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fawk being a nice guy

you gotta be dominant scream wink scream


I could chalk this up to a troll post but I think it needs a response for the benefits of others. You can indeed be nice and still get girls. It's not hard. But don't make niceness the only aspect of your entire personality. There is nothing interesting about a one dimensional person. And it's downright vile just to be nice because you believe it will trick people into liking you. Honesty is the best policy.

Dominance can go down some dangerous roads. Instead of being dominant, be confident in who you are and what you want. Let other people know up front. Never tell a person you agree with or like something that you really don't. And especially, don't be afraid of being rejected by anyone.
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cool post. i always found that with nice guys, for whatever reason they act as if they have an object of affection someone they're "owed them". i can see why us females go for the jerks because being too narcissistic and bit of an a** is better than dating a wall. there's plenty of guys that get the whole formula right, though, who are genuinely nice, have their limits, take control sometimes, and care about themselves. i kind of find it mind-boggling when nice guys get upset that girls always choose the jerk. well, i guess in the end it's better to be with an honest jerk than a dishonest one.

piece of advice. when a woman says she wants a nice guy, she wants a nice guy. but what she doesn't want is someone you can walk all over. she wants a considerate guy who can lead.
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It's funny, I don't get dates because i'm an ugly, shallow hermit with high standards.


Are you acknowledging your own flaws, or just being sarcastic?



Acknowledging them, i'm pretty confident, sometimes but...

I'm just aware of my looks.

I mean, I look pretty bad.


I would say use that confidence, but adapt. Don't just tell people straight out "I'm ugly and I know it." Pretend like you don't even acknowledge your looks unless someone else brings it up. Then think of something witty to say.
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Jacque De Martyr
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Jacque De Martyr


It's funny, I don't get dates because i'm an ugly, shallow hermit with high standards.


Are you acknowledging your own flaws, or just being sarcastic?



Acknowledging them, i'm pretty confident, sometimes but...

I'm just aware of my looks.

I mean, I look pretty bad.


I would say use that confidence, but adapt. Don't just tell people straight out "I'm ugly and I know it." Pretend like you don't even acknowledge your looks unless someone else brings it up. Then think of something witty to say.
. Err... I'm not that self-confident but.. I'm highly self depreciating and honest.

I realize that "hot" girls are just pretty girls with make-up so I'm not your typical Michael Cera flick sexually inadequate nerd. Btw, I'm from Gen Z and I've come across a crud load of PUA Nuts online, so I've learned to ignore that crap. I don't think that it's possible to create sexual attraction out of thin air that never existed in the first place.
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cool post. i always found that with nice guys, for whatever reason they act as if they have an object of affection someone they're "owed them". i can see why us females go for the jerks because being too narcissistic and bit of an a** is better than dating a wall. there's plenty of guys that get the whole formula right, though, who are genuinely nice, have their limits, take control sometimes, and care about themselves. i kind of find it mind-boggling when nice guys get upset that girls always choose the jerk. well, i guess in the end it's better to be with an honest jerk than a dishonest one.

piece of advice. when a woman says she wants a nice guy, she wants a nice guy. but what she doesn't want is someone you can walk all over. she wants a considerate guy who can lead.
LOL, girls nowadays expect a Troubador knight to arouse their fantasies and save them from drowning into a pool of Consumerism!
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Dadoong
cool post. i always found that with nice guys, for whatever reason they act as if they have an object of affection someone they're "owed them". i can see why us females go for the jerks because being too narcissistic and bit of an a** is better than dating a wall. there's plenty of guys that get the whole formula right, though, who are genuinely nice, have their limits, take control sometimes, and care about themselves. i kind of find it mind-boggling when nice guys get upset that girls always choose the jerk. well, i guess in the end it's better to be with an honest jerk than a dishonest one.

piece of advice. when a woman says she wants a nice guy, she wants a nice guy. but what she doesn't want is someone you can walk all over. she wants a considerate guy who can lead.


Well, I'll play devil's advocate for a minute and give you the counter argument I often used.

When a girl says she's tired of dating jerks and wants a nice guy, this is what goes on in my 3 lb. computer they call a brain.

She doesn't want A.
I am B.
If she doesn't want A, she wants B.
Therefore, she wants me.

And I cam up with all this even after I knew what a false dichotomy was. But what a crock of s**t this line of reasoning is. I was assuming that I, as a man, had some kind of clue about what women wanted while at the same time saying all women didn't know what they really wanted. I should have tattooed "hypocrite" across my forehead at that point.

Nice guys need to break out of this kind of thought. Like I said, women are not games to be played. It's not that you had the right spec and the other guy didn't. Humans are more complex than that.
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Dadoong
cool post. i always found that with nice guys, for whatever reason they act as if they have an object of affection someone they're "owed them". i can see why us females go for the jerks because being too narcissistic and bit of an a** is better than dating a wall. there's plenty of guys that get the whole formula right, though, who are genuinely nice, have their limits, take control sometimes, and care about themselves. i kind of find it mind-boggling when nice guys get upset that girls always choose the jerk. well, i guess in the end it's better to be with an honest jerk than a dishonest one.

piece of advice. when a woman says she wants a nice guy, she wants a nice guy. but what she doesn't want is someone you can walk all over. she wants a considerate guy who can lead.
LOL, girls nowadays expect a Troubador knight to arouse their fantasies and save them from drowning into a pool of Consumerism!

really, it's not hard to have confidence and be nice at the same time.
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Dadoong
cool post. i always found that with nice guys, for whatever reason they act as if they have an object of affection someone they're "owed them". i can see why us females go for the jerks because being too narcissistic and bit of an a** is better than dating a wall. there's plenty of guys that get the whole formula right, though, who are genuinely nice, have their limits, take control sometimes, and care about themselves. i kind of find it mind-boggling when nice guys get upset that girls always choose the jerk. well, i guess in the end it's better to be with an honest jerk than a dishonest one.

piece of advice. when a woman says she wants a nice guy, she wants a nice guy. but what she doesn't want is someone you can walk all over. she wants a considerate guy who can lead.


Well, I'll play devil's advocate for a minute and give you the counter argument I often used.

When a girl says she's tired of dating jerks and wants a nice guy, this is what goes on in my 3 lb. computer they call a brain.

She doesn't want A.
I am B.
If she doesn't want A, she wants B.
Therefore, she wants me.

And I cam up with all this even after I knew what a false dichotomy was. But what a crock of s**t this line of reasoning is. I was assuming that I, as a man, had some kind of clue about what women wanted while at the same time saying all women didn't know what they really wanted. I should have tattooed "hypocrite" across my forehead at that point.

Nice guys need to break out of this kind of thought. Like I said, women are not games to be played. It's not that you had the right spec and the other guy didn't. Humans are more complex than that.

i know. all i was saying is that women aren't lying when they say that, they mean what they mean. perhaps i worded it wrongly, but my intention was that if you're a decent guy you have a shot with her.
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Who is ever nice for the sake of being nice? There's a motive.
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Who ever said that being the nice guy means that you buy all her s**t and cater to her every need? How about you just be a decent individual? To me being a nice guy means the same thing as being a nice girl. Just be considerate to the other person's feelings and treat them like a person.

Don't be an a*****e... be nice to who ever you're with...

Pseudo-Onkelos
Who is ever nice for the sake of being nice? There's a motive.

When the motive is to be nice to someone.
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Pseudo-Onkelos
Who is ever nice for the sake of being nice? There's a motive.

When the motive is to be nice to someone.



Garbage, you're nice when you want something.
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Pseudo-Onkelos
Who is ever nice for the sake of being nice? There's a motive.

When the motive is to be nice to someone.


Uh huh.
Pseudo-Onkelos
Who is ever nice for the sake of being nice? There's a motive.


You're stupid if you're nice for being nice.

I act nice because I like acting, personally.
Jacque De Martyr
The Willow Of Darkness
Pseudo-Onkelos
Who is ever nice for the sake of being nice? There's a motive.

When the motive is to be nice to someone.



Garbage, you're nice when you want something.

Yes, in this instance, to be nice.

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