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How about the story of Noah's Ark in which God kills every single human being on Earth but Noah and his wife. I can see maybe about half but every single one but two people, come on that's not very nice.



You're right. That wouldn't be very nice... however you're wrong so it doesn't matter. Noah and his wife were not the only two humans on board >.>


How many were there, anybody? I thought it was Noah, his wife and two of each animal.


You should go look it up yourself since you brought up the topic of Noah to begin with. Google is right at your fingertips... stare

However, it was 8 people. Noah and his wife, his three sons, and their wives.

He had also punished them for defying Him. Everyone but Noah's family was so twisted with evil. The Lord will soon again destroy the earth- but not with water. The Rapture will occur, wherein all believers will be taken up into Heaven with Jesus. Then the Tribulation will follow. Exactly 7 years will pass, everyone left behind will suffer, unless of course if they commit suicide, or something of the sort. Then...Boom. The earth will be destroyed, then Heaven and Hell will be filled.
God gave told them to change and what would happen if they didn't...just like he has told us now. No big surprise. They knew what was going to happen.

Just in case you guys didn't know...Noah wasn't perfect. In fact, he was an alcoholic. Wanna know why he was chosen to live? He listened to God.
mysheli
I suppose to a certain degree you're correct. The person who gives the aid has a status. "A way to a man's heart is through his stomach." That is how you gain trust from a hungry person. It's not like Christians are forcing them to harm themselves and Christianity is going to kill them. It's religion. We're not getting them to commit suicide or something.
You are, however, kiulling many aspects of their culture. Say I go into a country and convert them all to T'Pau-ism. I then tell them that becasue of my religeon, which they all believe now, they have at abandom monogamy and paractice polyandry (one women, many men). I've just destroyed an aspect of their culture. Preswuming they take this up, this leads to a restructuring of the social order and all sorts of other nasties that change the way their culture operated forever.
Then, say, I tell them that their doctor's a evil person and anyone who does his kind of thing is evil, I just destroyed native medicine, go me!
TPauSilver
mysheli
I suppose to a certain degree you're correct. The person who gives the aid has a status. "A way to a man's heart is through his stomach." That is how you gain trust from a hungry person. It's not like Christians are forcing them to harm themselves and Christianity is going to kill them. It's religion. We're not getting them to commit suicide or something.
You are, however, kiulling many aspects of their culture. Say I go into a country and convert them all to T'Pau-ism. I then tell them that becasue of my religeon, which they all believe now, they have at abandom monogamy and paractice polyandry (one women, many men). I've just destroyed an aspect of their culture. Preswuming they take this up, this leads to a restructuring of the social order and all sorts of other nasties that change the way their culture operated forever.
Then, say, I tell them that their doctor's a evil person and anyone who does his kind of thing is evil, I just destroyed native medicine, go me!
You should give people a little bit of credit. Everyone doesn't just cling onto everything as you conveniently made it seem.
Papa...Smurf
Clap, clap, claps for you. Why do most people on the globe say Christianity is offencive? They never say such about any other religion. People bashing us are only fufilling what the Lord said would happen.


That's just stupid. It's the same as me saying I sell breads and everyone calling me a baker. It's not more than logic that this would happend if some radical Christians keep proclaiming things that make Atheïst furious.
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You make a good point. But I don't really see Christianity and all those other religions as evil...as see them as a scapegoat. People are just afraid of whats really out there. They make up a high power to clear their minds of any worry or troubles of how we were really created, or why we are really here.
I personally donnot see how there can be a high power. Back when I considered myself a christian, I remember asking my youth pastor, "If God created us, Who created God?" Obviously, they didn't know how to answer that, and I walked off smiling, that is when I knew that this is just a giant lie.
The Bible is a book of fairy tales, lies if you will, to pull people in to brain wash our children into thinking that society is wrong.

My small little..whatever you want to call it...may be extreamly lame, inappropiet, usless, etc. etc. But I am just voicing my opion on Christianity.....FAKE!
Rithix
Papa...Smurf
Clap, clap, claps for you. Why do most people on the globe say Christianity is offencive? They never say such about any other religion. People bashing us are only fufilling what the Lord said would happen.


That's just stupid. It's the same as me saying I sell breads and everyone calling me a baker. It's not more than logic that this would happend if some radical Christians keep proclaiming things that make Atheïst furious.
Not all Christians are radical and guess what, Atheists say things that make Christians furious! eek
Violette PureHeart
You make a good point. But I don't really see Christianity and all those other religions as evil...as see them as a scapegoat. People are just afraid of whats really out there. They make up a high power to clear their minds of any worry or troubles of how we were really created, or why we are really here.
I personally donnot see how there can be a high power. Back when I considered myself a christian, I remember asking my youth pastor, "If God created us, Who created God?" Obviously, they didn't know how to answer that, and I walked off smiling, that is when I knew that this is just a giant lie.
The Bible is a book of fairy tales, lies if you will, to pull people in to brain wash our children into thinking that society is wrong.

My small little..whatever you want to call it...may be extreamly lame, inappropiet, usless, etc. etc. But I am just voicing my opion on Christianity.....FAKE!
There are lots of things that we don't know about God...everything isn't in the Bible. I agree, religion does help us feel better thing swhen they go wrong. In the same breath though people also use God for someone to blame when they screw up. Now the whole brainwashing thing...you have your right to your beliefs. Thanks for voicing your opinion.
mysheli
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I believe that jab at Atheists was a bit extreme. You whine about people bashing Christians, and then you sink to thier level by insulting other groups. *claps* Way to go.
I'm not sure what "jab" you're referring to. I'm simply stating that Christian Charities are more widely known and have down more for the less fortunate.


The way you said it certainly made it sound like a jab. Christian charities are more widely known, true. But there aren't as many atheists as there are Christians, and atheists don't feel the need to convert people. They also typically don't group together like Christians, nor do they typically label their charities as atheist or ostracize those of other faiths.

I've got to agree with T'Pau here~ it's really a bit of a cheap shot to offer people help AND encourage your religion at the same time. First of all, if they convert, they'll feel like they're repaying you. They'll also be more likely to convert, because they see how generous you are and what abundant wealth you have. Finally, you ARE destroying their culture. People do cling onto things quite easily. Ten languages die out each year. How many religions die out, or are syncretised, along with them?
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mysheli
DerFisch
I believe that jab at Atheists was a bit extreme. You whine about people bashing Christians, and then you sink to thier level by insulting other groups. *claps* Way to go.
I'm not sure what "jab" you're referring to. I'm simply stating that Christian Charities are more widely known and have down more for the less fortunate.


The way you said it certainly made it sound like a jab. Christian charities are more widely known, true. But there aren't as many atheists as there are Christians, and atheists don't feel the need to convert people. They also typically don't group together like Christians, nor do they typically label their charities as atheist or ostracize those of other faiths.

I've got to agree with T'Pau here~ it's really a bit of a cheap shot to offer people help AND encourage your religion at the same time. First of all, if they convert, they'll feel like they're repaying you. They'll also be more likely to convert, because they see how generous you are and what abundant wealth you have. Finally, you ARE destroying their culture. People do cling onto things quite easily. Ten languages die out each year. How many religions die out, or are syncretised, along with them?
As I said, I agree with you too...it is cheating a little bit. BUT...what do poor people have to offer? You can't say they're trying to get money from them. The missionairies are trying to spread their religion. It's their right. I'm not trying to make it sound like Christians are the only people with charities but we are the ones who are being attacked. I don't see any threads here on Gaia "Atheists Are Need To Be Taken Out of Schools" or anything of the such. In fact, I haven't seen anything going against Athiests. And unfortunately I can't change how easily people cling to things...it's a matter of choice...and it's their choice.
TPauSilver
mysheli
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mysheli
As I said before, nobody's perfect and there are quite a few nutcases out there. But please, I'm still waiting to hear about what Aetheists are doing to help anybody!
I'm an athiest, I donate money to charity and I'm a sicentist so I may one day take a more direct role by contributing to finding a cure for a disease or something. But I don't need to tell people how much of an athiest I am and how athieism is the only true and moral path while I'm doing it.
I'm glad you donate to charity and such. I commend you on having the intelligence to be a scientist. Trying to spread our religion is part of Christianity. If it's not part of Athiesm it's you and your religions choice.
But why should you be alowed to do it thruogh the guise of aid? Why should you be allowed to go into a country and preach at them while you hand out aid? "I want to because I interpret my religeon as saying I can" isn't good enough, I'm afraid. Linking it with aid is dangerous because the person who is giving the aid has a kind of status and respectability in the community becuase they're able to distribute this aid. Therefore this gives them credability that they might not otherwsie have and an unfair advantage.

Also, again, this is historical. Missionaries have withheald aid unless the person who needed it converted. That IS underhand.


You cannot understand, because you don't believe in God I presume. =/

They're not using aid as a pretext. The people that go there have the right to say Christ sent them, because He did. A good Christian, I believe, should give credit to God for anything good he does. God gave us this gift, and it's only fair we praise Him for it. God gave them compassion, compelled them to do this, and so they tell everyone. When you save someone's life, or make an A+ on a subject you're failing in, you want to tell other people, don't you?

Telling someone they're selfish for risking their lives for others in the name of God and Love is just cruel. Get the stick out of yer a**, plz.
OK, I am a christian as such, but I try to be much more christian than any of the christian church's. I have severe problems with evangelism despite being directly descended from the founder of the salvation army (a large british evangelist movement) But I would put all of that aside if people just stopped religion batering or at least get out of the hair of the Christians and the Wicca, who are the two main candidates. b***h about Bhuddism or Hinduism or Zoroastrianism for a bit, it's get tiring always being on the defensive.
TPauSilver
mysheli
I suppose to a certain degree you're correct. The person who gives the aid has a status. "A way to a man's heart is through his stomach." That is how you gain trust from a hungry person. It's not like Christians are forcing them to harm themselves and Christianity is going to kill them. It's religion. We're not getting them to commit suicide or something.
You are, however, kiulling many aspects of their culture. Say I go into a country and convert them all to T'Pau-ism. I then tell them that becasue of my religeon, which they all believe now, they have at abandom monogamy and paractice polyandry (one women, many men). I've just destroyed an aspect of their culture. Preswuming they take this up, this leads to a restructuring of the social order and all sorts of other nasties that change the way their culture operated forever.
Then, say, I tell them that their doctor's a evil person and anyone who does his kind of thing is evil, I just destroyed native medicine, go me!


Well the death of culture and being replaces by another is nothing new. It has been like that since man discovered the advantages of orginizing a military of some kind. Cultures are like anaimals if the cannot adapt or ajust to the current siutaion or compete against other competitors it dies as simple as that. No culture can last for ever no matter how beautiful and peacful it is.
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mysheli
Rithix
Papa...Smurf
Clap, clap, claps for you. Why do most people on the globe say Christianity is offencive? They never say such about any other religion. People bashing us are only fufilling what the Lord said would happen.


That's just stupid. It's the same as me saying I sell breads and everyone calling me a baker. It's not more than logic that this would happend if some radical Christians keep proclaiming things that make Atheïst furious.
Not all Christians are radical and guess what, Atheists say things that make Christians furious! eek


People just generalise. Like I said, both side got some bad guys. I mean - I'm ok with religion but they shouldn't push it onto other people just like Atheïsts shouldn't try to abolish religions.
Atheists aren't against Christianity, only a few who are atheists are. The reason you don't hear about Atheist groups is because they are under the name of Humanist. Look up Humanist aid in google or something else you prefer.

Those guys who wrote "One nation under god" did it because the Soviet Union-Communists rejected religion. It was a Cold War strategy to make America seem more moral compared to those "evil communists".

Some of those children who are starving in africa wouldn't be born if the parents had access to protection, which christians don't allow. They encourage more children.

Nice work generalizing anarchists, atheists, and everything else that isn't christian as immature angst teenagers, by the way. You'll only get respect from your fellow christians if you continue like that.

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