[ Poll ] One Gunman shouts Allah Akbar! Before shooting 43 people.

America Muslims in the military should be:

Let go. We can no longer trust them with guns and authority.		4.7%	[ 8 ]
Screened for interest in radical forms of Islam.		15.7%	[ 27 ]
Screened and profile in more than one way..		7.0%	[ 12 ]
Just ignore them.		1.2%	[ 2 ]
Muslim service men and women are just like anyone else.		59.3%	[ 102 ]
They should be singled out for further training together with psychiatric evaluations.		2.9%	[ 5 ]
More than once answer from above.		9.3%	[ 16 ]

Total Votes: 172

[pockybot]

xLady Tsukiyox

Me, my friend Lupis and my dad were talking about it last night (on separate occassions) and we all think something is up with it.

Oh....something is up alright.

The news media is plastering our screens with scenes of Nadal in traditional Muslim garb at a convenient score before the shooting...telling us he's a Palestinian Muslim, that he shouted "Allah Akbar", that he emailed with jihadists online.

And the big kicker, we was against the war in Afghanistan and Iraq...

Given the low approval for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, this couldnt have come at a more convenient time to help ratchet up support.

Now granted, this could be just a case of a guy snapping...but
what about the alleged second and third gunmen? What made him just snap, with no predmeditated thought? Did something trigger something?

So yeah....something doesn't add up. And watch as this thing will trigger a wave of these sort of shootings, which already began today with an office shooting.

[wasabichan]

Unit002

Muslim American doctrine preaches violence, Muslims Americans all over the word practice violence, and they only reason they do it is because they believe their precious Allah America told them they can. These dangerous individuals have no place in our military, or even in our society.

Would you look at that - it still works!

If what was said in that cnn clip is true - that he was going to be deployed and was concerned about potentially having to shoot at fellow muslims - it was maybe a bit short-sighted of him to ever sign up. Until I've seen more reliable information I'm going to ignore discussion about his religion having anything to do with this tragedy and assume he is just a regular crazy person.

If the US army would even think about shutting members of their muslim population out of service it would be a disaster.

[TagraNar]

pockybot

Germanic pagan and occultism as a belief system has more of a footprint in the armed services than adepts of Islam? Well, given Pagan Black Metal fan's notoriety for burning down churches and killing in Europe, one could say the same thing about them as people are stereotyping all Muslims with. The fact is, anyone can snap...the fact this happened to be a Palestinian Muslim is of course bad timing...and Im sure Fox News is just capitalizing on this one "PALESTINIAN MUSLIM TERRORIST MASSACRES US TROOPS"

o__o What the hell does that have to do with anything I said? I was commenting on the population of certain religious adherents within the military, with my understanding being there are more Asatru serving than Muslims. That had nothing to do with stereotyping or how certain news outlets will portray it.

[gahad]

Note it was in Texas"s shooting at 1>30 am start.

[pockybot]

Newsweek: Is this shooting a sign of things to come, with more and more troops at the PTSD breaking point?

TagraNar

o__o What the hell does that have to do with anything I said? I was commenting on the population of certain religious adherents within the military, with my understanding being there are more Asatru serving than Muslims. That had nothing to do with stereotyping or how certain news outlets will portray it.

Right, I was commenting on the overall stereotyping of anyone a little different in the military. For awhile the US military took issues with even wiccans. The fact that we have footage of this guy in full tradtional Muslim dress shows how tolerant the military is(except when it comes to openly gay troops though)

[TagraNar]

pockybot

Newsweek: Is this shooting a sign of things to come, with more and more troops at the PTSD breaking point?

Did we have these issues with WWII? Is it due to the nature of the enemy the army is fighting (i.e. non-uniformed guerrilla fighters) that's causing so many cases of PTSD?

[pockybot]

TagraNar

pockybot

Newsweek: Is this shooting a sign of things to come, with more and more troops at the PTSD breaking point?

Did we have these issues with WWII? Is it due to the nature of the enemy the army is fighting (i.e. non-uniformed guerrilla fighters) that's causing so many cases of PTSD?

Its the fact that unlike WW2, these are un necessary and immoral wars. I support each and every soldier and even their commanders on the field(I DO NOT support Obama, Bush, or the white house or any of those goons) and unfortunately...from what I can tell since the 9/11 event they've been manipulated and used to fight wars based on lies and hidden agendas.

Even the "right war" of Afghanistan, people are starting to question. Especially now that its been revealed that the biggest drug kingpins are CIA paid Karzai government stooges.

I fear we'll see mass shootings, domestic violence and suicides skyrocket when a lot of these guys return home.

[Vice Admiral Romeo Mike]

pockybot

TagraNar

pockybot

Newsweek: Is this shooting a sign of things to come, with more and more troops at the PTSD breaking point?

Did we have these issues with WWII? Is it due to the nature of the enemy the army is fighting (i.e. non-uniformed guerrilla fighters) that's causing so many cases of PTSD?

Its the fact that unlike WW2, these are un necessary and immoral wars. I support each and every soldier and even their commanders on the field(I DO NOT support Obama, Bush, or the white house or any of those goons) and unfortunately...from what I can tell since the 9/11 event they've been manipulated and used to fight wars based on lies and hidden agendas.

Even the "right war" of Afghanistan, people are starting to question. Especially now that its been revealed that the biggest drug kingpins are CIA paid Karzai government stooges.

I fear we'll see mass shootings, domestic violence and suicides skyrocket when a lot of these guys return home.

That... did not answer her question.

[Albany King]

That sucks for all any hajis wanting to join up, I guess. I'm sure they already get s**t as it is. Way to ruin it for everyone else, douche!

Also, Mooslim is a funny punchline for a cow/religious pun, but I can't actually think of a joke.

[tererun3]

HelloNoora

Muslim, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan shouted "God is Great" in Arabic while opening fire at Fort Hood yesterday hitting 43 persons before being shot himself. Hasan is alive and in critical condition at a nearby community hospital under guard by both local and military police.

Now I think people are missing the point here. This guy yelled some muslim phrase, opened fire, and shot 43 people on a military base? Now, sure we should be angry, but perhaps this is a sign some of our soldiers need to go through some better basic training. It isn't like this guy opened fire in some london mall where no one has guns. This is a US military base. Either this guy was the muslim rambo, or these guys sucked a**. I could be wrong, but weren't their less casualties when the two guys in LA started shooting poorly armed police and civilians?

[Albany King]

tererun3

HelloNoora

Muslim, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan shouted "God is Great" in Arabic while opening fire at Fort Hood yesterday hitting 43 persons before being shot himself. Hasan is alive and in critical condition at a nearby community hospital under guard by both local and military police.

Now I think people are missing the point here. This guy yelled some muslim phrase, opened fire, and shot 43 people on a military base? Now, sure we should be angry, but perhaps this is a sign some of our soldiers need to go through some better basic training. It isn't like this guy opened fire in some london mall where no one has guns. This is a US military base. Either this guy was the muslim rambo, or these guys sucked a**. I could be wrong, but weren't their less casualties when the two guys in LA started shooting poorly armed police and civilians?

I like the idea of a Muslim Rambo. Kind of like the Hebrew Hammer, but way less into sexy women.

[EsgarBlackpoxs]

tererun3

HelloNoora

Muslim, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan shouted "God is Great" in Arabic while opening fire at Fort Hood yesterday hitting 43 persons before being shot himself. Hasan is alive and in critical condition at a nearby community hospital under guard by both local and military police.

Now I think people are missing the point here. This guy yelled some muslim phrase, opened fire, and shot 43 people on a military base? Now, sure we should be angry, but perhaps this is a sign some of our soldiers need to go through some better basic training. It isn't like this guy opened fire in some london mall where no one has guns. This is a US military base. Either this guy was the muslim rambo, or these guys sucked a**. I could be wrong, but weren't their less casualties when the two guys in LA started shooting poorly armed police and civilians?

The difference in this case is that the soldiers he shot at were totally unarmed, and all gathered into one place, being attacked by complete surprise by someone with military training. Rather than two well-equipped but ultimately untrained criminals whose motive was escape, not murder.

Though apparently he is muslim rambo since he fought Akimbo style.

[DakiDaki]

Guys, guys. We're focusing way too much on the guy's ethnic background, and not at all at the fact that this guy was a army psychologist. Should that not be a bigger warning flag?

[Albany King]

DakiDaki

Guys, guys. We're focusing way too much on the guy's ethnic background, and not at all at the fact that this guy was a army psychologist. Should that not be a bigger warning flag?

See, when I first heard about it, I didn't even know he was Muslim. I just heard he was a psychologist who flipped s**t and shot some folks. THAT seems a little weird to me, but psychologists always have.