Should you be allowed to take your own life? *Edited*

should suicide be allowed?

yes?	66.9%	[ 507 ]
no?	33.1%	[ 251 ]
Total Votes:			[ 758 ]

[MarlaCorbin]

Teh Boxman

MarlaCorbin

actually I think only 2 or 3 people out of the 9 pages have actually expressed that it's selfish.

That's not what I meant. In most of the threads on suicide I've been in, as well as some of the posts on the Internet regarding suicide, there are numerous people complaining about how suicide itself is a selfish act and how suicidal people are pansies. I'm really sick of these people and wish they'd keep their mouths shut.

Our choice, our lives, deal with it. People who complain look like even bigger whiners than us, just like those who complain about emo kids are bigger whiners than the emo kids themselves.

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and besides, you don't think that by someone killing themselves (which is their decision) there not selfishly taking themselves away from the people that love them (who don't get to decided to loose them or not)?

Yes. If the people who supposedly "loved" the suicidal truly did love them, they'd let those people kill themselves. Why should we suffer to make someone else happy?

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By being so angry towards the people that have said that, it makes me believe that you also believe that it is selfish, but just don't want to have to deal with that guilt.

If that's what you think, then you don't know what I believe. Suicide is not selfish; it's the people who complain that it's selfish who are selfish.

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I've tried to kill myself in the past, I have my own problems and disorders, and even though at the time, I thought that I would rather be dead then have to live in that agony, I could still admit that by me killing myself, I would be unfairly taking my life away from the people that love me. From the people that had fought to keep me alive. My life isn't completely mine to destroy. It belongs to my parents, my siblings, my friends, my boyfriend. ANyone I love and who loves me. And their lives belong to me just as much as they belong to them. They will protect me at all costs, and I will do the same. I would consider them selfish if they destroyed something that I care about just as much as they did, and I would understand them feeling the same way about me.

How cute. Unfortunately, real life doesn't work that way. Your parents and siblings and friends and what-the-hell may mourn your death, but do you think they'll do it forever? In a year or so they would've moved on and you would've been a memory. Your friends would've found other friends, your boyfriend would've found somebody else, and your family would deal. I don't expect my family to bawl their eyes out for an eternity. Matter of fact, I have a feeling their lives will be a little bit merrier...and so will mine.

Your life is your own, not anyone else's. You're a human being, not a commodity.

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Normally I have a great deal of sympathy and discretion towards people who feel that they can no longer live in this life...but I can't find any for you.

When did I ever ask for you to feel sorry for me? I've come to terms with the fact that it's something I've got to do because I cannot survive any other way, and if people don't want me to go through with it, that's their problem. All I have is my immediate family and two people on the internet who don't even know what I look like. I really have nothing to lose.

you are extremely closed minded. Did you know that? If you have aproblem about what other forums have said, complain to them, not to me.
Stop excluding yourself as the only "suicidal person" like your soooo special because you want to kill yourself, and the rest of the world is so evil that were forcing you to stay alive. The world is NOT out to get you!
Now I'm bored with this argument, so either do it, or stop complaining and get help. Stop blaming the rest of us who don't know you or care for that matter.

[Just Naota]

There's a big difference.

And you're just assuming that I've denied that there IS a law against suicide. I haven't. I wouldn't know. Doesn't change the fact that it can't be enforced.

You can jail a murderer. You can put out laws that'll deter a person from using a gun. You can have officers patrol the streets and keep what they can safe. You can own a weapon. A taser, spray, brass knuckle, or a gun and protect yourself from one who is more than comfortable in harming you. Will there be murders? Of course. But that doesn't change the fact that you can practically stop them from happening.

You shouldn't jail a suicide attempter. And you can't drop legislation on a successful suicide. Neither can you beat them over the head silly until they're unable to kill themselves. All you can do is help them VIA counseling.

You're asking if someone should be allowed to take their own life. And I'm asking: How are you going to stop them from actually doing it?

[MarlaCorbin]

Just Naota

There's a big difference.

And you're just assuming that I've denied that there IS a law against suicide. I haven't. I wouldn't know. Doesn't change the fact that it can't be enforced.

You can jail a murderer. You can put out laws that'll deter a person from using a gun. You can have officers patrol the streets and keep what they can safe. You can own a weapon. A taser, spray, brass knuckle, or a gun and protect yourself from one who is more than comfortable in harming you. Will there be murders? Of course. But that doesn't change the fact that you can practically stop them from happening.

You shouldn't jail a suicide attempter. And you can't drop legislation on a successful suicide. Neither can you beat them over the head silly until they're unable to kill themselves. All you can do is help them VIA counseling.

You're asking if someone should be allowed to take their own life. And I'm asking: How are you going to stop them from actually doing it?

there are ways of preventing suicide. maybe it isn't in the form of a police officer, but more so the people around you. If you are caught attempting it, you are sent to the hospital. You don't get a choice.
There are ways of preventing and detterring people from killing themselves. in fact, you saying that there aren't is pretty presumptuous. so stop telling people they are.

[Just Naota]

I've also said that all you can do is help. And that's all you've brought up. (i.e. your post is made invalid.) Whether it be through hospitalization or therapy. It's help and that's all that you can do.

[Hatsumomo Maiyuki]

I think that if people are really depressed enough and they know that their is no way out of their crappy situation, then of coarse they should be aloud to kill them selves yes it is sad, but thats really the point is it not?

[RadicallyResurrected]

That's kind of a stupid question. I love my girlfriend with all my heart and I would love to have all of her rights secure... but that doesn't exactly mean that I'd let her play in traffic if she likes.

[MarlaCorbin]

Just Naota

I've also said that all you can do is help. And that's all you've brought up. (i.e. your post is made invalid.) Whether it be through hospitalization or therapy. It's help and that's all that you can do.

wait, hold on. what are u arguing again?

it's still against the law to take your own life. the punishment just happens to be hospitalization and therapy >.>

[MarlaCorbin]

RadicallyResurrected

That's kind of a stupid question. I love my girlfriend with all my heart and I would love to have all of her rights secure... but that doesn't exactly mean that I'd let her play in traffic if she likes.

thankyou XD finally

[MarlaCorbin]

Vampirate ninja

I think that if people are really depressed enough and they know that their is no way out of their crappy situation, then of coarse they should be aloud to kill them selves yes it is sad, but thats really the point is it not?

in a state of depression, anyone will feel that there is no reason to live. however a lot of depression sufferers are temporary, hence why it is illigal. with therapy many will live on to lead productive happy lives.
However there are those who suffer incredibly vicious bouts of depression and other mental illnesses that will last for there entire lives. at that point, thoses people should not have to live in pain and suffering. However any suicidal person should have to try every available method of preserving there lives before being allowed to kill themselves

[RadicallyResurrected]

MarlaCorbin

RadicallyResurrected

That's kind of a stupid question. I love my girlfriend with all my heart and I would love to have all of her rights secure... but that doesn't exactly mean that I'd let her play in traffic if she likes.

thankyou XD finally

I'm criticizing you. Making this thread is like asking people if they think people should have the right to breathe.

[marshmallowcreampie]

I don't believe in suicide, but I can't really judge, as I have never been in a situation where my life has gotten that bad. A person's life is their own, and while I may not agree with suicide, I'm not going to go out of my way to stop them if that's what they really want. Still, I think we should try to discourage suicide. A suicidal person may be able to be helped.

[MarlaCorbin]

RadicallyResurrected

MarlaCorbin

RadicallyResurrected

That's kind of a stupid question. I love my girlfriend with all my heart and I would love to have all of her rights secure... but that doesn't exactly mean that I'd let her play in traffic if she likes.

thankyou XD finally

I'm criticizing you. Making this thread is like asking people if they think people should have the right to breathe.

your criticizing me for asking a question? eh, not quite the same thing, but whatever, I still agree with your statement. I'm not gunna change my mind about that just because your criticizing me, even though thats what your intention seemed to be

[Teh Boxman]

MarlaCorbin

you are extremely closed minded. Did you know that?

In some things, maybe, but I know that the world isn't a happy flowery place where everyone gives you hugs and kisses. The reality is that in this world, the only person you can truly rely on is yourself. Nobody else gives a s**t about you.

That's the way it is.

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If you have aproblem about what other forums have said, complain to them, not to me.

When you made this thread, you were going to get differenting opinions. If you couldn't handle that, then why'd you make the thread?

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Stop excluding yourself as the only "suicidal person" like your soooo special because you want to kill yourself, and the rest of the world is so evil that were forcing you to stay alive.

Tsk tsk. You're making assumptions again.

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The world is NOT out to get you!

The world is ALWAYS out to get you. That gives most people a reason to work harder.

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Now I'm bored with this argument,

Like I said before, if you can't handle differenting opinions, then why'd you make the thread?

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so either do it, or stop complaining and get help. Stop blaming the rest of us who don't know you or care for that matter.

The only thing I'm sick of are people who prevent suicidal people from killing themselves for their own selfish reasons, and then turn around and call the suicidal person selfish for wanting to kill themselves.

I'm not blaming anyone for anything.

[MarlaCorbin]

Teh Boxman

MarlaCorbin

you are extremely closed minded. Did you know that?

In some things, maybe, but I know that the world isn't a happy flowery place where everyone gives you hugs and kisses. The reality is that in this world, the only person you can truly rely on is yourself. Nobody else gives a s**t about you.

That's the way it is.

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If you have aproblem about what other forums have said, complain to them, not to me.

When you made this thread, you were going to get differenting opinions. If you couldn't handle that, then why'd you make the thread?

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Stop excluding yourself as the only "suicidal person" like your soooo special because you want to kill yourself, and the rest of the world is so evil that were forcing you to stay alive.

Tsk tsk. You're making assumptions again.

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The world is NOT out to get you!

The world is ALWAYS out to get you. That gives most people a reason to work harder.

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Now I'm bored with this argument,

Like I said before, if you can't handle differenting opinions, then why'd you make the thread?

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so either do it, or stop complaining and get help. Stop blaming the rest of us who don't know you or care for that matter.

The only thing I'm sick of are people who prevent suicidal people from killing themselves for their own selfish reasons, and then turn around and call the suicidal person selfish for wanting to kill themselves.

I'm not blaming anyone for anything.

I really don't care anymore

[MarlaCorbin]

I would just like to say for anyone who has or is thinking of taking their own lives. I truly hope that you can find away to live happily. Hold on for as long as you possibly can, because you never know what you might be missing.
Good luck