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6.13 pm: Malaysian flight MH17 had clean maintenance record, says airline

The Malaysia Airlines plane that crashed in rebel-held territory in eastern Ukraine killing 298 passengers on board, had a clean maintenance record, AFP quoted an airline official as saying on Friday.

"The aircraft had a clean maintenance record," Malaysia Airlines' European vice president Huib Gorter said, adding "all systems on the aircraft were running normally" when contact was lost.

5.55 pm: Putin asks warring sides in Ukraine to lay down arms

Vladimir Putin has told warring sides in Ukraine to lay down their arms and engage in talks, reports Associated Press.

Meanwhile AFP reports Putin saying he was in touch with Ukraine leaders, hopes crisis will be solved.

5.38 pm: Russia won't take flight MH17 black boxes, says Sergei Lavrov

According to Reuters, Russia does not plan to take the "black box" flight recorders from a Malaysian airliner downed in territory held by pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Friday.

"Despite what Kiev is again saying, we do not plan to take these (black) boxes. We do not plan to violate existing (international) norms for such situations," Lavrov said in an interview with Russian state television.

"We want international experts to get to the site of the crash as soon as possible so that they get the black boxes right away."

1.19 pm: Putin calls up Dutch PM, seeks urgent settlement of Ukraine crisis

Russian President Vladimir Putin called for an urgent settlement of the Ukraine crisis Friday as he expressed condolences to Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte over the Malaysian jet crash.

"The head of Russia stressed that the tragedy once again highlighted the need for an urgent peaceful settlement of the most acute crisis in Ukraine and noted there is a need for a thorough and objective investigation of the air crash," the Kremlin said in a statement after Putin spoke with Rutte by phone.


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6.13 pm: Malaysian flight MH17 had clean maintenance record, says airline

The Malaysia Airlines plane that crashed in rebel-held territory in eastern Ukraine killing 298 passengers on board, had a clean maintenance record, AFP quoted an airline official as saying on Friday.

"The aircraft had a clean maintenance record," Malaysia Airlines' European vice president Huib Gorter said, adding "all systems on the aircraft were running normally" when contact was lost.

5.55 pm: Putin asks warring sides in Ukraine to lay down arms

Vladimir Putin has told warring sides in Ukraine to lay down their arms and engage in talks, reports Associated Press.

Meanwhile AFP reports Putin saying he was in touch with Ukraine leaders, hopes crisis will be solved.

5.38 pm: Russia won't take flight MH17 black boxes, says Sergei Lavrov

According to Reuters, Russia does not plan to take the "black box" flight recorders from a Malaysian airliner downed in territory held by pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Friday.

"Despite what Kiev is again saying, we do not plan to take these (black) boxes. We do not plan to violate existing (international) norms for such situations," Lavrov said in an interview with Russian state television.

"We want international experts to get to the site of the crash as soon as possible so that they get the black boxes right away."

1.19 pm: Putin calls up Dutch PM, seeks urgent settlement of Ukraine crisis

Russian President Vladimir Putin called for an urgent settlement of the Ukraine crisis Friday as he expressed condolences to Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte over the Malaysian jet crash.

"The head of Russia stressed that the tragedy once again highlighted the need for an urgent peaceful settlement of the most acute crisis in Ukraine and noted there is a need for a thorough and objective investigation of the air crash," the Kremlin said in a statement after Putin spoke with Rutte by phone.


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You wish. Putin is smart as hell and is probably pretty damn certain that the Ukrainians shot that plane down, and this will swing the court of public opinion in his favor, and he can then take the gloves off and launch a full offensive with the blessing of the UN.
If the Ukrainians did shoot that plane down? They're ********.

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6.13 pm: Malaysian flight MH17 had clean maintenance record, says airline

The Malaysia Airlines plane that crashed in rebel-held territory in eastern Ukraine killing 298 passengers on board, had a clean maintenance record, AFP quoted an airline official as saying on Friday.

"The aircraft had a clean maintenance record," Malaysia Airlines' European vice president Huib Gorter said, adding "all systems on the aircraft were running normally" when contact was lost.

5.55 pm: Putin asks warring sides in Ukraine to lay down arms

Vladimir Putin has told warring sides in Ukraine to lay down their arms and engage in talks, reports Associated Press.

Meanwhile AFP reports Putin saying he was in touch with Ukraine leaders, hopes crisis will be solved.

5.38 pm: Russia won't take flight MH17 black boxes, says Sergei Lavrov

According to Reuters, Russia does not plan to take the "black box" flight recorders from a Malaysian airliner downed in territory held by pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Friday.

"Despite what Kiev is again saying, we do not plan to take these (black) boxes. We do not plan to violate existing (international) norms for such situations," Lavrov said in an interview with Russian state television.

"We want international experts to get to the site of the crash as soon as possible so that they get the black boxes right away."

1.19 pm: Putin calls up Dutch PM, seeks urgent settlement of Ukraine crisis

Russian President Vladimir Putin called for an urgent settlement of the Ukraine crisis Friday as he expressed condolences to Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte over the Malaysian jet crash.

"The head of Russia stressed that the tragedy once again highlighted the need for an urgent peaceful settlement of the most acute crisis in Ukraine and noted there is a need for a thorough and objective investigation of the air crash," the Kremlin said in a statement after Putin spoke with Rutte by phone.


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You wish. Putin is smart as hell and is probably pretty damn certain that the Ukrainians shot that plane down, and this will swing the court of public opinion in his favor, and he can then take the gloves off and launch a full offensive with the blessing of the UN.
If the Ukrainians did shoot that plane down? They're ********]

Ukrainians did not

They have nothing to shoot at what would need a Buk missile system active .

It's going to be the Rebels

Putin is now praying that said Buk missile system was nicked from the Ukrainian Forces and not a "gift" from Russian forces.

Because if it was a gift then Russia is in the deepest s**t.

They lost East Ukraine anyway can't supply the rebels anymore in case they end up ******** up again.

Europe has the justification to put forces in Ukraine now.
Ukraine has the justification to put down the rebels as hard as they please.
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6.13 pm: Malaysian flight MH17 had clean maintenance record, says airline

The Malaysia Airlines plane that crashed in rebel-held territory in eastern Ukraine killing 298 passengers on board, had a clean maintenance record, AFP quoted an airline official as saying on Friday.

"The aircraft had a clean maintenance record," Malaysia Airlines' European vice president Huib Gorter said, adding "all systems on the aircraft were running normally" when contact was lost.

5.55 pm: Putin asks warring sides in Ukraine to lay down arms

Vladimir Putin has told warring sides in Ukraine to lay down their arms and engage in talks, reports Associated Press.

Meanwhile AFP reports Putin saying he was in touch with Ukraine leaders, hopes crisis will be solved.

5.38 pm: Russia won't take flight MH17 black boxes, says Sergei Lavrov

According to Reuters, Russia does not plan to take the "black box" flight recorders from a Malaysian airliner downed in territory held by pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Friday.

"Despite what Kiev is again saying, we do not plan to take these (black) boxes. We do not plan to violate existing (international) norms for such situations," Lavrov said in an interview with Russian state television.

"We want international experts to get to the site of the crash as soon as possible so that they get the black boxes right away."

1.19 pm: Putin calls up Dutch PM, seeks urgent settlement of Ukraine crisis

Russian President Vladimir Putin called for an urgent settlement of the Ukraine crisis Friday as he expressed condolences to Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte over the Malaysian jet crash.

"The head of Russia stressed that the tragedy once again highlighted the need for an urgent peaceful settlement of the most acute crisis in Ukraine and noted there is a need for a thorough and objective investigation of the air crash," the Kremlin said in a statement after Putin spoke with Rutte by phone.


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You wish. Putin is smart as hell and is probably pretty damn certain that the Ukrainians shot that plane down, and this will swing the court of public opinion in his favor, and he can then take the gloves off and launch a full offensive with the blessing of the UN.
If the Ukrainians did shoot that plane down? They're ********]

Ukrainians did not

They have nothing to shoot at what would need a Buk missile system active .

It's going to be the Rebels

Putin is now praying that said Buk missile system was nicked from the Ukrainian Forces and not a "gift" from Russian forces.

Because if it was a gift then Russia is in the deepest s**t.

They lost East Ukraine anyway can't supply the rebels anymore in case they end up ******** up again.

Europe has the justification to put forces in Ukraine now.
Ukraine has the justification to put down the rebels as hard as they please.


Actually, all Europe has is the right to jump up and down and scream impotently in rage. If they set on foot in Russian territory it will be considered an act of war that Europe will be blamed for, and bluntly, the EU doesn't have the stomach for it.
As far as the if it was Russian made goes? Irrelevant as long as it wasn't Russian forces that fired it. More than one country watches this type of s**t and goes '******** I hope we didn't sell them that'.
As for if the Rebels had such tech? It's possible. Enough Ukranian and Russian s**t missing that it'll be very easy to blame someone else.

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6.13 pm: Malaysian flight MH17 had clean maintenance record, says airline

The Malaysia Airlines plane that crashed in rebel-held territory in eastern Ukraine killing 298 passengers on board, had a clean maintenance record, AFP quoted an airline official as saying on Friday.

"The aircraft had a clean maintenance record," Malaysia Airlines' European vice president Huib Gorter said, adding "all systems on the aircraft were running normally" when contact was lost.

5.55 pm: Putin asks warring sides in Ukraine to lay down arms

Vladimir Putin has told warring sides in Ukraine to lay down their arms and engage in talks, reports Associated Press.

Meanwhile AFP reports Putin saying he was in touch with Ukraine leaders, hopes crisis will be solved.

5.38 pm: Russia won't take flight MH17 black boxes, says Sergei Lavrov

According to Reuters, Russia does not plan to take the "black box" flight recorders from a Malaysian airliner downed in territory held by pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Friday.

"Despite what Kiev is again saying, we do not plan to take these (black) boxes. We do not plan to violate existing (international) norms for such situations," Lavrov said in an interview with Russian state television.

"We want international experts to get to the site of the crash as soon as possible so that they get the black boxes right away."

1.19 pm: Putin calls up Dutch PM, seeks urgent settlement of Ukraine crisis

Russian President Vladimir Putin called for an urgent settlement of the Ukraine crisis Friday as he expressed condolences to Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte over the Malaysian jet crash.

"The head of Russia stressed that the tragedy once again highlighted the need for an urgent peaceful settlement of the most acute crisis in Ukraine and noted there is a need for a thorough and objective investigation of the air crash," the Kremlin said in a statement after Putin spoke with Rutte by phone.


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You wish. Putin is smart as hell and is probably pretty damn certain that the Ukrainians shot that plane down, and this will swing the court of public opinion in his favor, and he can then take the gloves off and launch a full offensive with the blessing of the UN.
If the Ukrainians did shoot that plane down? They're ********]

Ukrainians did not

They have nothing to shoot at what would need a Buk missile system active .

It's going to be the Rebels

Putin is now praying that said Buk missile system was nicked from the Ukrainian Forces and not a "gift" from Russian forces.

Because if it was a gift then Russia is in the deepest s**t.

They lost East Ukraine anyway can't supply the rebels anymore in case they end up ******** up again.

Europe has the justification to put forces in Ukraine now.
Ukraine has the justification to put down the rebels as hard as they please.


Actually, all Europe has is the right to jump up and down and scream impotently in rage. If they set on foot in Russian territory it will be considered an act of war that Europe will be blamed for, and bluntly, the EU doesn't have the stomach for it.
As far as the if it was Russian made goes? Irrelevant as long as it wasn't Russian forces that fired it. More than one country watches this type of s**t and goes '******** I hope we didn't sell them that'.
As for if the Rebels had such tech? It's possible. Enough Ukranian and Russian s**t missing that it'll be very easy to blame someone else.


The EU can enter all Easten Ukraine right up to the Russian border shooting the rebels as it goes and Russia could not do s**t.


If Russia armed and/or "trained" the rebels to use the system then the fault on them and massive fallout will be had by all.

It has to be the Rebels no reason for Ukraine to suspect the plane, and no reason for Russia to fire over their border.
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You wish. Putin is smart as hell and is probably pretty damn certain that the Ukrainians shot that plane down, and this will swing the court of public opinion in his favor, and he can then take the gloves off and launch a full offensive with the blessing of the UN.
If the Ukrainians did shoot that plane down? They're ********]
Even without knowledge of the two other Ukrainian military planes down by separatists in that region in the past week, the cell phone videos showing the BUK system being carted into Torez and back out, the (now deleted) bragging posts on VK and Twitter, the Ukraine released radio chatter of the separatists finding out that MH17 was an airliner and NOT a military aircraft after they shot it down ...

Ukraine is not shooting at Russian planes and the separatists don't even have planes. It does not make a lick of sense that the Ukraine military would even be pointing missiles up into air in the first place.

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You know, even though most Gaians are probably sympathetic to Ukraine, I doubt that there are any Gaians who are additionally sympathetic to racist, far-right nationalist political parties.

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Like roosters said, putin the p***y. Put in the p***y.
This has happened a half-dozen times before. Passenger jets being shot down by military personnel, we've forgotten them and we'll forget this no matter who pulled the trigger.

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