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»» I have a friend who tried to commit suicide. He's now in the hospital recovering, he was in a drug-induced coma for a week. The reason he wanted to take his life was that when he was little, he was out four-wheeling with his younger brother and they had a wreck. The brother died and he never really forgave himself.

I think about suicide a lot. But I'm not a little emo kid. I take medicine every day for anxiety and depression, and it usually helps. I don't know why I always think of taking my own life, but I don't think I would ever really do it. I know that I have too much to live for and I have people who love me. I used to be very self destructive, an I only stopped because my mother caught me and would check my arms every day to make sure I wasn't hurting myself anymore. What's funny is that she's a counselor.

I do not think people should be allowed to kill themselves. But it doesn't matter, they'll do it anyway. ««

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I can relate, and I agree
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I know plenty about Major Depressive disorder I'm a Psychology major. And I know that on its own depression will go away in 2 years, but in between medication and therapy will help. Unless your suffering from Dysthymia disorder which is far less sever and easily treated with SSRI's.

Actually I've had depression sense I was 4-5 as my therapist, psychologist, and medical physician have said. It runs in my family and my symptoms started around that age. I'm 16 now so 2 years? I wish. I take large doses of medication everyday and see a regular therapist. Hate to burst your bubble but 3 professionals who have already graduated ,and my doctor is 56 years old and has been a doctor his whole life, so I'm going to have to say that it isn't completely temporary.


Then you are .A. Suffering from a mood disorder, .B. Making it all up .C. All you doctors and therapist are idiots .D. you have Dysthymia and are blowing it out of proportion. And its really odd that I happen to find the 2 percent of children that suffer from depression on Gaia.


I took 3 tests from my therapist to diagnose my disorder. The different ones were for mood,personality, and mental health. The symptoms I speak of came at 4-5 because my father had a terrible accident that almost took his life you see. This caused my mother[as depression runs strong in her side of the family] to become depressed and anxious. As my father was in the hospital I was around my mother all the time and her depression set off mine and I thought my dad was dead. I began to bit my nails, have panic attacks, nightmares, and a slew of other symptoms. It began to grow and get worse with time, as depression does, because it went ignored. Now it is at such a high level I will need medication and therapy my whole life.
Sometimes mental disorders form differently by person. I suppose you know this because of your future practice.


Then you a medical miracle, because I cant find any thing like that in the DSM-IV, and honestly the fact that your arguing about this shows that your not severely depressed. And if you are suffering from depression can you tell me what form?Because the only thing I can find for Chronic Major Depression, is Bipolar 1 and Bipolar 2. And it would really help me if I knew what your were suffering from.

you'd be suprised at how many people suffer from a form of depression, minor or major.
A major disorder such as bipolar, don't just go away, but there is a possibility of supressing them so that the person can lead a somewhat normal life. A mood disorder or depression isn't a death sentance as many people suffering from them think.
I have depression, slightly bipolar, and have a borderline personality disorder, but I've learned to live with them, I've gotten over the suicidal part of me, and I'm actually the happiest I've ever been right now

Yea. It is nice to see someone who understands. I'm a little concerned that he said "the fact that your arguing about this shows that your not severely depressed." I'm on medication. I have severe depression but take meds for it. If I didn't then yes I would FEEL severely depressed and probably lose my mind. User Image
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I know plenty about Major Depressive disorder I'm a Psychology major. And I know that on its own depression will go away in 2 years, but in between medication and therapy will help. Unless your suffering from Dysthymia disorder which is far less sever and easily treated with SSRI's.

Actually I've had depression sense I was 4-5 as my therapist, psychologist, and medical physician have said. It runs in my family and my symptoms started around that age. I'm 16 now so 2 years? I wish. I take large doses of medication everyday and see a regular therapist. Hate to burst your bubble but 3 professionals who have already graduated ,and my doctor is 56 years old and has been a doctor his whole life, so I'm going to have to say that it isn't completely temporary.


Then you are .A. Suffering from a mood disorder, .B. Making it all up .C. All you doctors and therapist are idiots .D. you have Dysthymia and are blowing it out of proportion. And its really odd that I happen to find the 2 percent of children that suffer from depression on Gaia.


I took 3 tests from my therapist to diagnose my disorder. The different ones were for mood,personality, and mental health. The symptoms I speak of came at 4-5 because my father had a terrible accident that almost took his life you see. This caused my mother[as depression runs strong in her side of the family] to become depressed and anxious. As my father was in the hospital I was around my mother all the time and her depression set off mine and I thought my dad was dead. I began to bit my nails, have panic attacks, nightmares, and a slew of other symptoms. It began to grow and get worse with time, as depression does, because it went ignored. Now it is at such a high level I will need medication and therapy my whole life.
Sometimes mental disorders form differently by person. I suppose you know this because of your future practice.


Then you a medical miracle, because I cant find any thing like that in the DSM-IV, and honestly the fact that your arguing about this shows that your not severely depressed. And if you are suffering from depression can you tell me what form?Because the only thing I can find for Chronic Major Depression, is Bipolar 1 and Bipolar 2. And it would really help me if I knew what your were suffering from.

Well from what I know of child psychology at 4-5 having one parent in the hospital for 4 months and the other one depressed/anxious is NOT helpful. It runs on both sides of my family. I became depressed in the beginning because I had an unstable life. Then it went away for awhile but came back in 5th grade as I got older. I began to be nervous, anxious, bit my nails/inside my mouth/lips until all three bled, I couldn't go to sleep, I would neglect my hygiene which was mostly just brushing my teeth and showering, I didn't eat a lot, feelings of emptyness, aloneness, and suicide follow along as well. These symptoms have all been recorded by my therapist and diagnosed as Severe Depression and Moderate Anxiety. By the way it is not Bipolar disorder because I never feel any better from any of the symptoms.
Now what is depressing me is that I am the black sheep of my family.


Well I'm email my professor with your symptoms so I'll see what she says, I think your suffering from Dysthymia.
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Then you are .A. Suffering from a mood disorder, .B. Making it all up .C. All you doctors and therapist are idiots .D. you have Dysthymia and are blowing it out of proportion. And its really odd that I happen to find the 2 percent of children that suffer from depression on Gaia.


I took 3 tests from my therapist to diagnose my disorder. The different ones were for mood,personality, and mental health. The symptoms I speak of came at 4-5 because my father had a terrible accident that almost took his life you see. This caused my mother[as depression runs strong in her side of the family] to become depressed and anxious. As my father was in the hospital I was around my mother all the time and her depression set off mine and I thought my dad was dead. I began to bit my nails, have panic attacks, nightmares, and a slew of other symptoms. It began to grow and get worse with time, as depression does, because it went ignored. Now it is at such a high level I will need medication and therapy my whole life.
Sometimes mental disorders form differently by person. I suppose you know this because of your future practice.


Then you a medical miracle, because I cant find any thing like that in the DSM-IV, and honestly the fact that your arguing about this shows that your not severely depressed. And if you are suffering from depression can you tell me what form?Because the only thing I can find for Chronic Major Depression, is Bipolar 1 and Bipolar 2. And it would really help me if I knew what your were suffering from.

Well from what I know of child psychology at 4-5 having one parent in the hospital for 4 months and the other one depressed/anxious is NOT helpful. It runs on both sides of my family. I became depressed in the beginning because I had an unstable life. Then it went away for awhile but came back in 5th grade as I got older. I began to be nervous, anxious, bit my nails/inside my mouth/lips until all three bled, I couldn't go to sleep, I would neglect my hygiene which was mostly just brushing my teeth and showering, I didn't eat a lot, feelings of emptyness, aloneness, and suicide follow along as well. These symptoms have all been recorded by my therapist and diagnosed as Severe Depression and Moderate Anxiety. By the way it is not Bipolar disorder because I never feel any better from any of the symptoms.
Now what is depressing me is that I am the black sheep of my family.


Well I'm email my professor with your symptoms so I'll see what she says, I think your suffering from Dysthymia.

Right...
My symptoms are all of the ones for depression except the one that most won't mention which is lack of hygiene care. And I have gone 1 day without my meds before and wanted to kill myself all day long. I take large doses of medication to function but without it I'd be a blob and never leave the house. So I need them to live my life. As far as my therapist can tell I'll need them my whole life.
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Well I'm email my professor with your symptoms so I'll see what she says, I think your suffering from Dysthymia.

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Then you are .A. Suffering from a mood disorder, .B. Making it all up .C. All you doctors and therapist are idiots .D. you have Dysthymia and are blowing it out of proportion. And its really odd that I happen to find the 2 percent of children that suffer from depression on Gaia.


I took 3 tests from my therapist to diagnose my disorder. The different ones were for mood,personality, and mental health. The symptoms I speak of came at 4-5 because my father had a terrible accident that almost took his life you see. This caused my mother[as depression runs strong in her side of the family] to become depressed and anxious. As my father was in the hospital I was around my mother all the time and her depression set off mine and I thought my dad was dead. I began to bit my nails, have panic attacks, nightmares, and a slew of other symptoms. It began to grow and get worse with time, as depression does, because it went ignored. Now it is at such a high level I will need medication and therapy my whole life.
Sometimes mental disorders form differently by person. I suppose you know this because of your future practice.


Then you a medical miracle, because I cant find any thing like that in the DSM-IV, and honestly the fact that your arguing about this shows that your not severely depressed. And if you are suffering from depression can you tell me what form?Because the only thing I can find for Chronic Major Depression, is Bipolar 1 and Bipolar 2. And it would really help me if I knew what your were suffering from.

Well from what I know of child psychology at 4-5 having one parent in the hospital for 4 months and the other one depressed/anxious is NOT helpful. It runs on both sides of my family. I became depressed in the beginning because I had an unstable life. Then it went away for awhile but came back in 5th grade as I got older. I began to be nervous, anxious, bit my nails/inside my mouth/lips until all three bled, I couldn't go to sleep, I would neglect my hygiene which was mostly just brushing my teeth and showering, I didn't eat a lot, feelings of emptyness, aloneness, and suicide follow along as well. These symptoms have all been recorded by my therapist and diagnosed as Severe Depression and Moderate Anxiety. By the way it is not Bipolar disorder because I never feel any better from any of the symptoms.
Now what is depressing me is that I am the black sheep of my family.


Well I'm email my professor with your symptoms so I'll see what she says, I think your suffering from Dysthymia.
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I know plenty about Major Depressive disorder I'm a Psychology major. And I know that on its own depression will go away in 2 years, but in between medication and therapy will help. Unless your suffering from Dysthymia disorder which is far less sever and easily treated with SSRI's.

Actually I've had depression sense I was 4-5 as my therapist, psychologist, and medical physician have said. It runs in my family and my symptoms started around that age. I'm 16 now so 2 years? I wish. I take large doses of medication everyday and see a regular therapist. Hate to burst your bubble but 3 professionals who have already graduated ,and my doctor is 56 years old and has been a doctor his whole life, so I'm going to have to say that it isn't completely temporary.


Then you are .A. Suffering from a mood disorder, .B. Making it all up .C. All you doctors and therapist are idiots .D. you have Dysthymia and are blowing it out of proportion. And its really odd that I happen to find the 2 percent of children that suffer from depression on Gaia.


I took 3 tests from my therapist to diagnose my disorder. The different ones were for mood,personality, and mental health. The symptoms I speak of came at 4-5 because my father had a terrible accident that almost took his life you see. This caused my mother[as depression runs strong in her side of the family] to become depressed and anxious. As my father was in the hospital I was around my mother all the time and her depression set off mine and I thought my dad was dead. I began to bit my nails, have panic attacks, nightmares, and a slew of other symptoms. It began to grow and get worse with time, as depression does, because it went ignored. Now it is at such a high level I will need medication and therapy my whole life.
Sometimes mental disorders form differently by person. I suppose you know this because of your future practice.


Then you a medical miracle, because I cant find any thing like that in the DSM-IV, and honestly the fact that your arguing about this shows that your not severely depressed. And if you are suffering from depression can you tell me what form?Because the only thing I can find for Chronic Major Depression, is Bipolar 1 and Bipolar 2. And it would really help me if I knew what your were suffering from.

you'd be suprised at how many people suffer from a form of depression, minor or major.
A major disorder such as bipolar, don't just go away, but there is a possibility of supressing them so that the person can lead a somewhat normal life. A mood disorder or depression isn't a death sentance as many people suffering from them think.
I have depression, slightly bipolar, and have a borderline personality disorder, but I've learned to live with them, I've gotten over the suicidal part of me, and I'm actually the happiest I've ever been right now


This chick is claiming to have major Chronic depression from age 5 to age 16 and it hasn't gone away yet with treatment, and its not Bipolar and I cant think of any disorder other than Dysthymia.
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Then you are .A. Suffering from a mood disorder, .B. Making it all up .C. All you doctors and therapist are idiots .D. you have Dysthymia and are blowing it out of proportion. And its really odd that I happen to find the 2 percent of children that suffer from depression on Gaia.


I took 3 tests from my therapist to diagnose my disorder. The different ones were for mood,personality, and mental health. The symptoms I speak of came at 4-5 because my father had a terrible accident that almost took his life you see. This caused my mother[as depression runs strong in her side of the family] to become depressed and anxious. As my father was in the hospital I was around my mother all the time and her depression set off mine and I thought my dad was dead. I began to bit my nails, have panic attacks, nightmares, and a slew of other symptoms. It began to grow and get worse with time, as depression does, because it went ignored. Now it is at such a high level I will need medication and therapy my whole life.
Sometimes mental disorders form differently by person. I suppose you know this because of your future practice.


Then you a medical miracle, because I cant find any thing like that in the DSM-IV, and honestly the fact that your arguing about this shows that your not severely depressed. And if you are suffering from depression can you tell me what form?Because the only thing I can find for Chronic Major Depression, is Bipolar 1 and Bipolar 2. And it would really help me if I knew what your were suffering from.

Well from what I know of child psychology at 4-5 having one parent in the hospital for 4 months and the other one depressed/anxious is NOT helpful. It runs on both sides of my family. I became depressed in the beginning because I had an unstable life. Then it went away for awhile but came back in 5th grade as I got older. I began to be nervous, anxious, bit my nails/inside my mouth/lips until all three bled, I couldn't go to sleep, I would neglect my hygiene which was mostly just brushing my teeth and showering, I didn't eat a lot, feelings of emptyness, aloneness, and suicide follow along as well. These symptoms have all been recorded by my therapist and diagnosed as Severe Depression and Moderate Anxiety. By the way it is not Bipolar disorder because I never feel any better from any of the symptoms.
Now what is depressing me is that I am the black sheep of my family.


Well I'm email my professor with your symptoms so I'll see what she says, I think your suffering from Dysthymia.
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Dysthymic Disorder



Dysthymic Disorder
The second link matches up exactly what my copy of the DSM IV says.
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Then you are .A. Suffering from a mood disorder, .B. Making it all up .C. All you doctors and therapist are idiots .D. you have Dysthymia and are blowing it out of proportion. And its really odd that I happen to find the 2 percent of children that suffer from depression on Gaia.


I took 3 tests from my therapist to diagnose my disorder. The different ones were for mood,personality, and mental health. The symptoms I speak of came at 4-5 because my father had a terrible accident that almost took his life you see. This caused my mother[as depression runs strong in her side of the family] to become depressed and anxious. As my father was in the hospital I was around my mother all the time and her depression set off mine and I thought my dad was dead. I began to bit my nails, have panic attacks, nightmares, and a slew of other symptoms. It began to grow and get worse with time, as depression does, because it went ignored. Now it is at such a high level I will need medication and therapy my whole life.
Sometimes mental disorders form differently by person. I suppose you know this because of your future practice.


Then you a medical miracle, because I cant find any thing like that in the DSM-IV, and honestly the fact that your arguing about this shows that your not severely depressed. And if you are suffering from depression can you tell me what form?Because the only thing I can find for Chronic Major Depression, is Bipolar 1 and Bipolar 2. And it would really help me if I knew what your were suffering from.

you'd be suprised at how many people suffer from a form of depression, minor or major.
A major disorder such as bipolar, don't just go away, but there is a possibility of supressing them so that the person can lead a somewhat normal life. A mood disorder or depression isn't a death sentance as many people suffering from them think.
I have depression, slightly bipolar, and have a borderline personality disorder, but I've learned to live with them, I've gotten over the suicidal part of me, and I'm actually the happiest I've ever been right now


This chick is claiming to have major Chronic depression from age 5 to age 16 and it hasn't gone away yet with treatment, and its not Bipolar and I cant think of any disorder other than Dysthymia.

Hmm. Yes well. "This chick" Only started treatment at age 15. My symptoms started at age 5. Slowed down from 6-9 then started again at 9-16. They only get worse over time and have made it so bad at times where I can't go to school. I feel everything that people with depression do except I never want to leave the house, get out of bed, take care of hygiene needs, eat, talk, move, or anything. The medication keeps me actually going so I really feel I need it. Surprisingly the medication doesn't work 100% and I still feel small depression symptoms on and off.
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Then you a medical miracle, because I cant find any thing like that in the DSM-IV, and honestly the fact that your arguing about this shows that your not severely depressed. And if you are suffering from depression can you tell me what form?Because the only thing I can find for Chronic Major Depression, is Bipolar 1 and Bipolar 2. And it would really help me if I knew what your were suffering from.

Well from what I know of child psychology at 4-5 having one parent in the hospital for 4 months and the other one depressed/anxious is NOT helpful. It runs on both sides of my family. I became depressed in the beginning because I had an unstable life. Then it went away for awhile but came back in 5th grade as I got older. I began to be nervous, anxious, bit my nails/inside my mouth/lips until all three bled, I couldn't go to sleep, I would neglect my hygiene which was mostly just brushing my teeth and showering, I didn't eat a lot, feelings of emptyness, aloneness, and suicide follow along as well. These symptoms have all been recorded by my therapist and diagnosed as Severe Depression and Moderate Anxiety. By the way it is not Bipolar disorder because I never feel any better from any of the symptoms.
Now what is depressing me is that I am the black sheep of my family.


Well I'm email my professor with your symptoms so I'll see what she says, I think your suffering from Dysthymia.
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I think you need to provide sources.




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Dysthymic Disorder



Dysthymic Disorder
The second link matches up exactly what my copy of the DSM IV says.
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Then you a medical miracle, because I cant find any thing like that in the DSM-IV, and honestly the fact that your arguing about this shows that your not severely depressed. And if you are suffering from depression can you tell me what form?Because the only thing I can find for Chronic Major Depression, is Bipolar 1 and Bipolar 2. And it would really help me if I knew what your were suffering from.

Well from what I know of child psychology at 4-5 having one parent in the hospital for 4 months and the other one depressed/anxious is NOT helpful. It runs on both sides of my family. I became depressed in the beginning because I had an unstable life. Then it went away for awhile but came back in 5th grade as I got older. I began to be nervous, anxious, bit my nails/inside my mouth/lips until all three bled, I couldn't go to sleep, I would neglect my hygiene which was mostly just brushing my teeth and showering, I didn't eat a lot, feelings of emptyness, aloneness, and suicide follow along as well. These symptoms have all been recorded by my therapist and diagnosed as Severe Depression and Moderate Anxiety. By the way it is not Bipolar disorder because I never feel any better from any of the symptoms.
Now what is depressing me is that I am the black sheep of my family.


Well I'm email my professor with your symptoms so I'll see what she says, I think your suffering from Dysthymia.
I send my scourge, I send my sword...







I think you need to provide sources.




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Dysthymic Disorder



Dysthymic Disorder
The second link matches up exactly what my copy of the DSM IV says.
Yea that doesn't sound like me really. Depression matches me 99.99% perfectly.
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Then you a medical miracle, because I cant find any thing like that in the DSM-IV, and honestly the fact that your arguing about this shows that your not severely depressed. And if you are suffering from depression can you tell me what form?Because the only thing I can find for Chronic Major Depression, is Bipolar 1 and Bipolar 2. And it would really help me if I knew what your were suffering from.

Well from what I know of child psychology at 4-5 having one parent in the hospital for 4 months and the other one depressed/anxious is NOT helpful. It runs on both sides of my family. I became depressed in the beginning because I had an unstable life. Then it went away for awhile but came back in 5th grade as I got older. I began to be nervous, anxious, bit my nails/inside my mouth/lips until all three bled, I couldn't go to sleep, I would neglect my hygiene which was mostly just brushing my teeth and showering, I didn't eat a lot, feelings of emptyness, aloneness, and suicide follow along as well. These symptoms have all been recorded by my therapist and diagnosed as Severe Depression and Moderate Anxiety. By the way it is not Bipolar disorder because I never feel any better from any of the symptoms.
Now what is depressing me is that I am the black sheep of my family.


Well I'm email my professor with your symptoms so I'll see what she says, I think your suffering from Dysthymia.
I send my scourge, I send my sword...







I think you need to provide sources.




...I send the swarm, I send the horde!



Dysthymic Disorder



Dysthymic Disorder
The second link matches up exactly what my copy of the DSM IV says.
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Well then if she is suffering from Dysthymic Disorder than that's no reason to commit suicide, that's a treatable disorder. Or she could be suffering from double depression, which would really suck. confused
Very tough topic. It's almost like a question I heard earlier this month, : "Is it your duty to live, or your right to die?"
For me, there's a grey area in this topic. Some people may have had a rough life, that would give them a right to die, to end any long-term suffering. On the other hand, It would be unfair to kill yourself whenever you please, if you still have relations with your loved ones, or have very simple, yet substantial reasons to live. If someone wants to die because of minor problems that can be solved without killing themsleves, then that's irrational.
I think I'll have to think about this one..
Yeah, let's completely ignore the family, here. Way to go.

Jimmie kills himself because mommy and daddy wouldn't let him have a dog. Now mom and dad are heartbroken for the REST OF THEIR LIVES and everyone who knew Jimmie is messed up, if temporarily.

If someone had stopped him Jimmie would have gone on to live a reasonable life (just as much as anyone else).

Now, if they truely, adamantly, and RATIONALLY wanted to commit suicide (That's what, 7% of all suicides?) then let them. but no temporary depression s**t. it's better for EVERYONE (except the 7%) if you stop them.
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Yeah, let's completely ignore the family, here. Way to go.

Jimmie kills himself because mommy and daddy wouldn't let him have a dog. Now mom and dad are heartbroken for the REST OF THEIR LIVES and everyone who knew Jimmie is messed up, if temporarily.

If someone had stopped him Jimmie would have gone on to live a reasonable life (just as much as anyone else).

Now, if they truely, adamantly, and RATIONALLY wanted to commit suicide (That's what, 7% of all suicides?) then let them. but no temporary depression s**t. it's better for EVERYONE (except the 7%) if you stop them.

agreed. Same reason why I feel no sympathy for the kid who ran away from home because his parents took away his game console and ended up dying. My sympathies go to his family.

And what does it say about the people who kill themselves in the spurr of the moment, and yet the families and friends left behind, who are completely devastated manage to pull through the pain and live out the rest of their lives.

When my best friend killed herself, her mom didn' join her. she went back to work and moved on with her life. 4 years later it still kills her, but she hasn't commited suicide. she's divorced and her only child killed herself at 14 and she's still living. Unless your suffering from a mental disorder that cannot be cured and has you living in agony 24/7 , or are completely alone in this world, no friends, no family, no nothing. You have no right to take your own life.

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