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-PhantomRain_ InariReyne-
If we could somehow test if a fetus was living, and it showed itself not to be living, would the pro lifers stop harrassing pregnant people that go into clinics?

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People in comas aren't sentient either, yet there's argument about killing them too.
 
     
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-PhantomRain_ InariReyne-
If we could somehow test if a fetus was living, and it showed itself not to be living, would the pro lifers stop harrassing pregnant people that go into clinics?

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Haven't they already have proven that the unborn baby even at an early age, at least the age abortion is allowed, responds to it's surroundings?
     
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-PhantomRain_ InariReyne-
If we could somehow test if a fetus was living, and it showed itself not to be living, would the pro lifers stop harrassing pregnant people that go into clinics?

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Haven't they already have proven that the unborn baby even at an early age, at least the age abortion is allowed, responds to it's surroundings?


Everything responds to its surroundings. Everyyyythiiiinnnggggggg eek eek eek eek
 
     
 
-PhantomRain_ InariReyne-
If we could somehow test if a fetus was living, and it showed itself not to be living, would the pro lifers stop harrassing pregnant people that go into clinics?

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Oh God..
     
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-PhantomRain_ InariReyne-
If we could somehow test if a fetus was living, and it showed itself not to be living, would the pro lifers stop harrassing pregnant people that go into clinics?
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No because they are mentally retarded and people like pressing their BS ideas onto other. They would then just harass people that if they pray to their god. He/She will bring the dead fetus back to live.
     
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Even newborn babies aren't sentient; They aren't self- aware.

Yeah they are. I was. I remember.

yea you and you remember that full vision of you in labour burning_eyes
and it was NATURAL BIRTH!!! ARGHHH burning_eyes burning_eyes

of course its living. If it was dead. It wouldnt grow and develop. It would just be some dead cell stuck to you...
 
     

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Fetuses are living. We already know this.

Case open, case closed.
     
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Even without these points (heart beat, sentience, etc.) I think the main reason for avoiding abortion is that the embryo/fetus is living and will turn into a full grown baby, then on to a young child, adolescent...etc. Having an abortion at any stage is like pouring the cement for the base of a house, maybe getting the frame built and some wiring then demolishing it.
 
     
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Even without these points (heart beat, sentience, etc.) I think the main reason for avoiding abortion is that the embryo/fetus is living and will turn into a full grown baby, then on to a young child, adolescent...etc.

No, it won't necessarily do that. It could also result in a spontaneous abortion.

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Having an abortion at any stage is like pouring the cement for the base of a house, maybe getting the frame built and some wiring then demolishing it.

Which is a completely sensible thing to do if you change your mind.

Your analogy sucks though. A better one would be that your hobby is to weld random pieces of metal together and suddenly realizing that you have made the base for an airplane, which you then disassemble because that's not what you wanted to do.
     
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Lumanny the Space Jew
Even newborn babies aren't sentient; They aren't self- aware.
O-o if that's true then what's the problem with late term abortions? then why not just kill the baby at any time.

Because it is alive then. Early abortions, it's just a non-sentient hunk of cells. Late abortions, it's a non-sentient living creature.


Going to have to break out the Biology book on this one, but if a Cell Multiplies...It's alive.

Also going to have to go back to my Metaphysics day...But... There is absolutely ******** way to measure Sentience, so your argument = Complete Bullshit.
 
     
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-PhantomRain_ InariReyne-
Lumanny the Space Jew
Even newborn babies aren't sentient; They aren't self- aware.
O-o if that's true then what's the problem with late term abortions? then why not just kill the baby at any time.

Because it is alive then. Early abortions, it's just a non-sentient hunk of cells. Late abortions, it's a non-sentient living creature.
Even sperm and ova are alive. What you are aborting is the life of the fetus. Also, the pregnancy.
     
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