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should suicide be allowed?

yes? 0.6688654353562 66.9% [ 507 ]
no? 0.3311345646438 33.1% [ 251 ]
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MarlaCorbin
Poison Fairy Sennyo
I believe you should be, but what is your opinion?
I think it wrong that one can be forced to live despite their wishes. Silly reasons like "omg, I broke up with mah bf" is pretty silly, especially if you're the type that's hooking up with people year around, sorry, off topic.
I have a topic relative to this and I would appreciate your opinion (it's for an essay I have to do).
I'm part of an online community that supports pro-choice extremly. We'll give out advice and comments to people who ask, or just feel the need to. I wouldn't stop anyone that I knew/know whether in real life or online from committing suicide because that would be selfish of me to force my opinion upon someone like that.
http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/extended-discussion/the-right-to-die-the-innane-value-people-put-on-human-life/t.45182393/

I'm all for pro choice when it comes to abortion and euthanasia, but I have strict beliefs on those too. You should not be able to kill yourself if you've never given yourself a chance to rise after hitting rock bottom, you shouldn't be allowed to do it for some stupid reason. The whole emo subculture has made it very hard for me to say that you should be allowed to make your own decision when it comes to life, because all of those people are stuck up little brats who are only doing it for attention.

Abortion should only be allowed if there are medical problems to you or the baby, you shouldn't have to risk your own life and the childs if there is a possiblilty of you haveing a healthy baby later on. As well as rape. if you've been raped you shouldn't have to live with the rape, and your rapists baby.

Euthanasia, if you are definatly going to die anyways, and your in extreme pain, who cares if you die a little early to make it stop hurting.


So wait, who's to decide if someone's reason for killing themself is "stupid"?

Also, I have very little patience for those who complain about people "doing it for attention". Have you ever considered that maybe, just maybe, those people NEED the attention? I don't care how minor it may seem. Issues can get out of control very quickly. And making them feel like their emotions are "emo" and generally invalid won't help them.

I just feel like I have no right to tell someone else they can't die. I may not like it and I may try to change a mind, but the law has no place telling people they can't end their life is they so desire.
Neryma
Well you have all profoundly depressed me.
I have never attempted to commit suicide. I know too many people, indirectly, who suceeded and I am just grateful someone I know dearly, wasnt one of them.
She has never been on suicide watch but she has tried to 'cut' her pain away.
Something tragic happened. I believe if it happened before she had another human being to live for ( a child) the chances of her killing herself would have been much grater. I know this person well enough to know- if it werent for this little baby, she would likely have wanted to.
Do you think this mother should be allowed to kill herself and abandoned her child because of a hurt that- even though it doesnt seem like it- would ease eventually?

And I and this person are christians. We believe that suicide = hell. This is My Believe (and hers) I am not trying to convince of this. ( We will all see one day and this is not a religion topic). So if Suicide means hell, and she still considers it, do you think she should be allowed? or do you think Maybe you should try to stop her and get her to see that life up here is worth sticking it out?
thats my soapbox speech..


So, why exactly do you believe that suicide will automatically send you to hell? I'm a Christian, and I completely disagree. I'd like to get your take on it, though.
I believe a person can kill themselves if they want to. Unless they've asked for the help because a part of them wants to live, they have every right to do so. In some cases, it is selfish, but the majority of them probably weren't. Many people that kill themselves don't realize they will be missed or to the extent they will be missed. They might try it on impluse without thinking a lot about it. I find it hard to believe that I would be missed. A part of me believes that family has to love their family no matter how stupid, ugly, or badly they behave, and that is why I'm still here and never've tried to kill myself. No, they won't go to hell if they didn't mean to do something wrong. If a person accidentally killed another person or acidentally did some other bad things, do you think they would go to hell? If a few people killed themselves, would that greatly affect this overpopulated world? Severe depression has opened my eyes on how bad this is. I'm only mildly depressed now and still feel the same way and probably always will no matter what. I believe that life is bad whether you are depressed, going through some hard times, or are normal and happy. I believe most teens who cut or say they are depressed do it for attention these days. Mose people who try to kill themselves are probably not attention seeking. Overall, I don't think cutting is a big deal. Most people who try to kill themselves by cutting don't succeed. What are the chances of a person accidentally killing themselves by cutting? I'm surprised and glad to see that most people in the poll agree with me. Anyway, would you want your loved ones to go through such great pain?
Honestly I think committing suicide should be similar to purchasing a gun.

You put your order in.
You wait about a week (during this time you get your papers together, pay things off, make a will, etc.)
Then you go to a pre-designated spot, you pay your fee, and then have at it.

The waiting period would also serve as a "think about it" period.

The government makes money, and people can end their life if they chose.

But I strongly believe that if we have the right to live, we also have the right to die.
MarlaCorbin
Should suicide attempts be allowed instead of trying to prevent them?

Do you know someone who committed suicide, that if you knew you wouldn't have tried to stop them?

Note: You are hospitalized if you fail or are caught, not jailed.

Do you think that in the end, anyone really deserves to die?

Is cutting a serious issue that should be adressed, or just some emo thing kids do for attention

Note: Read "A Bright Red Scream" if you are interested in the medical views of self mutilation.

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Do you think that with the amount of teen suicides, and many of them being unnessecary deaths, should the government be funding therapy driven organizations such as the childrens help line, more therapists in more places, perhapse stress the importance of a regular psychological evaluation (just as regular doctors appointments are)?

What are your views on The afterlife when it comes to suicide? Angles? Hell?
Are suicidal individuals sinners, or just someone who took fate into their own hands?

And I suppose I should stress again, for those who havn't realised it yet, this forum is not about euthanasia (entirely different topic) nor any other reason that one would kill themself other than a depression or mental illness that relates to depression induced suicide.








Self-sacrifice is not encouraged by the Satanic religion. Therefore, unless death comes as an
indulgence because of extreme circumstances which make the termination of life a welcome
relief from the unendurable earthyl existence, suicide is frowned upon by the Satanic religion. (all hail satan!!!!!!!!!!!)
Who is the government to tell the citizen what to do with their own body? Smoking, driving, construction work, binge drinking, there are many activities that can cause death but in those cases the government allows them out of a sense of freedom. No liberal society should prevent euthanasia, suicide, etc.
That Foxy Martin
Who is the government to tell the citizen what to do with their own body? Smoking, driving, construction work, binge drinking, there are many activities that can cause death but in those cases the government allows them out of a sense of freedom. No liberal society should prevent euthanasia, suicide, etc.

A valid point of course.
spiffyelgato
MarlaCorbin
Poison Fairy Sennyo
I believe you should be, but what is your opinion?
I think it wrong that one can be forced to live despite their wishes. Silly reasons like "omg, I broke up with mah bf" is pretty silly, especially if you're the type that's hooking up with people year around, sorry, off topic.
I have a topic relative to this and I would appreciate your opinion (it's for an essay I have to do).
I'm part of an online community that supports pro-choice extremly. We'll give out advice and comments to people who ask, or just feel the need to. I wouldn't stop anyone that I knew/know whether in real life or online from committing suicide because that would be selfish of me to force my opinion upon someone like that.
http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/extended-discussion/the-right-to-die-the-innane-value-people-put-on-human-life/t.45182393/

I'm all for pro choice when it comes to abortion and euthanasia, but I have strict beliefs on those too. You should not be able to kill yourself if you've never given yourself a chance to rise after hitting rock bottom, you shouldn't be allowed to do it for some stupid reason. The whole emo subculture has made it very hard for me to say that you should be allowed to make your own decision when it comes to life, because all of those people are stuck up little brats who are only doing it for attention.

Abortion should only be allowed if there are medical problems to you or the baby, you shouldn't have to risk your own life and the childs if there is a possiblilty of you haveing a healthy baby later on. As well as rape. if you've been raped you shouldn't have to live with the rape, and your rapists baby.

Euthanasia, if you are definatly going to die anyways, and your in extreme pain, who cares if you die a little early to make it stop hurting.


So wait, who's to decide if someone's reason for killing themself is "stupid"?

Also, I have very little patience for those who complain about people "doing it for attention". Have you ever considered that maybe, just maybe, those people NEED the attention? I don't care how minor it may seem. Issues can get out of control very quickly. And making them feel like their emotions are "emo" and generally invalid won't help them.

I just feel like I have no right to tell someone else they can't die. I may not like it and I may try to change a mind, but the law has no place telling people they can't end their life is they so desire.


To be honest, it's the people who aren't attention whores who demand that everyone take interest in everything they do, that are the ones who truly need someone to pay attention to them. These attention whores get tons of attention, and then keep stealing more from everyone else who needs it just as much.
MarlaCorbin
Should suicide attempts be allowed instead of trying to prevent them?

Well... Suicide shouldn't be illegal, but if they didn't succeed in their attempt they should at least be b***h slapped. I don't really have an objection to suicide, but I don't approve of it either. It's such a cowardly act...

MarlaCorbin
Do you know someone who committed suicide, that if you knew you wouldn't have tried to stop them?

My older brother committed suicide the year before I was born. I don't know what his reasons were, but I know that if I was alive when he was I probably would have saved him. I don't know if I could just let someone die willingly, but it really depends on circumstances... For example, if someone was completely paralyzed or was going to die of a disease I wouldn't object to suicide or assisted suicide.

MarlaCorbin
Do you think that in the end, anyone really deserves to die?

Of course. I admit that I think there are some people in this world who DO deserve to die and I know that death will come to them because that's how karma works. If suicide happens to be how they die, good for them.

MarlaCorbin
Is cutting a serious issue that should be addressed, or just some emo thing kids do for attention?

It depends on how deep the cuts are and where a person cuts themselves. Of course there are some people who cut as a form of attention seeking and others cut in a real attempt to hurt themselves. Although, even with this in mind, those aren't the only reasons that people mutilate their bodies. Scarring is actually a type of body art and some people actually find pleasure in being cut.

MarlaCorbin

Do you think that with the amount of teen suicides, and many of them being unnecessary deaths, should the government be funding therapy driven organizations such as the child's help line, more therapists in more places, perhaps stress the importance of a regular psychological evaluation (just as regular doctors appointments are)?

It is a good idea to fund organizations like that, but I don't think that there should be so much pressure put on people to attend psychological therapy. Sometimes therapy hurts more then in heals a person. It can be embarrassing for a person to have to go to therapy and sometimes drugs are prescribed when unnecessary. Therapy can help to address some issues, but when someone REALLY wants to die, it can't help.

MarlaCorbin
What are your views on The afterlife when it comes to suicide? Angels? Hell?

Personally, I don't believe in an afterlife. I believe that once we die, we are reborn into a parallel universe where we live out our lives until we die. I don't think the way in which we die will give cause to any sort of punishment in the next life, but I think that some memory from past lives will be transported with us. All in theory, of course.

MarlaCorbin
Are suicidal individuals sinners, or just someone who took fate into their own hands?

I don't think it should be considered a sin. I know that in some cultures it is viewed as such, but it shouldn't be considered a bad thing.
Well if the person is successful, what are you gonna do?

I really don't see what making it illegal would do except for statistically rising the crime rate. It sucks that people kill themselves. I've lost many people to suicide, but if fear of death and risking hurting their loved ones doesn't stop one, legality won't either.

If I were going to kill myself, whether or not it was legal wouldn't matter to me. I'd just make pretty darn sure I get it right the first time.

If they make it illegal, you might just see less people trying to slit their wrists and more people shooting themselves or other drastic, gruesome methods.
Mint Flavored
Well if the person is successful, what are you gonna do?

I really don't see what making it illegal would do except for statistically rising the crime rate. It sucks that people kill themselves. I've lost many people to suicide, but if fear of death and risking hurting their loved ones doesn't stop one, legality won't either.

If I were going to kill myself, whether or not it was legal wouldn't matter to me. I'd just make pretty darn sure I get it right the first time.

If they make it illegal, you might just see less people trying to slit their wrists and more people shooting themselves or other drastic, gruesome methods.

...It's already illegal
MarlaCorbin
Mint Flavored
Well if the person is successful, what are you gonna do?

I really don't see what making it illegal would do except for statistically rising the crime rate. It sucks that people kill themselves. I've lost many people to suicide, but if fear of death and risking hurting their loved ones doesn't stop one, legality won't either.

If I were going to kill myself, whether or not it was legal wouldn't matter to me. I'd just make pretty darn sure I get it right the first time.

If they make it illegal, you might just see less people trying to slit their wrists and more people shooting themselves or other drastic, gruesome methods.

...It's already illegal

If you are caught attempting suicide, you are taken to the hospital for a temorary stay ( a day to a few days) until it seems that your life will not be immidiatly at risk if they release you. At that point depending on how many times you've been caught, to the severity of the issue, you will be pressured to take action (counselling, stay at the hospital etc) or your family will be pressured. If it is a first try, or wasn't that serious, you will be told to consider therapy and then sent on your way.
My views on suicide are driven heavily by my faith, I'm afraid.
Those who kill themselves are cutting short a gift given to them by God.
'God's gift to us is our lives, our gift to God is what we do with it.'
If the best way we can think of repaying God is to end the life prematurely, so be it.
According to the Roman Catholic [my] faith, those who commit suicide are misguided human beings and should be prayed for. It is the belief system of the Catholics that say that those who commit suicide are sent to Purgatory, a kind of inbetween area. Not heaven, but not hell either. Kind of like a 'purifying zone' before any person is allowed into heaven.
Some Catholics believe the act of suicide is so great a mark on their soul that it would take a very VERY long time [instert eternity] to have themselves clensed, others believe it is a substantial, but not permenant time.
And again, this is my opinion, based on faith, no offense meant to anyone.
i filled in yes but now that i red ur post i have to be honest and agree with u that u should not take ur life ..
but what if your dad molested u and beated the living s**t outa you ( example)
or rapes u and ur mothers doesnt believe ur dad would do that ..
i mean for those kind a people some times death is the only thing that they want that could set them free from all the horror in their life
i mean life can be cruel on some people .. and i dont see people helping them..why not .
why dont people take the problem from its roots and only look at thing their doing
why dont u look further than that their must be a reason why doing it

i hope u understand what i mean ^^ im dutch and a bit dislectic so my spelling might not be that perfect
xTriplyx
i filled in yes but now that i red ur post i have to be honest and agree with u that u should not take ur life ..
but what if your dad molested u and beated the living s**t outa you ( example)
or rapes u and ur mothers doesnt believe ur dad would do that ..
i mean for those kind a people some times death is the only thing that they want that could set them free from all the horror in their life
i mean life can be cruel on some people .. and i dont see people helping them..why not .
why dont people take the problem from its roots and only look at thing their doing
why dont u look further than that their must be a reason why doing it

i hope u understand what i mean ^^ im dutch and a bit dislectic so my spelling might not be that perfect

No believe that there are cases, where the persons choice to kill themselves makes sense. I would still try to save them, and try to help them, but I could understand if they decided life was too much for them.
The point of my argument is now "is it RIGHT to commit suicide" but rather "should it be LEGAL to commit suicide"
I think that committing suicide should always remain illegal. There is no benifit to legalizing it. If it's illegal, people are still going to kill themselve, so it's not stealing anyones rights, but at the same time, there is the potential of that law helping to save their lives if they fail.

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