nakedness and children

[HelloNoora]

Kilomech

HelloNoora

Kilomech

I don't think any of those things matter with babies. If you want to walk around your house nude with your three-month old watching then so be it.

It gets weird once they get a little older though, like age 4 and up. Same with multi-sibling bathing or bathing with parents. It's okay when they're younger, but when they get older it gets a little strange.

Of course, I see no reason to let even a toddler see you pee. That would make me uncomfortable. A newborn is no big deal, but a kid who can walk, point and ask questions? Awkward.

Our entire family demo'ed "going potty" for the ones not yet potty trained. Mostly I ask that we close the door when using the toilet. However bathing or changing together is simply not a problem unless people have a screwed up idea of the human body and human sexuality.

When I was being potty trained, I don't recall ever being confused at the concept of using the toilet without being showed how first. My mom supervised me, of course and she double-checked to make sure everything went...well, but I don't remember her sitting on the toilet and saying, "This is how it's done." I mean, you just sit and pee/poop right? The hard part, I would assume based on experience, would be in the wiping (IE, front to back, make sure you get it all, etc). Not that my mom closed the bathroom door (or closes the bathroom door) when she uses the toilet, though. She has no shame.

But I figure that with adequate supervision and substantial appraisal, a child should have no problem knowing how to use a toilet. Accidents will happen, of course, but as long as they understand it, I don't think it'll be too terribly difficult. I wet my pants often when I was very little, even when I knew how to use the toilet. I just had terrible bladder control and was too shy to ask where the restroom was often.

None of my children ever had accidents after the first time they used the toilet. If you can remember your potty training, I am thinking it did not go as well as you might think it went. Perhaps I am being unfair, Kilomech. I was not there and I do not know. Your ridicule of my post has tempted me to ridicule yours. Please forgive me.

[froggymama89]

HelloNoora

Kilomech

HelloNoora

Kilomech

I don't think any of those things matter with babies. If you want to walk around your house nude with your three-month old watching then so be it.

It gets weird once they get a little older though, like age 4 and up. Same with multi-sibling bathing or bathing with parents. It's okay when they're younger, but when they get older it gets a little strange.

Of course, I see no reason to let even a toddler see you pee. That would make me uncomfortable. A newborn is no big deal, but a kid who can walk, point and ask questions? Awkward.

Our entire family demo'ed "going potty" for the ones not yet potty trained. Mostly I ask that we close the door when using the toilet. However bathing or changing together is simply not a problem unless people have a screwed up idea of the human body and human sexuality.

When I was being potty trained, I don't recall ever being confused at the concept of using the toilet without being showed how first. My mom supervised me, of course and she double-checked to make sure everything went...well, but I don't remember her sitting on the toilet and saying, "This is how it's done." I mean, you just sit and pee/poop right? The hard part, I would assume based on experience, would be in the wiping (IE, front to back, make sure you get it all, etc). Not that my mom closed the bathroom door (or closes the bathroom door) when she uses the toilet, though. She has no shame.

But I figure that with adequate supervision and substantial appraisal, a child should have no problem knowing how to use a toilet. Accidents will happen, of course, but as long as they understand it, I don't think it'll be too terribly difficult. I wet my pants often when I was very little, even when I knew how to use the toilet. I just had terrible bladder control and was too shy to ask where the restroom was often.

None of my children ever had accidents after the first time they used the toilet. If you can remember your potty training, I am thinking it did not go as well as you might think it went. Perhaps I am being unfair, Kilomech. I was not there and I do not know. Your ridicule of my post has tempted me to ridicule yours. Please forgive me.

This is what I think too. I know nothing about my potty training except I visited grandma for a week and came back trained. When I ask my grandmother she just says the same way she always does. Some children are more visual it doesn't matter how many time you explain something they won't get it till they see it. I husband is this way you can't tell him where the keys are you have to show him. Even though he's only 8 months whenever I have him in the restroom with me (usually at the store or on campus) I tell him what momies doing. I know it doesn't understand yet but I want him to see going potty as normal. I actually pray he will be one of those kids that potty trains himself at 18 or 24 months. He strikes me as that type.

[froggymama89]

HelloNoora

Kilomech

Hepzeba

froggymama89

Is it Ok to be naked around your own children even if you have no sexual intent? what about around babies? What about taking a bath together? What are your thoughts on parents who walk around th house topless, allow their kids to see them go to the restroom, or take baths with their children?

I walk around naked in front of my children, but then I also breastfed them until they were five years old. I think that one should be considerate of the feelings of others. My son told me that it bothered him, so now I cover myself with a kimono whne he is around or give a heads up that I am coming out naked to grab something so he can avert his gaze.

Am I the only parent here that thinks this is very, very weird?

It is "wierd" in a culture where babies are given bottles instead of the breast but not in cultures where nurturance comes primarily from the breast, no. The culture is all F'ed up when it thinks that breasts are dangerous for children.

I agree somewhat. To breastfeed to 5 in a culture where food is readily available is a bit odd but there is no proof it actually harming the child. I intended to breastfeed for a year but I developed fybrocystic breast desise. Which is a fancy way of saying blockages from hell that take up half your breast and come back in 6 hours and cause your cute little Cs to turn into massive angry Hs. I couldn't deal with it so I weaned. I would rather give birth to 10 pound triplets on the freeway naturally then go through another one of those.

[froggymama89]

Spiltz

There are still cultures in the world today where people wear almost if not completely nothing. And when the men speak to the women, they look them in the eye, not at their bare breasts, because that junk is old news to them. It's all cultural. Raise a kid to believe his p***s is a dirty sin and he'll believe it. Or don't. Whatever.

OMG I love you. In those societies breasts are treated merely as feeding devices. Makes me wonder if we didn't teach our kids that breasts were sex objects if they would even care.

[froggymama89]

HelloNoora

I just find it weird if not entirely disordered that we teach children to masturbate and use "protection" to have sex before they are fully mature, but we cannot be seen naked at home.

I think this is a sign that we are oversexualizing our children. A son or daughter seeing his or her opposite gendered parent naked (for heterosexuals) is not going to come to mind when dating anymore than mom's pretty face or dad's strong chin.

We teach our children to masturbate now!? I will not teach my son that. If he wants to I won't stop him. Like if he does it in the privacy of his room. I would condone porn because a lot of women are not comfortable with it and it can turn into a habit or even an addiction in some men. As far as protection goes I will start off by teaching him court rather than date. The difference is in courting your trying to impress the father and by doing so should impress the girl. In that sex before marriage would be discouraged after all its hard to impress daddy after you've deflowered her. But I would make it clear that if he wanted to I wouldn't stop him and would even buy him condoms and get him tested regularly because I know how teens work. They're gonna do what their gonna do and telling them no just means they don't tell you. I'd know he's sexually active and buy him condoms then not know and find out his 16 year old girlfriend is pregnant or he has an STD.

[Cheshire6]

Spiltz

There are still cultures in the world today where people wear almost if not completely nothing. And when the men speak to the women, they look them in the eye, not at their bare breasts, because that junk is old news to them. It's all cultural. Raise a kid to believe his p***s is a dirty sin and he'll believe it. Or don't. Whatever.

I think the question was about this culture. I mean just a guess, but saying hey look at this culture here, isn't helpful unless she is raising her child in that culture. Unless of course, this is about her and not the baby.

[froggymama89]

This is in general for you I guess. If I wanted advice on it I would post in LI.

[HelloNoora]

froggymama89

HelloNoora

Kilomech

HelloNoora

Kilomech

I don't think any of those things matter with babies. If you want to walk around your house nude with your three-month old watching then so be it.

It gets weird once they get a little older though, like age 4 and up. Same with multi-sibling bathing or bathing with parents. It's okay when they're younger, but when they get older it gets a little strange.

Of course, I see no reason to let even a toddler see you pee. That would make me uncomfortable. A newborn is no big deal, but a kid who can walk, point and ask questions? Awkward.

Our entire family demo'ed "going potty" for the ones not yet potty trained. Mostly I ask that we close the door when using the toilet. However bathing or changing together is simply not a problem unless people have a screwed up idea of the human body and human sexuality.

When I was being potty trained, I don't recall ever being confused at the concept of using the toilet without being showed how first. My mom supervised me, of course and she double-checked to make sure everything went...well, but I don't remember her sitting on the toilet and saying, "This is how it's done." I mean, you just sit and pee/poop right? The hard part, I would assume based on experience, would be in the wiping (IE, front to back, make sure you get it all, etc). Not that my mom closed the bathroom door (or closes the bathroom door) when she uses the toilet, though. She has no shame.

But I figure that with adequate supervision and substantial appraisal, a child should have no problem knowing how to use a toilet. Accidents will happen, of course, but as long as they understand it, I don't think it'll be too terribly difficult. I wet my pants often when I was very little, even when I knew how to use the toilet. I just had terrible bladder control and was too shy to ask where the restroom was often.

None of my children ever had accidents after the first time they used the toilet. If you can remember your potty training, I am thinking it did not go as well as you might think it went. Perhaps I am being unfair, Kilomech. I was not there and I do not know. Your ridicule of my post has tempted me to ridicule yours. Please forgive me.

This is what I think too. I know nothing about my potty training except I visited grandma for a week and came back trained. When I ask my grandmother she just says the same way she always does. Some children are more visual it doesn't matter how many time you explain something they won't get it till they see it. I husband is this way you can't tell him where the keys are you have to show him. Even though he's only 8 months whenever I have him in the restroom with me (usually at the store or on campus) I tell him what momies doing. I know it doesn't understand yet but I want him to see going potty as normal. I actually pray he will be one of those kids that potty trains himself at 18 or 24 months. He strikes me as that type.

I can tell you are an outstanding mother. biggrin Love this story!!!

[froggymama89]

HelloNoora

froggymama89

HelloNoora

Kilomech

HelloNoora

Kilomech

I don't think any of those things matter with babies. If you want to walk around your house nude with your three-month old watching then so be it.

It gets weird once they get a little older though, like age 4 and up. Same with multi-sibling bathing or bathing with parents. It's okay when they're younger, but when they get older it gets a little strange.

Of course, I see no reason to let even a toddler see you pee. That would make me uncomfortable. A newborn is no big deal, but a kid who can walk, point and ask questions? Awkward.

Our entire family demo'ed "going potty" for the ones not yet potty trained. Mostly I ask that we close the door when using the toilet. However bathing or changing together is simply not a problem unless people have a screwed up idea of the human body and human sexuality.

When I was being potty trained, I don't recall ever being confused at the concept of using the toilet without being showed how first. My mom supervised me, of course and she double-checked to make sure everything went...well, but I don't remember her sitting on the toilet and saying, "This is how it's done." I mean, you just sit and pee/poop right? The hard part, I would assume based on experience, would be in the wiping (IE, front to back, make sure you get it all, etc). Not that my mom closed the bathroom door (or closes the bathroom door) when she uses the toilet, though. She has no shame.

But I figure that with adequate supervision and substantial appraisal, a child should have no problem knowing how to use a toilet. Accidents will happen, of course, but as long as they understand it, I don't think it'll be too terribly difficult. I wet my pants often when I was very little, even when I knew how to use the toilet. I just had terrible bladder control and was too shy to ask where the restroom was often.

None of my children ever had accidents after the first time they used the toilet. If you can remember your potty training, I am thinking it did not go as well as you might think it went. Perhaps I am being unfair, Kilomech. I was not there and I do not know. Your ridicule of my post has tempted me to ridicule yours. Please forgive me.

This is what I think too. I know nothing about my potty training except I visited grandma for a week and came back trained. When I ask my grandmother she just says the same way she always does. Some children are more visual it doesn't matter how many time you explain something they won't get it till they see it. I husband is this way you can't tell him where the keys are you have to show him. Even though he's only 8 months whenever I have him in the restroom with me (usually at the store or on campus) I tell him what momies doing. I know it doesn't understand yet but I want him to see going potty as normal. I actually pray he will be one of those kids that potty trains himself at 18 or 24 months. He strikes me as that type.

I can tell you are an outstanding mother. biggrin Love this story!!!

Thnx us moms don't hear it enough and I've discovered that most of us and not just me feel like we're flying by the seat of our pants.

[HelloNoora]

Cheshire6

Spiltz

There are still cultures in the world today where people wear almost if not completely nothing. And when the men speak to the women, they look them in the eye, not at their bare breasts, because that junk is old news to them. It's all cultural. Raise a kid to believe his p***s is a dirty sin and he'll believe it. Or don't. Whatever.

I think the question was about this culture. I mean just a guess, but saying hey look at this culture here, isn't helpful unless she is raising her child in that culture. Unless of course, this is about her and not the baby.

My children must be some of the most conservative children in the world of Gaia and yet I raised them with nudity as being normal. I respect my one son, now that he is a teenager and I do give him all the privacy he desires and I also I so slip on a kimono or give a heads up that I am not dressed.

[HelloNoora]

froggymama89

HelloNoora

froggymama89

HelloNoora

Kilomech

When I was being potty trained, I don't recall ever being confused at the concept of using the toilet without being showed how first. My mom supervised me, of course and she double-checked to make sure everything went...well, but I don't remember her sitting on the toilet and saying, "This is how it's done." I mean, you just sit and pee/poop right? The hard part, I would assume based on experience, would be in the wiping (IE, front to back, make sure you get it all, etc). Not that my mom closed the bathroom door (or closes the bathroom door) when she uses the toilet, though. She has no shame.

But I figure that with adequate supervision and substantial appraisal, a child should have no problem knowing how to use a toilet. Accidents will happen, of course, but as long as they understand it, I don't think it'll be too terribly difficult. I wet my pants often when I was very little, even when I knew how to use the toilet. I just had terrible bladder control and was too shy to ask where the restroom was often.

None of my children ever had accidents after the first time they used the toilet. If you can remember your potty training, I am thinking it did not go as well as you might think it went. Perhaps I am being unfair, Kilomech. I was not there and I do not know. Your ridicule of my post has tempted me to ridicule yours. Please forgive me.

This is what I think too. I know nothing about my potty training except I visited grandma for a week and came back trained. When I ask my grandmother she just says the same way she always does. Some children are more visual it doesn't matter how many time you explain something they won't get it till they see it. I husband is this way you can't tell him where the keys are you have to show him. Even though he's only 8 months whenever I have him in the restroom with me (usually at the store or on campus) I tell him what momies doing. I know it doesn't understand yet but I want him to see going potty as normal. I actually pray he will be one of those kids that potty trains himself at 18 or 24 months. He strikes me as that type.

I can tell you are an outstanding mother. biggrin Love this story!!!

Thnx us moms don't hear it enough and I've discovered that most of us and not just me feel like we're flying by the seat of our pants.

I got ideas from watching Jane Goodall films about apes and their babies. Then I met a French Canadian woman whom I greatly admired who had breastfed her children for five years each. (She had two) So I decided that when I had children I would raise them close to my body.

All but one of my children is highly visual. Role modeling behavior is about the fastest ways most children catch on. They do what we do and often repeat what we say. But they definitely monkey our behaviors even if they don't fully understand what we are doing.

Where did you get your inspirations?

[HelloNoora]

froggymama89

HelloNoora

I just find it weird if not entirely disordered that we teach children to masturbate and use "protection" to have sex before they are fully mature, but we cannot be seen naked at home.

I think this is a sign that we are oversexualizing our children. A son or daughter seeing his or her opposite gendered parent naked (for heterosexuals) is not going to come to mind when dating anymore than mom's pretty face or dad's strong chin.

We teach our children to masturbate now!? I will not teach my son that. If he wants to I won't stop him. Like if he does it in the privacy of his room. I would condone porn because a lot of women are not comfortable with it and it can turn into a habit or even an addiction in some men. As far as protection goes I will start off by teaching him court rather than date. The difference is in courting your trying to impress the father and by doing so should impress the girl. In that sex before marriage would be discouraged after all its hard to impress daddy after you've deflowered her. But I would make it clear that if he wanted to I wouldn't stop him and would even buy him condoms and get him tested regularly because I know how teens work. They're gonna do what their gonna do and telling them no just means they don't tell you. I'd know he's sexually active and buy him condoms then not know and find out his 16 year old girlfriend is pregnant or he has an STD.

Well I don't. I am a Catholic Mother and my family follows church teaching. My home is covered in icons and Catholic art. I think I was motivated to write this post because of the thread topics and the apparent advocacy for this.

We believe that sex is a sacramental within the state of Holy Matrimony. I am neither going to bug my children about it (I know that some of them do masturbate because I have accidentally overheard one of my daughters) but I am also not going to tell them that it is a great idea.

[Cheshire6]

HelloNoora

Cheshire6

Spiltz

There are still cultures in the world today where people wear almost if not completely nothing. And when the men speak to the women, they look them in the eye, not at their bare breasts, because that junk is old news to them. It's all cultural. Raise a kid to believe his p***s is a dirty sin and he'll believe it. Or don't. Whatever.

I think the question was about this culture. I mean just a guess, but saying hey look at this culture here, isn't helpful unless she is raising her child in that culture. Unless of course, this is about her and not the baby.

My children must be some of the most conservative children in the world of Gaia and yet I raised them with nudity as being normal. I respect my one son, now that he is a teenager and I do give him all the privacy he desires and I also I so slip on a kimono or give a heads up that I am not dressed.

Noora, you are one of the most conservative people I know. On top of that you frequent conservative establishments, now don't try and tell me that didn't effect your kids.

[Chitsa Black]

Hepzeba

froggymama89

Is it Ok to be naked around your own children even if you have no sexual intent? what about around babies? What about taking a bath together? What are your thoughts on parents who walk around th house topless, allow their kids to see them go to the restroom, or take baths with their children?

I walk around naked in front of my children, but then I also breastfed them until they were five years old. I think that one should be considerate of the feelings of others. My son told me that it bothered him, so now I cover myself with a kimono whne he is around or give a heads up that I am coming out naked to grab something so he can avert his gaze.

... I'm sorry but that's just... *shudders* yuck, the idea that you were having your five year old kid suck on your breasts is just... yuck. There comes a time when it goes from being a good parent to bordering on abuse and that comes REALLY close to pushing that limit, if not beyond it. The fact that you still walk around naked despite having your child tell you it makes him uncomfortable shows that you care little about his feelings and only of your own.

[HelloNoora]

Cheshire6

HelloNoora

Cheshire6

Spiltz

There are still cultures in the world today where people wear almost if not completely nothing. And when the men speak to the women, they look them in the eye, not at their bare breasts, because that junk is old news to them. It's all cultural. Raise a kid to believe his p***s is a dirty sin and he'll believe it. Or don't. Whatever.

I think the question was about this culture. I mean just a guess, but saying hey look at this culture here, isn't helpful unless she is raising her child in that culture. Unless of course, this is about her and not the baby.

My children must be some of the most conservative children in the world of Gaia and yet I raised them with nudity as being normal. I respect my one son, now that he is a teenager and I do give him all the privacy he desires and I also I so slip on a kimono or give a heads up that I am not dressed.

Noora, you are one of the most conservative people I know. On top of that you frequent conservative establishments, now don't try and tell me that didn't effect your kids.

Yes, that is my point. I am traditionalist, a church goer and comparatively speaking conservative by Gaian standards. Yet I have raised my children close to my body and have not found family nudity to be wrong.