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So, recently, I was listening to a conversation on the radio about the long term effects of girls and guys who take pictures of themselves and send them to each other via personal messages or social media.
I believe that some of it comes down to the likes of social media and high tech mobile phones and cameras that come include that can flare up a situation unnecessarily.

Break ups can be nasty and can cause problems around school and the outside world that can be damaging psychologically to the victim involved but who is to blame for the picture getting out first?

Could it be the fault of the person who took and sent the picture on a phone? People should have more sense than to expose themselves to the likes of the internet or other people they don't know well, but also it can be the fault of the person who (for example broke up a relationship) showed their friends as a sort of payback on the ex who sent the picture.

But would it also be the fault of the parents? They may have provided a high tech phone for their child that comes with social media and a good camera.

I don't think that children or teens need an iPhone or an advanced phone. They should only need a simple phone that calls and send texts so they can tell their parents where they are.

Even though children are growing up in a more technological world, maybe their parents should teach them the dangers of exposing themselves or using social media and explaining the risks they impose when images get out online. Nothing is safe in the world now.

What are people's opinions on this topic?
What advice would you give to prevent the dangers of taking photos online?
Would you do it or have you already done it once before?
What lengths would you go to impress someone you potentially don't know, especially if they're from the internet?

Hygienic Noob

Unfortunately parents allow their teens to play with technology without understanding it and letting them at it unsupervised.

The sooner that parents understand that technology is NOT the place to allow your child privacy the better. Let them have their little private notebook/diary at home on paper. Children and teens in particular need to understand that when they commit something to digital memory it's permanent. It's not like a sex tape back in the 80's where you have to find the physical tape and actually hand it to the person to see. Now it's as easy as re-posting something on a website.

That said, I blame both children for the pictures. Underage pictures are child porn. A child taking a picture of themselves naked is producing child porn, the person sharing it is a distributor.

When it comes to adults, they can use their best judgement for these things. There needs to be stricter laws about sharing private n***s. I do believe they are cracking down on that anyway. In the mean time, people need to learn to be safe with technology. You don't give out your address and location, you don't send n***s.

Fanatical Zealot

I put it on the person spreading the pictures around, and don't blame the victim.

But uh, it should be said that if you don't want to be a victim, just don't share your naked pictures with others, or don't take them in the first place. If you want to show it to someone, do it on your own phone or computer, and don't send it over the phone or the internet.

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Don't distribute n***s to anyone if you can't handle the distinct possibility that people other than the intended audience may see them. This was true even before the internet.

Calling this distribution of child porn hinges on a pretty weak technicality that overlooks the actual reason child porn is illegal - namely the abuse of a child by an adult during production. Punishing teens for taking pictures of themselves is an almost insane notion.

The parents shouldn't be blamed for providing media devices. They're only to blame for raising imprudent children.

Aside from the embarrassment of having a bunch of people see you naked, this seems very much like a non-issue.

Hygienic Noob

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Don't distribute n***s to anyone if you can't handle the distinct possibility that people other than the intended audience may see them. This was true even before the internet.

Calling this distribution of child porn hinges on a pretty weak technicality that overlooks the actual reason child porn is illegal - namely the abuse of a child by an adult during production. Punishing teens for taking pictures of themselves is an almost insane notion.

The parents shouldn't be blamed for providing media devices. They're only to blame for raising imprudent children.

Aside from the embarrassment of having a bunch of people see you naked, this seems very much like a non-issue.


I'm not saying teens should be permanently put on the sex offenders list for taking pictures of themselves. I'm less inclined to show leniency to the idiots distributing it, they should be slapped to the letter of the law.

But we punish teens for drinking underage, I don't see a problem slapping them with a fine and misdemeanor charge that will disappear when they're 18. There's just some things you're not allowed to do until you're an adult and nude photos are one of them.

People leak photos as a form of revenge to humiliate the victim. It's a big deal to the victim (especially a teen who's not confident to begin with) to have all your friends and family see that.

Luckily with the JLaw leaks people's attitudes are starting to change and they are starting to sympathize with the victims and blame the distributors as they should.

Dapper Reveler

What if they draw themselves and mail it to each other?

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TKya Amaterasu
So, recently, I was listening to a conversation on the radio about the long term effects of girls and guys who take pictures of themselves and send them to each other via personal messages or social media.
I believe that some of it comes down to the likes of social media and high tech mobile phones and cameras that come include that can flare up a situation unnecessarily.

Break ups can be nasty and can cause problems around school and the outside world that can be damaging psychologically to the victim involved but who is to blame for the picture getting out first?

Could it be the fault of the person who took and sent the picture on a phone?


In short, nobody can exploit pictures you don't take. It's not solely their fault, obviously. It's about 70 / 30. 70 the person who exploited the pictures, and 30 the person who took them to begin with.

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But would it also be the fault of the parents? They may have provided a high tech phone for their child that comes with social media and a good camera.


In some round-about way, I suppose you could argue that. But really, at some age, the parents can only be responsible for so much.

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I don't think that children or teens need an iPhone or an advanced phone. They should only need a simple phone that calls and send texts so they can tell their parents where they are.


I'm surprised there isn't technology on these newer phones that works like a V-Chip in the TVs. Where parents can regulate the features and such. Maybe have a parental lock that requires the parents approve any and all pics being sent out in texts / social media, and blocking phone access to only parent approved phone numbers and emergency numbers.

Seems a bit strange to me, that amid all this controversy about sexting, nobody's tackled this, yet.

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Even though children are growing up in a more technological world, maybe their parents should teach them the dangers of exposing themselves or using social media and explaining the risks they impose when images get out online. Nothing is safe in the world now.


Sometimes it's not a matter of ignorance, but defiance. Ignorance means you were never made aware. Some know the dangers, and do it anyway.

For example, the government is trying to tell me that I do not "need" an AR-15, and they do not want me having one (Feds, that is. MO state tells me "do whatever you want", just don't hurt anyone ). Guess what I'm buying in a few weeks. And guess WHY.

What are people's opinions on this topic?
What advice would you give to prevent the dangers of taking photos online?

"Don't give n***s to people you can't fully trust ( and even then, really evaluate if they are trustworthy ), and you won't have to drink bleach." Also, remind them that producing / receiving n***s of underage individuals is a serious felony charge that never goes away. Think it through. The short term satisfaction is not worth the long term consequences.

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Would you do it or have you already done it once before?


Unlikely. But under the right circumstances, anything's possible. But I'm also a fully grown, mature adult with sound mind, and a keen sense of judgment.

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What lengths would you go to impress someone you potentially don't know, especially if they're from the internet?


Basically, it comes down to "like me, love me, or go to hell".

Super Cyclops

I suppose you can always blame the society - in this case, teens themselves for developing this trend that you hafta send eachother neckid pics cos everyone does it. Basic reasoning imputes it's a stupid thing to do but ya can't be different than everyone else, now can you?

Whether you like it or not, online nothing's private, and no one can assure who stumbles upon the stuff you send privately (so you hope), and what he/she/it is gonna do with it. Not to mention the person you sent them pics can publish them to spite you.

I guess it's the parent's fault too for not imprinting in their kids' subconciousness that you should be very very very careful about your pirvacy nowadays (someone's gonna film you with their phone and you won't even know). But who listens to parents, they're old-school (and half of the time they don't realise either).

How to (at least try to) avoid all that stuff? Just say 'no'.
I agree with most posters on this topic.
Common sense would say that, as an individual, it is probably unwise to put yourself in a position where you could be compromised in ways you have no control over.

That being said, I think what parents of our generation are beginning to learn is that there are many sides to being exposed on the internet. Most parents have a quick talk about things getting around, without much emphasis unfortunately, but it is still one of those almost all parents lecture their children about.

What parents don't usually talk about is being a 'bully' or otherwise taking advantage of people online. It's not one of those things that are really discussed from that perspective. I think it's definitely something that needs to be a talk, like how much this can effect a person, how sacred someone being vulnerable is to you.

In that way I do sort of blame society - the threat of exposure is "imminent" and therefore is a devious and easy way to get back at someone. No one gets mad at the person who spreads an image, only the person to take it. It's practically guilt-free. More emphasis definitely needs to be put on not only protecting yourself as an internet crusader, but also towards being a civil person and the importance of morality.

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I've always learnt from what I have seen but I'm no innocent either in any negative situation. I Lear ed from them though. All I know is it's happening everywhere and teens should go, "I'm not going to do it. If that's happened to them then I won't let it happen to me." All comes down to one thing: Peer pressure.

This topic has been quite good to read. Some good honest people here. Sensible people 👍

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Don't distribute n***s to anyone if you can't handle the distinct possibility that people other than the intended audience may see them. This was true even before the internet.

Calling this distribution of child porn hinges on a pretty weak technicality that overlooks the actual reason child porn is illegal - namely the abuse of a child by an adult during production. Punishing teens for taking pictures of themselves is an almost insane notion.

The parents shouldn't be blamed for providing media devices. They're only to blame for raising imprudent children.

Aside from the embarrassment of having a bunch of people see you naked, this seems very much like a non-issue.


I'm not saying teens should be permanently put on the sex offenders list for taking pictures of themselves. I'm less inclined to show leniency to the idiots distributing it, they should be slapped to the letter of the law.

But we punish teens for drinking underage, I don't see a problem slapping them with a fine and misdemeanor charge that will disappear when they're 18. There's just some things you're not allowed to do until you're an adult and nude photos are one of them.

People leak photos as a form of revenge to humiliate the victim. It's a big deal to the victim (especially a teen who's not confident to begin with) to have all your friends and family see that.

Luckily with the JLaw leaks people's attitudes are starting to change and they are starting to sympathize with the victims and blame the distributors as they should.


I figure the embarrassment of having your photos leaked is punishment enough. Do we really need to fine them, charge them with anything, much less introduce the stigma of "child pornography"? It's not as if a teenager taking a nude photo of themselves for their also underage partner is engaging in child abuse of some kind.

I just don't see the point of using the legal system to stick it to the person who is apparently already a victim we should sympathize with. Punishing the person who maliciously distributed the photo makes sense to me, though.

Hygienic Noob

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Don't distribute n***s to anyone if you can't handle the distinct possibility that people other than the intended audience may see them. This was true even before the internet.

Calling this distribution of child porn hinges on a pretty weak technicality that overlooks the actual reason child porn is illegal - namely the abuse of a child by an adult during production. Punishing teens for taking pictures of themselves is an almost insane notion.

The parents shouldn't be blamed for providing media devices. They're only to blame for raising imprudent children.

Aside from the embarrassment of having a bunch of people see you naked, this seems very much like a non-issue.


I'm not saying teens should be permanently put on the sex offenders list for taking pictures of themselves. I'm less inclined to show leniency to the idiots distributing it, they should be slapped to the letter of the law.

But we punish teens for drinking underage, I don't see a problem slapping them with a fine and misdemeanor charge that will disappear when they're 18. There's just some things you're not allowed to do until you're an adult and nude photos are one of them.

People leak photos as a form of revenge to humiliate the victim. It's a big deal to the victim (especially a teen who's not confident to begin with) to have all your friends and family see that.

Luckily with the JLaw leaks people's attitudes are starting to change and they are starting to sympathize with the victims and blame the distributors as they should.


I figure the embarrassment of having your photos leaked is punishment enough. Do we really need to fine them, charge them with anything, much less introduce the stigma of "child pornography"? It's not as if a teenager taking a nude photo of themselves for their also underage partner is engaging in child abuse of some kind.

I just don't see the point of using the legal system to stick it to the person who is apparently already a victim we should sympathize with. Punishing the person who maliciously distributed the photo makes sense to me, though.


Underage rape victims at parties rarely get charged with and MUI. But, it's a good deterrent to have for victimless drinkers.

Perhaps not charging a victim in an open case, but there needs to be some sort of incentive not to do it in the first place.

Super Cyclops

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Don't distribute n***s to anyone if you can't handle the distinct possibility that people other than the intended audience may see them. This was true even before the internet.

Calling this distribution of child porn hinges on a pretty weak technicality that overlooks the actual reason child porn is illegal - namely the abuse of a child by an adult during production. Punishing teens for taking pictures of themselves is an almost insane notion.

The parents shouldn't be blamed for providing media devices. They're only to blame for raising imprudent children.

Aside from the embarrassment of having a bunch of people see you naked, this seems very much like a non-issue.


I'm not saying teens should be permanently put on the sex offenders list for taking pictures of themselves. I'm less inclined to show leniency to the idiots distributing it, they should be slapped to the letter of the law.

But we punish teens for drinking underage, I don't see a problem slapping them with a fine and misdemeanor charge that will disappear when they're 18. There's just some things you're not allowed to do until you're an adult and nude photos are one of them.

People leak photos as a form of revenge to humiliate the victim. It's a big deal to the victim (especially a teen who's not confident to begin with) to have all your friends and family see that.

Luckily with the JLaw leaks people's attitudes are starting to change and they are starting to sympathize with the victims and blame the distributors as they should.


I figure the embarrassment of having your photos leaked is punishment enough. Do we really need to fine them, charge them with anything, much less introduce the stigma of "child pornography"? It's not as if a teenager taking a nude photo of themselves for their also underage partner is engaging in child abuse of some kind.

I just don't see the point of using the legal system to stick it to the person who is apparently already a victim we should sympathize with. Punishing the person who maliciously distributed the photo makes sense to me, though.

That's true, as long there's a lesson learned from it, and not "aw hell, that ended bad but who sez it'll be the same in the future?". I don't see how punishing the victim further would help anything either, which doesn't change the fact that some people don't learn.

Victims get stigmatised cos that's how the system, which is blind and mindless, works. It doesn't matter that you and your partner were both 13 when you got it on. To the system both of you are child abusers. Unless someone along the treadmill thinks for a second.

Garbage

You are responsible for the security of the content you create. If you distribute it, you need to accept that it may be distributed beyond your intent. That doesn't make it your fault, but it is still your responsibility.

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