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My parents frequently snooped in my room, but all they had to refer to were drawings.
So I always had to make a point to present an equal number of 'positive' and 'negative' imagery. |
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I once walked into the room and found my sister and my Mom reading my diary out loud. They said it was because it was they were worried about me.
So yeah, I think diaries should be kept private. |
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Imaginary Marionette I once walked into the room and found my sister and my Mom reading my diary out loud. They said it was because it was they were worried about me. So yeah, I think diaries should be kept private. And I think this brings up another point. Isn't it a natural thing for a parent to worry about their children? They could just use the excuse of "I was worried about her/him" to get away with reading their son/daughter's diary or journal. You can't really say that parents won't lie about it. They might say they are always worried and because of their responsibility as a parent, they should be given the right to invade their child's privacy - mainly referring to reading a diary/journal. They might be perfectly content of their child/children's behavior and attitude but may use the excuse of worry to intervene in their child's life because their child doesn't do things the way their parents want them to. There is more than one way to do something right. |
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Reminiscent Soul Dream And I think this brings up another point. Isn't it a natural thing for a parent to worry about their children? They could just use the excuse of "I was worried about her/him" to get away with reading their son/daughter's diary or journal. You can't really say that parents won't lie about it. They might say they are always worried and because of their responsibility as a parent, they should be given the right to invade their child's privacy - mainly referring to reading a diary/journal. They might be perfectly content of their child/children's behavior and attitude but may use the excuse of worry to intervene in their child's life because their child doesn't do things the way their parents want them to. There is more than one way to do something right. Why the hell would a parent lie about something like that? I think you're confusing adults for kids. 99.9% of the time, when parents invade a child's privacy, it IS because they're worried, and usually for good reason. Kids who do things they shouldn't will always try to keep them secret. You can deny this all you want, but you'll only be able to provide exceptions to the rule as examples rather than the rule itself. |
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Reminiscent Soul Dream Imaginary Marionette I once walked into the room and found my sister and my Mom reading my diary out loud. They said it was because it was they were worried about me. So yeah, I think diaries should be kept private. And I think this brings up another point. Isn't it a natural thing for a parent to worry about their children? They could just use the excuse of "I was worried about her/him" to get away with reading their son/daughter's diary or journal. You can't really say that parents won't lie about it. They might say they are always worried and because of their responsibility as a parent, they should be given the right to invade their child's privacy - mainly referring to reading a diary/journal. They might be perfectly content of their child/children's behavior and attitude but may use the excuse of worry to intervene in their child's life because their child doesn't do things the way their parents want them to. There is more than one way to do something right. My family had very good reasons for being worried about me, and found substantial evidence in the diary to support the worries. |
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Crazy Game Informer Reminiscent Soul Dream And I think this brings up another point. Isn't it a natural thing for a parent to worry about their children? They could just use the excuse of "I was worried about her/him" to get away with reading their son/daughter's diary or journal. You can't really say that parents won't lie about it. They might say they are always worried and because of their responsibility as a parent, they should be given the right to invade their child's privacy - mainly referring to reading a diary/journal. They might be perfectly content of their child/children's behavior and attitude but may use the excuse of worry to intervene in their child's life because their child doesn't do things the way their parents want them to. There is more than one way to do something right. Why the hell would a parent lie about something like that? I think you're confusing adults for kids. 99.9% of the time, when parents invade a child's privacy, it IS because they're worried, and usually for good reason. Kids who do things they shouldn't will always try to keep them secret. You can deny this all you want, but you'll only be able to provide exceptions to the rule as examples rather than the rule itself. Perhaps - that is why is said "might". I know a lot of my friends have parents who do not approve of the way they do things and because of that disapproval, their parents restrict many things. In my family, things like that happen all the time. I tend to plan out my day when I know what happens during my day. I used to have a high temper and and quick one too - so I started the habit of setting aside a time to let out my feelings in a journal. But when I do it changes everyday. If I have a lot of homework, I'd go home and finish it right away in my room. If I don't, then I write and do my homework later at night. But my parents never approved of that. They always thought that homework should be done at the same time everyday, worked on for the same amount of time and that writing in my journal should not be something much like a habit. Everyone is different. Then because I still kept writing in my journal, when I was asleep, my parents snuck in my room and dug up all my bags to find my journal. And they did. And they found out about my crush, about my friends and the things I thought about my own life. I didn't have anything bad in it. I had some arguments with my friends every once in a while - mainly about gossip and rumors from other people, but those things cleared up and the problems were solved the same day they occurred. I didn't have anything bad to hide. I just didn't want to tell my parents because I felt that I was mature and smart enough to solve them on my own. When it came to bigger things that I needed help with, I DID tell my parents. I think that goes for a lot of people more than others think. That's why I said might. I know I kind of went off track with the last part - but still. You'd be surprised about how many parents disagree and/or disapprove with their children's methods of cope. |
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I do believe children should have privacy. I don't think private blogs however are as private as we think. Any hacker can hack it. That's why I think diaries are good. One with a god lock of course. However if something is going wrong and the signals are there, warning signs I do believe a parent shas the right to invade that privacy since they're responsible for their children. However it should be the very last resort. Try to get the child to open up through talking to them first.
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Reminiscent Soul Dream Paramedico Legally, minors do not have the same rights as adults do; including the right to refuse medical treatment, the right to enter a contractual agreement, etc. They have, as far as I know, no right to privacy assured by the law. Ethically, good parenting I believe generally requires a certain extension of trust placed on the child. However, I do not agree that children are guaranteed or should be guaranteed anything as if they were adults fully protected by the law against their parents. They are still under the guardianship of their parents, and subject to their wishes so long as those do not violate any law of the established government. In short: they are not adults, and cannot be treated as such. Doing so, I believe, is foolish and harmful to all parties involved. You did say 'as far as you know'. But I think I can change that. My teacher last year told the class about this case of privacy. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002114234_webprivacy09.html Of course, even with this Privacy Act, there's another side to it, mainly from parents that I think people ought to read as well. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002118807_privacyfolo14.html Thank you for sharing that! It was an interesting read. I personally don't know of any cop who would uphold that law or prosecute a parent accused by a minor for eavesdropping in on their conversation. As the article mentioned, they've got real police work to do. As long as a child is not being abused physically or mentally, there is little the law will find wrong in a parent's actions. |
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Princess Z-M HorriblyCrazy No offense ma'm, But you sound like a b***h.... Do you have children? Have you taken any type of Child development classes? If not then kindly shut your mouth. Anyone who knows anything worth a damn about children and teenagers know for a fact MOST of them can't be trusted. Really when you young the simplest stuff seems like a big deal. You constantly changing and making wrong decisions. I salute parents that go the extra mile in parenting. You have no right to call that woman a b***h. Granted you don't know what her kids are like. You sound like a spoiled American teenager who probably could use a good kick in the pants. I understand being worried, and scared about whether your children are okay. I didn't say she was a b***h, just that she sounded like one. Imagine being a teen again and imagine that you'd poured your soul into your diary, writing about how your friends were doing drugs, you fell in love, you got trashed, and one day were mad at your parent/guardian so you wrote five pages of bad things about them. The next day maybe you felt horrible about it and were about to shred it when your parent/guardian is sitting on your bed with your open diary, so angry that it looks like they're about to puke. We need privacy. So do you. I don't go around asking about my moms sex life, i dont expect her to go around and ask people what im up to. |
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Paramedico Reminiscent Soul Dream Paramedico Legally, minors do not have the same rights as adults do; including the right to refuse medical treatment, the right to enter a contractual agreement, etc. They have, as far as I know, no right to privacy assured by the law. Ethically, good parenting I believe generally requires a certain extension of trust placed on the child. However, I do not agree that children are guaranteed or should be guaranteed anything as if they were adults fully protected by the law against their parents. They are still under the guardianship of their parents, and subject to their wishes so long as those do not violate any law of the established government. In short: they are not adults, and cannot be treated as such. Doing so, I believe, is foolish and harmful to all parties involved. You did say 'as far as you know'. But I think I can change that. My teacher last year told the class about this case of privacy. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002114234_webprivacy09.html Of course, even with this Privacy Act, there's another side to it, mainly from parents that I think people ought to read as well. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002118807_privacyfolo14.html Thank you for sharing that! It was an interesting read. I personally don't know of any cop who would uphold that law or prosecute a parent accused by a minor for eavesdropping in on their conversation. As the article mentioned, they've got real police work to do. As long as a child is not being abused physically or mentally, there is little the law will find wrong in a parent's actions. Yeah, that's true. Parents have responsibilities that require actions. And though actions may be illegal... Well, it's not worth getting law enforcement. And no problem. When my teacher told me about it, I was shocked. Really! I had no idea there was such law, I only thought that giving kids privacy was a morality slash trust thing. |
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Princess Z-M Consecrated Oblivion Princess Z-M HorriblyCrazy No offense ma'm, But you sound like a b***h.... Do you have children? Have you taken any type of Child development classes? If not then kindly shut your mouth. Anyone who knows anything worth a damn about children and teenagers know for a fact MOST of them can't be trusted. Really when you young the simplest stuff seems like a big deal. You constantly changing and making wrong decisions. I salute parents that go the extra mile in parenting. You have no right to call that woman a b***h. Granted you don't know what her kids are like. You sound like a spoiled American teenager who probably could use a good kick in the pants. Hence I said Most. Stats show teens make stupid choices. It's one of the worst periods of MOST people. Your body, mind, and morals all go through various changes. Add that to the peer pressure, social norms, media, and a host of other environmental affects yeah I don't see how that a generalization at all. More like a highly educated statement. I take the staement in bold to offense. We make mistake in order to learn. Without making mistakes the world eats us alive. Even then half of us don't do stupid stuff. Why? Because we know our parents will t=beat the s**t out of us. |
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 ℛ ϵ ɱ ɨ η ɨ s ϲ ϵ η ȶ xx Ϛ ѳ ʊ ʆ xx D ʀ ϵ ɑ ɱ ☪ ⊰[⇝ღ⇜]⊱ Princess Z-M Anyone who knows anything worth a damn about children and teenagers know for a fact MOST of them can't be trusted. I have a question. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I just have a question. Has it ever occurred to anyone that some adults don't trust their children/teenagers because their children/teenagers don't do things the same way they do? I see it a lot. Maybe it's just my household. But I've noticed some adults get more and more narrow-minded with age. Maybe it's just experience they've gained. But the point I'm trying to make is that there's always more than one way to do something correctly, but I've noticed some adults only approve of one way, even though the others are just as effective and positive. And then when their children do something else their way, their parents get angry and their trust for their children diminishes because their children won't do the things they say. Now many parents say their children won't listen. Is that really the case? Have parents ever thought that their children listen, but just don't agree? That doesn't mean they are doing anything bad or wrong. |
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Reminiscent Soul Dream ℛ ϵ ɱ ɨ η ɨ s ϲ ϵ η ȶ xx Ϛ ѳ ʊ ʆ xx D ʀ ϵ ɑ ɱ ☪ ⊰[⇝ღ⇜]⊱ Princess Z-M Anyone who knows anything worth a damn about children and teenagers know for a fact MOST of them can't be trusted. I have a question. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I just have a question. Has it ever occurred to anyone that some adults don't trust their children/teenagers because their children/teenagers don't do things the same way they do? I see it a lot. Maybe it's just my household. But I've noticed some adults get more and more narrow-minded with age. Maybe it's just experience they've gained. But the point I'm trying to make is that there's always more than one way to do something correctly, but I've noticed some adults only approve of one way, even though the others are just as effective and positive. And then when their children do something else their way, their parents get angry and their trust for their children diminishes because their children won't do the things they say. Now many parents say their children won't listen. Is that really the case? Have parents ever thought that their children listen, but just don't agree? That doesn't mean they are doing anything bad or wrong. I Agree ☪ That's sadly what happens at least half of the time |
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cheetahtmss My parents looked through my web history once... I still don't trust them, and that was 4 years ago. Kids should have privacy, absolutely. Unless you have REASON, but before you go through their crap, Talk to them. There are SO many kids that are afraid to talk to their parents, and it sucks. I can't talk to my parents, because they've already told me they don't approve of anything I do. My parents don't even let me lock my own door, not even when I'm getting dressed, so my mom constantly walks in, leaves the door wide open, when we have guests and I'm trying to get dry from the shower. It's horrible not to have privacy. If my mum did that to me I'd go into her room and toally trash it, steal her phone and then live somewhere else. |
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More commonly, I think it's not because the child doesn't do what they say that perturbs the parent, but that the child won't do the right thing when told to.
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