The 2012 question...is the world really ending?

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[Master Orenis]

Neko Ewen

The world doesn't end. You're going to have to keep dealing with real life. On the plus side, you get to keep living in this staggeringly awesome world.

Seriously, the 2012 thing is a product of new-age crackpots. It's about on the same level as the theory that reptiloids have been infiltrating the world's governments.

Man, I love that vid.

Is the world ending? You tell me.

[3rd_Eye_Candie]

Katsuno_Hitomi

Neko Ewen

The world doesn't end. You're going to have to keep dealing with real life. On the plus side, you get to keep living in this staggeringly awesome world.

Seriously, the 2012 thing is a product of new-age crackpots. It's about on the same level as the theory that reptiloids have been infiltrating the world's governments.

Man, I love that vid.

Is the world ending? You tell me.

OK??? How does singing about how awesome the world is have anything to do with my post..."YOU tell me..."

[3rd_Eye_Candie]

I'm going to leave this up just in case anybody else still wants to discuss, but I have read all the opinions necessary, so I'm done with this thread. Take care people, and check out my profile and send me PM's.

[Repellant]

The Maya didn't even agree among themselves which method with which to employ their calendar. According to different city states' calendars, the cycle ends at a multitude of different points.

• The now-infamous December 12, 2012 (Actually, wrong when you take leap years into account)
  
• October 13, 4772
  
• 4.134105 x 10^28 years into the future
  

[owl_209]

There is a rumor going around that at the end of the Mayan Calendar, the world will end. An alternative view is that the World Will Not End! [A third alternative is that time as we know it will end, but the world may continue merrily along -- in some fashion or another!]

Carlos Barrios [1], an historian and anthropologist, is reputed to have said that, “Other people write about prophecy in the name of the Maya. They say that the world will end in December 2012.” Barrios claims that the Mayan elders are angry about this. According to them, the world will not end. It will be transformed. There is, in fact, a difference.

The Mayan’s comprehension of time, seasons, and cycles has proven itself to be vast and sophisticated. The Maya developed 17 different calendars, some of them claiming to chart time accurately over a span of more than ten million years [But how would anyone know?]. The particular Mayan Calendar that has steadily drawn global attention since 1987 is called the Tzolk’in or Cholq’ij. This calendar was devised ages ago and is based on the cycle of the Pleiades. As such, it is held as sacred.

With indigenous calendars, native people have kept track of important turning points in history. For example, the daykeepers who studied the calendars identified an important day in the year One Reed, Ce Acatal, as it was called. That was the day when an important ancestor was prophesied to return, “coming like a butterfly.” In the western calendar, the One Reed date correlates to Easter Sunday, April 21, 1519 the day that Hernando Cortez and his fleet of 11 Spanish galleons arrived from the East at what is today called Vera Cruz, Mexico. When the Spanish ships came toward shore, native people were waiting and watching to see how it would go. The billowing sails of the ships did indeed remind the scouts of butterflies skimming the ocean surface.

This event initiated a new era, one that had been anticipated through the Mayan calendars. The Maya termed the new era: the Nine Bolomtikus, or nine Hells of 52 years each. As the nine cycles unfolded, the Mayan land and freedom were taken from the native people. Disease and disrespect dominated. What began with the arrival of Cortez, lasted until August 16, 1987 - a date many people refer to as the Harmonic Convergence. Millions of people took advantage of the latter date to share in ceremonies at sacred sites, praying for a smooth transition to a new era, the World of the Fifth Sun.

From that 1987 date until now, Mr. Barrios says, “We have been in a time when the right arm of the materialistic world is disappearing, slowly but inexorably. We are at the cusp of the era when peace begins, and people live in harmony with Mother Earth. We are no longer in the World of the Fourth Sun, but we are not yet in the World of the Fifth Sun. This is the time in-between, the time of transition. As we pass through transition there is a colossal, global convergence of environmental destruction, social chaos, war, and ongoing Earth changes.”

[All good calendar changes have transitions. They are really essential.]

All this, Mr. Barrios says, was foreseen via the simple, spiral mathematics of the Mayan calendars. “It will change,” Mr. Barrios observes. “Everything will change.” He said Mayan Daykeepers view the Dec. 21, 2012 date as a rebirth, the start of the World of the Fifth Sun. It will be the start of a new era resulting from and signified by the solar meridian crossing the galactic equator, and the earth aligning itself with the center of the galaxy. And while the so-called World of the Fourth Sun will indeed end, the result is true to the idea of Death and Rebirth. The key is not focusing on death, but on the rebirth!

At sunrise on December 21, 2012 for the first time in 26,000 years the Sun rises to conjunct the intersection of the Milky Way and the plane of the ecliptic. This cosmic cross is considered to be an embodiment of the Sacred Tree, the Tree of Life, a tree remembered in all the world’s spiritual traditions. Some observers say this alignment with the heart of the galaxy in 2012 will open a channel for cosmic energy to flow through the earth, cleansing it and all that dwells upon it, raising all to a higher level of vibration.

This process has already begun, Mr. Barrios suggested.

“Change is accelerating now, and it will continue to accelerate.” If the people of the earth can get to this 2012 date in good shape, without having destroyed too much of the Earth, Mr. Barrios said, we will rise to a new, higher level

[DakiDaki]

@owl: Thanks for info about the origins of the 2012 hype.

Should have known that it was New Age hippie bullshit.

[3rd_Eye_Candie]

owl_209

There is a rumor going around that at the end of the Mayan Calendar, the world will end. An alternative view is that the World Will Not End! [A third alternative is that time as we know it will end, but the world may continue merrily along -- in some fashion or another!]

Carlos Barrios [1], an historian and anthropologist, is reputed to have said that, “Other people write about prophecy in the name of the Maya. They say that the world will end in December 2012.” Barrios claims that the Mayan elders are angry about this. According to them, the world will not end. It will be transformed. There is, in fact, a difference.

The Mayan’s comprehension of time, seasons, and cycles has proven itself to be vast and sophisticated. The Maya developed 17 different calendars, some of them claiming to chart time accurately over a span of more than ten million years [But how would anyone know?]. The particular Mayan Calendar that has steadily drawn global attention since 1987 is called the Tzolk’in or Cholq’ij. This calendar was devised ages ago and is based on the cycle of the Pleiades. As such, it is held as sacred.

With indigenous calendars, native people have kept track of important turning points in history. For example, the daykeepers who studied the calendars identified an important day in the year One Reed, Ce Acatal, as it was called. That was the day when an important ancestor was prophesied to return, “coming like a butterfly.” In the western calendar, the One Reed date correlates to Easter Sunday, April 21, 1519 the day that Hernando Cortez and his fleet of 11 Spanish galleons arrived from the East at what is today called Vera Cruz, Mexico. When the Spanish ships came toward shore, native people were waiting and watching to see how it would go. The billowing sails of the ships did indeed remind the scouts of butterflies skimming the ocean surface.

This event initiated a new era, one that had been anticipated through the Mayan calendars. The Maya termed the new era: the Nine Bolomtikus, or nine Hells of 52 years each. As the nine cycles unfolded, the Mayan land and freedom were taken from the native people. Disease and disrespect dominated. What began with the arrival of Cortez, lasted until August 16, 1987 - a date many people refer to as the Harmonic Convergence. Millions of people took advantage of the latter date to share in ceremonies at sacred sites, praying for a smooth transition to a new era, the World of the Fifth Sun.

From that 1987 date until now, Mr. Barrios says, “We have been in a time when the right arm of the materialistic world is disappearing, slowly but inexorably. We are at the cusp of the era when peace begins, and people live in harmony with Mother Earth. We are no longer in the World of the Fourth Sun, but we are not yet in the World of the Fifth Sun. This is the time in-between, the time of transition. As we pass through transition there is a colossal, global convergence of environmental destruction, social chaos, war, and ongoing Earth changes.”

[All good calendar changes have transitions. They are really essential.]

All this, Mr. Barrios says, was foreseen via the simple, spiral mathematics of the Mayan calendars. “It will change,” Mr. Barrios observes. “Everything will change.” He said Mayan Daykeepers view the Dec. 21, 2012 date as a rebirth, the start of the World of the Fifth Sun. It will be the start of a new era resulting from and signified by the solar meridian crossing the galactic equator, and the earth aligning itself with the center of the galaxy. And while the so-called World of the Fourth Sun will indeed end, the result is true to the idea of Death and Rebirth. The key is not focusing on death, but on the rebirth!

At sunrise on December 21, 2012 for the first time in 26,000 years the Sun rises to conjunct the intersection of the Milky Way and the plane of the ecliptic. This cosmic cross is considered to be an embodiment of the Sacred Tree, the Tree of Life, a tree remembered in all the world’s spiritual traditions. Some observers say this alignment with the heart of the galaxy in 2012 will open a channel for cosmic energy to flow through the earth, cleansing it and all that dwells upon it, raising all to a higher level of vibration.

This process has already begun, Mr. Barrios suggested.

“Change is accelerating now, and it will continue to accelerate.” If the people of the earth can get to this 2012 date in good shape, without having destroyed too much of the Earth, Mr. Barrios said, we will rise to a new, higher level

You really need to think about limiting your words...cuz honestly I wouldn't want to read all that...

[a scripted dream]

I can't imagine the day on 2012 to be anything like the movie. (Natural disasters and such)
If anything were to go wrong, I believe that the stock market will most likely crashed, and at that point we're ********. Our rights are coming closer to being sucked from us, each day that passes. Our government has decided to make camps all over the US, and you can guess what these camps will be for. Perhaps, in 2012... we'll see the true side of our government.

Yeah yeah, more conspiracy bullshit..
Deal with it.

[3rd_Eye_Candie]

a scripted dream

I can't imagine the day on 2012 to be anything like the movie. (Natural disasters and such)
If anything were to go wrong, I believe that the stock market will most likely crashed, and at that point we're ********. Our rights are coming closer to being sucked from us, each day that passes. Our government has decided to make camps all over the US, and you can guess what these camps will be for. Perhaps, in 2012... we'll see the true side of our government.

Yeah yeah, more conspiracy bullshit..
Deal with it.

I actually can believe that, sounds like my opinion about the government, I think you strike a really good point...

[The Official GD Turtle]

The Mayan calender doesn't end. It's a cycle that repeats. They did a piece on 2012 on the Discovery channel, and the historians said that Mayans didn't perceive 2012 as the end of the world, it was just a continuation of the cycle, a rebirth almost.

The scientist also sarcastically remarked that he expects to wake up perfectly fine on 2012, December 22. =/

2012= Lame. Do some valid research, you'll find your answers.

[HtheDarkStealthDude]

The movie is awesome. But no the world will not end at 2012.

[3rd_Eye_Candie]

Willya Bend-over

1. Based on the facts they have the Mayan calander is ending so something WILL happen.
2. The world is suppose to end on DECEMBER 21ST 2012 AT 11:11 PM.
3. get the date right ;P

Actually if you did research like a smart girl, then you would know that there were actually 2 possible doom days....so YOU get your facts right b***h!

[3rd_Eye_Candie]

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Ok, what the ******** is with everyone,
If you people who said the date was "ONLY" the 21st did a little ******** research,
you would know that there were 2 predicted dates, the 21st and the 25th.

Please get your facts right and do a little more research on here before you come in here and try to prove me wrong.

Second, I know you guys are pissed about my poll, i put Christianity as in You believe in god in general. All the others are the different ways people practice Christianity, and to me THATS different ******** religion Beliefs.

Please if all you are gonna do is come in here and post a compliant about something I put or posted, then please leave, this is for discussion, not for "Immature Pity Princesses and their Wet Pantie b***h Fits!