explaining in numerous threads from hereon, we've reached a technological point where we should've phased out monetary systems a while ago, which is the true reason why the global economy is in the toilet. This simply won't happen, however, so long as "Rome" holds sway.
Wealth is control. Control is power.
"He with power, trust it not. He who seek it, need it not."

Thanks so much for the interesting information. I find these topics fascinating. Where do you get your quotes from! I like how you talk and they way you say things.

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I ******** love that quote. Where is that from?

Not sure who used it first but originally it was used to illustrate that the Roman Empire built the first major system of roads, which also allowed them to expand their empire by making travel easier.
In this vernacular, however, it's intended to show how we can't avoid going back to the original format, Western anyways, of being an empire.

I see that's a pretty wonderful explanation. I think it totally applies to today's societies in ways, like America.

True. Only the "civilized" nations even have adequate road systems, if we're being literal, which, incidentally, helps keep the third world in such a s**t condition. Kinda hard to build a structured society if there's no basic infrastructure. But it's also not flashy enough for anyone to bother with. Giving vaccines to African villages is a good soundbite, building them roads or sewers, not so much.
Now, metaphorically, New York has often been labeled the new Rome, and in many ways it is. Most of the world's trading is done there, and thus, the seat of wealth resides in Wall Street. Invariably, the smallest, most minute advanced proceed only via the whim of stock traders. One can hardly become a major corporation if one is bought out and gutted to make a quick payday. Such is life. Always has been, always will be. Unfortunately, as I'll likely be explaining in numerous threads from hereon, we've reached a technological point where we should've phased out monetary systems a while ago, which is the true reason why the global economy is in the toilet. This simply won't happen, however, so long as "Rome" holds sway.
Wealth is control. Control is power.
"He with power, trust it not. He who seek it, need it not."

Thanks so much for the interesting information. I find these topics fascinating. Where do you get your quotes from! I like how you talk and they way you say things.

lol People always ask me about the quotes I toss around but honestly, it's been so long since I first heard them I completely forgot. I've been digging into stuff like this since I was around six or eight so I've got decades of info floating around in my head.

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I ******** love that quote. Where is that from?

Not sure who used it first but originally it was used to illustrate that the Roman Empire built the first major system of roads, which also allowed them to expand their empire by making travel easier.
In this vernacular, however, it's intended to show how we can't avoid going back to the original format, Western anyways, of being an empire.

I see that's a pretty wonderful explanation. I think it totally applies to today's societies in ways, like America.

True. Only the "civilized" nations even have adequate road systems, if we're being literal, which, incidentally, helps keep the third world in such a s**t condition. Kinda hard to build a structured society if there's no basic infrastructure. But it's also not flashy enough for anyone to bother with. Giving vaccines to African villages is a good soundbite, building them roads or sewers, not so much.
Now, metaphorically, New York has often been labeled the new Rome, and in many ways it is. Most of the world's trading is done there, and thus, the seat of wealth resides in Wall Street. Invariably, the smallest, most minute advanced proceed only via the whim of stock traders. One can hardly become a major corporation if one is bought out and gutted to make a quick payday. Such is life. Always has been, always will be. Unfortunately, as I'll likely be explaining in numerous threads from hereon, we've reached a technological point where we should've phased out monetary systems a while ago, which is the true reason why the global economy is in the toilet. This simply won't happen, however, so long as "Rome" holds sway.
Wealth is control. Control is power.
"He with power, trust it not. He who seek it, need it not."

Thanks so much for the interesting information. I find these topics fascinating. Where do you get your quotes from! I like how you talk and they way you say things.

lol People always ask me about the quotes I toss around but honestly, it's been so long since I first heard them I completely forgot. I've been digging into stuff like this since I was around six or eight so I've got decades of info floating around in my head.

Absolutely fabulous! I like you! Friend?

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"All roads lead to Rome."

And by the same observation, all roads lead away from Rome.

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AsuraSyn

"All roads lead to Rome."

And by the same observation, all roads lead away from Rome.

...Ya know... it's this kinda statement that really gets me off.
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Too true, babe, too true indeed. All a matter of perspective. Half full/half empty, etc etc.

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Haha, his name was censored.