School Curriculum

What is your take on the school curriculum?

It's crap. Nothing we learn will help us.	20.3%	[ 14 ]
It's all right. Some of it we'll use in the furture.	50.7%	[ 35 ]
It's pretty good. Most of it we'll be using in the future.	18.8%	[ 13 ]
It's exceptional. We'll be using all of it out in the real world.	2.9%	[ 2 ]
SCREW THE SCHOOL CURRICULUM, I HAVE MONEY!	7.2%	[ 5 ]
Total Votes:			[ 69 ]

This poll closed on June 14, 2009.
No longer accepting new votes.

[Jaithien]

Pasquelle

Shrantic

Pasquelle

Radyrug

Mastermoo

I've thought about this as well. I even asked one of my teachers why we're learning about something so idiotic, and he said, that we're most likely going to need the skill sometime in our life at least once.

But truthfully, I think, how schools should work, is that each student is assigned courses that will actually help them in becoming what they want to be. Not 'You need to take Biology in order to get your credit' when you know you're going to be something completely opposite of that. stressed Sure, there are basics we need to know, but in depth stuff? Just seems silly to me.

What student in high school REALLY knows what they want to be for the rest of their lives? Many adults don't even know what career they would prefer to be in. I imagine in such a setting as high school you'd get people changing their "majors" three+ times a year and no one would ever graduate. :B

I suppose that's true enough. However, there's no denying that many things we're never going to need to know, no matter what field you choose. Worms? Soil? Heck, yeah!

Oh, by the way. Everything I learned in science last year? I forgot.

If you ever own a house and want a half-decent lawn, you'll need to know about worms and soil. Bad example, there, Ben.

Not every part of the soil. Not every part of a soil. All I need to know is: Worms help soil. Soil is good for plants.

if you say so, but how to keep both healthy is important. there are microorganiasms that live in the soil. with out them, the soil is not fertile, and stuff doesn't break down. how not to pollute it I think should be common knowledge.

[Bewbs McBewb]

Pasquelle

Ugh, do I have to say it again?

Like soil. Replace soil with something that will actually be worth while. Say, programming?

You mean the stuff that buildings have to stand on? Oh sure, not important to understand soil at all.

[Dianda Panda]

Why do we need school?

We can google everything. :B

/sarcasm.

If you wouldn't have learned that at school, There'll be a day. You'll be asking yourself
"GAWSH, why didn't they teached me that at school?".

[Jkid4]

The problem with the school curriculum is that they don't teach us things we will really need in the adult world. Public schools don't really teach us real life skills such as how to really get a job or opening a bank account. That's what really needs to be part of the curriculum.

[BeaniesFTW]

Stuch

Pasquelle

Ugh, do I have to say it again?

Like soil. Replace soil with something that will actually be worth while. Say, programming?

You mean the stuff that buildings have to stand on? Oh sure, not important to understand soil at all.

Stuch. I don't know how many times I've said this, but it's been a lot. Do you really need to know all the parts of soil to put it down? All I really need to know is that it's important. Everything else is irrelevent.

[Bewbs McBewb]

Pasquelle

Stuch. I don't know how many times I've said this, but it's been a lot. Do you really need to know all the parts of soil to put it down? All I really need to know is that it's important. Everything else is irrelevent.

Come on kid. It's just school.

In a couple of years you'll be out of that place and you'll be able to learn anything you want, full time. And right now? You can learn anything you like, part time. Just wait until you get a goddamn job and then moan about doing stuff you think is useless. I spent my years in high school learning all kinds of s**t I have never needed.

But that's school. Deal.

[BeaniesFTW]

Stuch

Pasquelle

Stuch. I don't know how many times I've said this, but it's been a lot. Do you really need to know all the parts of soil to put it down? All I really need to know is that it's important. Everything else is irrelevent.

Come on kid. It's just school.

In a couple of years you'll be out of that place and you'll be able to learn anything you want, full time. And right now? You can learn anything you like, part time. Just wait until you get a goddamn job and then moan about doing stuff you think is useless. I spent my years in high school learning all kinds of s**t I have never needed.

But that's school. Deal.

And that's what we're debating on. Is the school curriculum mostly useless? When you get a job, it's a job for a reason. I've got nothing about doing work for a job. But this school work is seemingly unending and useless. That's what I'm against, even though I'm trying as hard as I can in school.

[Shrantic01]

Pasquelle

Stuch

Pasquelle

Stuch. I don't know how many times I've said this, but it's been a lot. Do you really need to know all the parts of soil to put it down? All I really need to know is that it's important. Everything else is irrelevent.

Come on kid. It's just school.

In a couple of years you'll be out of that place and you'll be able to learn anything you want, full time. And right now? You can learn anything you like, part time. Just wait until you get a goddamn job and then moan about doing stuff you think is useless. I spent my years in high school learning all kinds of s**t I have never needed.

But that's school. Deal.

And that's what we're debating on. Is the school curriculum mostly useless? When you get a job, it's a job for a reason. I've got nothing about doing work for a job. But this school work is seemingly unending and useless. That's what I'm against, even though I'm trying as hard as I can in school.

Geez, and you're getting a D?

By the way, get on Gmail.

[vipr230]

Pasquelle

Stuch

Pasquelle

Stuch. I don't know how many times I've said this, but it's been a lot. Do you really need to know all the parts of soil to put it down? All I really need to know is that it's important. Everything else is irrelevent.

Come on kid. It's just school.

In a couple of years you'll be out of that place and you'll be able to learn anything you want, full time. And right now? You can learn anything you like, part time. Just wait until you get a goddamn job and then moan about doing stuff you think is useless. I spent my years in high school learning all kinds of s**t I have never needed.

But that's school. Deal.

And that's what we're debating on. Is the school curriculum mostly useless? When you get a job, it's a job for a reason. I've got nothing about doing work for a job. But this school work is seemingly unending and useless. That's what I'm against, even though I'm trying as hard as I can in school.

What exactly do you propose as an alternitive? Do you honestly believe without compulsory education of core subjects like math english etc we'd have a more informed public and a better society than we do now? And how well are kids able to judge what they want to do as children? Can a 10 year old really be considered wise enough to know what they want to do with their lives and what classes he/she should take to do well in life?

>.> The curriculum covers most bases, it sets up a foundation for numerous subjects and disciplines for people to further educate themselves on. I don't consider this a bad thing.

Edit: My only problem is that it sets up a fairly crappy base -_-; I can't count the number of people who don't understand evolution, can barely get passed algebra, and have the diction of Eliza Doolittle before she met Hitchens.

[BeaniesFTW]

Shrantic

Pasquelle

Stuch

Pasquelle

Stuch. I don't know how many times I've said this, but it's been a lot. Do you really need to know all the parts of soil to put it down? All I really need to know is that it's important. Everything else is irrelevent.

Come on kid. It's just school.

In a couple of years you'll be out of that place and you'll be able to learn anything you want, full time. And right now? You can learn anything you like, part time. Just wait until you get a goddamn job and then moan about doing stuff you think is useless. I spent my years in high school learning all kinds of s**t I have never needed.

But that's school. Deal.

And that's what we're debating on. Is the school curriculum mostly useless? When you get a job, it's a job for a reason. I've got nothing about doing work for a job. But this school work is seemingly unending and useless. That's what I'm against, even though I'm trying as hard as I can in school.

Geez, and you're getting a D?

By the way, get on Gmail.

I was getting a D. Now I'm getting B's.

And I can't. I gotta go to bed soon.

[BeaniesFTW]

vipr230

Pasquelle

Stuch

Pasquelle

Stuch. I don't know how many times I've said this, but it's been a lot. Do you really need to know all the parts of soil to put it down? All I really need to know is that it's important. Everything else is irrelevent.

Come on kid. It's just school.

In a couple of years you'll be out of that place and you'll be able to learn anything you want, full time. And right now? You can learn anything you like, part time. Just wait until you get a goddamn job and then moan about doing stuff you think is useless. I spent my years in high school learning all kinds of s**t I have never needed.

But that's school. Deal.

And that's what we're debating on. Is the school curriculum mostly useless? When you get a job, it's a job for a reason. I've got nothing about doing work for a job. But this school work is seemingly unending and useless. That's what I'm against, even though I'm trying as hard as I can in school.

What exactly do you propose as an alternitive? Do you honestly believe without compulsory education of core subjects like math english etc we'd have a more informed public and a better society than we do now? And how well are kids able to judge what they want to do as children? Can a 10 year old really be considered wise enough to know what they want to do with their lives and what classes he/she should take to do well in life?

>.> The curriculum covers most bases, it sets up a foundation for numerous subjects and disciplines for people to further educate themselves on. I don't consider this a bad thing.

Edit: My only problem is that it sets up a fairly crappy base -_-; I can't count the number of people who don't understand evolution, can barely get passed algebra, and have the diction of Eliza Doolittle before she met Hitchens.

Ok, I changed my mind. No choosing what you want to study. However, all I'm asking for is a better curriculum, with things taught that we can actually use in life.

If in 20 years I find that all the stuff I learned in school has actually helped me in life, then I'll take it back. But right now, I'm just not seeing it.

[vipr230]

Pasquelle

vipr230

Pasquelle

Stuch

Pasquelle

Stuch. I don't know how many times I've said this, but it's been a lot. Do you really need to know all the parts of soil to put it down? All I really need to know is that it's important. Everything else is irrelevent.

Come on kid. It's just school.

In a couple of years you'll be out of that place and you'll be able to learn anything you want, full time. And right now? You can learn anything you like, part time. Just wait until you get a goddamn job and then moan about doing stuff you think is useless. I spent my years in high school learning all kinds of s**t I have never needed.

But that's school. Deal.

And that's what we're debating on. Is the school curriculum mostly useless? When you get a job, it's a job for a reason. I've got nothing about doing work for a job. But this school work is seemingly unending and useless. That's what I'm against, even though I'm trying as hard as I can in school.

What exactly do you propose as an alternitive? Do you honestly believe without compulsory education of core subjects like math english etc we'd have a more informed public and a better society than we do now? And how well are kids able to judge what they want to do as children? Can a 10 year old really be considered wise enough to know what they want to do with their lives and what classes he/she should take to do well in life?

>.> The curriculum covers most bases, it sets up a foundation for numerous subjects and disciplines for people to further educate themselves on. I don't consider this a bad thing.

Edit: My only problem is that it sets up a fairly crappy base -_-; I can't count the number of people who don't understand evolution, can barely get passed algebra, and have the diction of Eliza Doolittle before she met Hitchens.

Ok, I changed my mind. No choosing what you want to study. However, all I'm asking for is a better curriculum, with things taught that we can actually use in life.

If in 20 years I find that all the stuff I learned in school has actually helped me in life, then I'll take it back. But right now, I'm just not seeing it.

Such as? What do you want taught? Do you advocate abolishing US history? Chem? Physics? By the way, keep in mind how dangerous ignorance can become, do you realize how many people say "don't waste money doing fruit fly research" because they don't have a decent background in biology? Even Sarah Palin mimicked the same idea, if the electorate is horribly uninformed society can suffer as a whole when the electorate can control some of the cash flow.

[ScholasticaScottora]

You need to know a variety of things to be an educated/well-rounded individual.
As far as Cornell notes go, I actually find them to be quite helpful in my (ridiculously hard) college art history classes.
Once you're in college, you'll see the relationships between things better. As an art major attaining K-12 Teacher Licensure (read: I'm studying to be an art teacher), I'm seeing how science, math, literature, theology, etc., all relate to art. Other subjects and areas of interest work the same way.
As much as I complained in high school, it really is relevant.
One thing that I can honestly say I have never used, however, is the spanish vocabulary for "to go scuba diving." Because, really, how often do you say that?

[Rackmaster]

Honestly, I think kids have it easy. I remember when kids would complain about the materials because the teachers couldn't teach it in a context that applied to real life. Sciences, English and History were easy enough, but most kids faltered on math once they hit high school because it became too complex and no longer seemed to pertain to real life.

As for my view, I wish the school hours could be changed so kids would go 9 to 5, to prep the children for a 'real job.' Our school hours were 8 to 3, just think of how much a difference one hour would make. I'm also all for making the year longer since the days of most kids helping out on the farm are gone.

Most of what I learned in high school, I could have done in middle school. There should have been an entire year devoted to grammar at an earlier time, I didn't get this until tenth grade! I could have handled more complex math earlier and literature was a complete joke to me. I honestly wish school would have been harder, and I took mostly Honors and AP classes in high school.

Also, a longer day and a longer year would allow teachers to make homework purely supplemental and not necessary to passing. Teachers have such an outrageous curriculum these days and they simply do not have the time to teach everything amongst stadardized tests.

I apologize for the tangent, I could go more in-depth but I dont want to write a book.