Tacit Effigy
Well I might love my best male friend but having sex with him is just obscure and obscene.
"Obscure"...?
Also, it sounds like
someone's in denial about their sexuality.
Tacit Effigy
Sure, one might find certain people of the same sex look good, but to think that morality a concept "made up" by mankind is terrifying.
Why? I find the concept that morality is "made up" by a being more powerful than us who clearly has a temper and a childish attitude towards
everything, and demands both blood sacrifice and swift, brutal judgment upon anyone who disobeys his petty laws, and rules like a king - nay, a
tyrant - is far more terrifying than morality being a simple evolutionary development to keep humanity close to one another, to ensure the survival of the group.
What's more, I find the idea that without "God," humanity would collapse into utter chaos, to be an utter horrifying concept. Especially when atheists, and cultures who have never heard of Jesus, have shown themselves to be moral purely on their own judgment. The evidence is
against this, here. Now, I'll grant you that they have their
own religions, but many times morality has little to do with the requests from their divinities, and more to do with the simple fact that it's just not very efficient. The Golden Rule is not simply a Christian thing, it's a
human thing. It's the value of empathy. The knowledge that if everybody's going around killing, stealing, and raping, eventually you'll end up the victim.
And that's why we don't do it. Because we're not ******** four-year-olds who need to be told what to do from a parental figure. Funny thing about humans - we're sometimes dumber than we think we are. But we're also sometimes
smarter than we think we are.
Tacit Effigy
Based from what you said, we should adapt to what everyone has changed and follow the mainstream belief, morality is changeable.
Have you
seen some of the s**t in the Bible? It
totally ******** is. And this is for the better.
Tacit Effigy
Even if the majority believes that the genocide of a minority would make the world a better place, we have to adapt to that belief, let along killing of children while they're still in their wombs due to their inability of objection, their size and place. Humanity will be doomed if that were to happen.
Here's the thing about that - they wouldn't. What happened in the Holocaust was that the
minority were making the decision, and the majority either didn't know about it (think of the whole rest of the world here) or so terrified they would be next (think the German people here) that they had to play along with it. This was a situation that had little to do with morality, and more to do with
fear.
And I'm not one to go for Godwin's Law here, but... Christianity has also run on fear as the defining factor for their morality. The fear of Hell leads to being "good" people. But, like I said, for most normal humans, the fear of
retaliation from others leads to morality among others.
Or, you know, human ******** decency.
Tacit Effigy
Also how can math mistakes be immoral? How can not knowing something be immoral even though it is not a straight up lie?
Wait, when did I say
math could be immoral? (Although math can be
irrational, hurr hurr.)
Tacit Effigy
Would you consider a church that adopted Buddhist practices which contradicted with major believes of Christianity still a Christian church?
Do they still believe Jesus is God? Because yes.
And believe it or not, a
lot of Buddhist practices actually mesh well with Christianity. Seriously. What's more, the Theravada branch of Buddhism has nothing to do with the supernatural whatsoever, making it more like a philosophy. And the Mahayana school? That easily adapts to just about any local religion. It works really well for Christianity.
What's more,
Christianity itself can adapt to local flavors. Jesus, for instance, changes his race depending on who's worshipping. The holidays are largely adapted from Pagan customs in parts of the world where Christians were trying to convert. Catholic saints worked really well in Latin America, as the saints basically replaced their old gods. There's even a "
Santa Muerte." It's really quite beautiful.
Something else about humanity - we're
really adaptable. And I'd like to think that if there's a God, so is He. Because it's really not just humans, a whole shitload of nature is adaptable, and works with what it's given. Some of the most inhospitable environments on the planet still have things living there. Volcanic vents under the sea, and hot springs? Life. Parched deserts? Life. Frickin
Antarctica? Life. Australia? Life... but it'll probably kill you, hah.
Tacit Effigy
And slavery. What do you think when you see the term "slavery" today? The color of people's skin? Tell me, has the Biblical law ever, not include death penalty for "man-stealing," or forced slavery/kidnapping? Has the Bible ever, not teaching the masters to treat their slaves(bondservants) with respect and dignity?
I really wish there was a patronizing chin-on-hand emoticon I could use for times like this.
The fact still remains that the Bible teaches that one person can be the property of another. It's not about
treatment, even in America there were slave owners who treated their slaves with respect and dignity, considering them part of the family. But the concept of ownership of another human being?
That is immoral.
Suicidesoldier#1
I believe it is customary to buy a dead plant.
Hey now, let's not get morbid.
You buy a
dying plant.