Rape vs Murder

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TheSilverNoble

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TheSilverNoble

I think it's because sometimes murder and violence can be justified. Those that commit such acts, even in the movies, usually have some justification one can understand. And while their motives may not always excuse them, as I said, we can at least understand.

Take Saw for example. As I understand, the killer is usually punishing someone, trying to teach them some kind of lesson. And while he may be doing so in a horrific manner, we can see how someone with a twisted mind could see how many of those people "deserve it."

No such justification can exist for rape.

I think a justification could exist, but it would be a poor one and certainly one that many people would not be able to grasp, and rightly so.

Well I think most will have some kind justification, (she really wanted it, etc), and some may even believe them. But most of the time I think it will boil down to they wanted it and they didn't care.
I don't accept that as a real justification.

I agree, which is why I said that a justification could be made, just not a good one, and rightly so deemed not good.

[Prince Yasui Erikai]

Sam Warren

Prince Yasui Erikai

Well, if you think about it, there are all kinds of movies with different things (or people) killing. Dolls, young children, ghost, demons, men, women, God, Lucifer, Angels, disease, vampires, mutated animals.. The list goes on. However, rape is usually looked at as a male forcing a female to have sex. If it was a female forcing a male or female, I don't think anyone would have too much of a problem with it.

There is actually a movie called Jaded which is about female on female sexual violence. It was controversial in it's time. Jaded.

I've seen more than just one or two movies and/or books where the female was the aggressor. Even with the material out there, you don't see too many people complaining, becoming offended, leaving the movie theater, and/or writing bad reviews about it.

[TheSilverNoble]

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TheSilverNoble

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TheSilverNoble

I think it's because sometimes murder and violence can be justified. Those that commit such acts, even in the movies, usually have some justification one can understand. And while their motives may not always excuse them, as I said, we can at least understand.

Take Saw for example. As I understand, the killer is usually punishing someone, trying to teach them some kind of lesson. And while he may be doing so in a horrific manner, we can see how someone with a twisted mind could see how many of those people "deserve it."

No such justification can exist for rape.

I think a justification could exist, but it would be a poor one and certainly one that many people would not be able to grasp, and rightly so.

Well I think most will have some kind justification, (she really wanted it, etc), and some may even believe them. But most of the time I think it will boil down to they wanted it and they didn't care.
I don't accept that as a real justification.

I agree, which is why I said that a justification could be made, just not a good one, and rightly so deemed not good.

yeah I dunno why I thought you were disagreeing with me. O_o

[magicskittles08]

Because murdered people don't live to tell their sob stories. Also, murdered people are not in the audience. Rape victims I can 100% guarantee are.

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ohai_alyssa

My reasons:

*Rape is showed less in all media productions, thus the viewer being less used to it, causing a larger outrage.

*Rape is usually (don't start calling me sexist- you know it's true) a man raping a woman. Most of the time. Now I'm not saying that the movie itself is sexist, but woman are (once again, overall, this is true) considered by society to be the weaker sex. It's been that way for generations. So, by a scene of a man raping a woman, it's not only awkward- but considered politically incorrect. So... it's kind of "worse" in that aspect. Because killing someone isn't as politically incorrect. Yes, I just said that. Why? Because, a man can kill a woman, a woman can kill a man, hell, in most movies today they'res psychopathic four year olds killing people. But how many times in movies do you see a woman raping a man? You don't. Now I'm not saying that taking someone's life is more morally stable than rape, in fact I am not saying that at all, but it's simply less "wrong". Note the quotations.

*I also think, as others have stated, sex scenes are much more realistic than murder scenes... (how many times do you hear irl of a saw act occuring?) But rape DOES happen. So, it's more... scary. Seriously. Not to mention sex itself is dramatic to watch in media.

I know I'm gonna get a million "SEXIST! YOU'RE CALLING MEN RAPISTS!" Responses. However, that's not what I'm trying to point out here

I completely agree with you.

[Mera1506]

The fact that murder has lost the seriousness is bad enough. The same shouldn't happen to rape, although that's probably already been happening. That girl in californie who was at a schoolparty and was robbed, beaten and gangrape while onlookers watched, laughed and joined in and no one called the police until like two and a half hours later? Sounds to me like rape too is loosing its seriousness.

[Koonsaia]

You're right we are more accustomed to seeing murder than to seeing rape. I don't think we should play more sex and things on screen but maybe show less corrupt murders so maybe it will diminish. But in today’s society sex on screen is becoming more common.