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And you still haven't answered the question. What do you propose happens to the 5 million children who would need state care (aka Foster Care)?
Raise them. mrgreen
Who will raise them?
The mothers and fathers! mrgreen
What mothers and fathers? You didn't pay much attention to the scenario did you? Those 5 million children are UNWANTED children placed into an already overcrowded and flawed adoption system. now, where is the government going to get the money to support them, along with the hundreds of thousands thrown into it in each ensuing year?
The same place it got all that stuff to handle the 47 million that make up the baby boom population? rofl
Wrong considering they paid their taxes for their social security benefits, which, by the way, they're lucky if they can live off of that.
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And you still haven't answered the question. What do you propose happens to the 5 million children who would need state care (aka Foster Care)?
Raise them. mrgreen
Who will raise them?
The mothers and fathers! mrgreen
What mothers and fathers? You didn't pay much attention to the scenario did you? Those 5 million children are UNWANTED children placed into an already overcrowded and flawed adoption system. now, where is the government going to get the money to support them, along with the hundreds of thousands thrown into it in each ensuing year?
The same place it got all that stuff to handle the 47 million that make up the baby boom population? rofl
Large families were wanted back then. People had multiple kids- my father has two brothers, my mom has three brothers. The parents kept their kids, and their parents paid for the kid's food, clothing, textbooks, college education, etc etc. However, if all those kids are stuck into the government funded foster care system, where is that money going to come from? The government is kind of in a not so good place right now, if you haven't noticed. (Worst stock market day in the history of EVERNESS according to the news).
And I'm opening up this question to all the pro-lifers in this thread!
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Like I said. I'm sticking with that answer. 3nodding
You can't stick with "parents will pay" if you support adoption as your main choice for unwanted pregnancies/children!
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Like I said. I'm sticking with that answer. 3nodding
You can't stick with "parents will pay" if you support adoption as your main choice for unwanted pregnancies/children!
Well, normally I would concede, but since this whole conversation I've been carrying is based on an appeal to consequence, logic has been thrown out the window. I can say what I please. biggrin
It's not an appeal to consequence if we're not using it to support abortion. At most it can be considered slightly off-topic. It's an off-topic on topic side question!Master Secret Asian Man
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Like I said. I'm sticking with that answer. 3nodding
You can't stick with "parents will pay" if you support adoption as your main choice for unwanted pregnancies/children!
Well, normally I would concede, but since this whole conversation I've been carrying is based on an appeal to consequence, logic has been thrown out the window. I can say what I please. biggrin
It's not an appeal to consequence if we're not using it to support abortion. At most it can be considered slightly off-topic. It's an off-topic on topic side question!Right. It's just a list of side-affects of banning abortion that's being used to persuade the Pro-Life movement to concede. Nothing to do with appealing to consequence. Seriously, did you believe you were gonna get away with that horseshit? biggrin
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Like I said. I'm sticking with that answer. 3nodding
You can't stick with "parents will pay" if you support adoption as your main choice for unwanted pregnancies/children!
Well, normally I would concede, but since this whole conversation I've been carrying is based on an appeal to consequence, logic has been thrown out the window. I can say what I please. biggrin
It's not an appeal to consequence if we're not using it to support abortion. At most it can be considered slightly off-topic. It's an off-topic on topic side question!Right. It's just a list of side-affects of banning abortion that's being used to persuade the Pro-Life movement to concede. Nothing to do with appealing to consequence. Seriously, did you believe you were gonna get away with that horseshit? biggrin
Okay, I'm talking about me personally now. Personally, although I think the fact that adoption rates are very low means we shouldn't force more kids into the adoption system, I'm not going to use that as a serious argument for abortion. Because, you know, you could just use it to argue for killing infants right after their born. Pro-lifers don't see the difference between a fetus and an infant, so if it came down to it they'd probably say "GIVE IT A CHANCE TO LIVE, you might change your mind!... before you kill it." sweatdrop
But anyways. I am 100% honestly curious. I'm not going to use it as a point against the pro-life. Actually, ALL people should be worried about how to fix the adoption system; it's really ******** up it seems. But it would make sense that pro-lifers would be more concerned- if they can fix the system and prove that people want to adopt kids, it would ruin the point for the pro-choicers!
I just want to know how they think it could be done. Same as asking how they think we could prevent abortions in other ways such as contraceptives and education.