nakedness and children

[Olya]

Death and Misery

Understanding what an "A" means on a paper or assignment is not meant to motivate, it's meant to inform.

And a response is the point of conditioning. You don't associate every A you see with a reward, now do you?

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Understanding that "A's" on papers gives rewards is meant to motivate.

Then why doesn't it do that consistently?

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So, in turn, you strive to do well because of the reward, and because of prior CC you strive to an A, which is the symbol for doing well and thus proof for you to turn in and get your reward.

Dude, you just proved it's not classical conditioning =.=;

[Mokzii]

Perfectly innocent. Especially if it's a baby.

You know when your intentions aren't innocent, if they aren't - that obviously is not okay.
Now if you're still doing it by the time the child hits puberty - you're definitely skirting the line of acceptable.

[I got bored one day]

Cheshire6

Don't be a pompous a**.

Bitterness never tasted so sweet.

[I got bored one day]

Olya

Death and Misery

Understanding what an "A" means on a paper or assignment is not meant to motivate, it's meant to inform.

And a response is the point of conditioning. You don't associate every A you see with a reward, now do you?

Good job dipshit. You got it on the fifth try!

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Understanding that "A's" on papers gives rewards is meant to motivate.

Then why doesn't it do that consistently?

Operant conditioning only works if the reward is valuable to the recipient.

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So, in turn, you strive to do well because of the reward, and because of prior CC you strive to an A, which is the symbol for doing well and thus proof for you to turn in and get your reward.

Dude, you just proved it's not classical conditioning =.=;

Actually it's both together.

[Vixianna]

I'm not sure what everyone's problem is. I've seen my mom and sister naked since like forever. I'm female btw. There's nothing wrong with it, nor taking a bath with your children(under 5 of either gender) as long as you use products that won't irritant the baby's skin. Seriously though, being naked isn't all that bad, and if my dad isn't home all three of us just barely manage underwear. We don't like clothes. My dad doesn't even wear pants all the time, but he wears boxers so it's cool.

[I got bored one day]

Vixianna

I'm not sure what everyone's problem is. I've seen my mom and sister naked since like forever. I'm female btw. There's nothing wrong with it, nor taking a bath with your children(under 5) as long as you use products that won't irritant the babies skin. Seriously though, being naked isn't all that bad, and if my dad isn't home all three of us just barely manage underwear. We don't like clothes. My dad doesn't even wear pants all the time, but he wears boxers so it's cool.

Do you hang out naked with your dad?

[This isnt Sparta]

Westerners are always uptight about human nudity and sexuality. In other parts of the world, nudity could be seen as no big deal. I dont think that bathing with your young child is a bad thing. Building trust bonds is an important element in a child's development and just bathing in the tub with your baby/ toddler helps build the bond between parent and child. And really? Are you going to make your 2 year old child bathe alone because you dont want western society to view you as some sort of *****? I do think that bathing with your child should stop at a certain age. I say maybe around 5 to 7, they should be starting to bathe alone. Maybe popping in the bathroom every so often to make sure they are taking their bath, or helping them wash themselves, but not getting in the tub with them.

[Vixianna]

Cutie-pie Sleepyhead

Vixianna

I'm not sure what everyone's problem is. I've seen my mom and sister naked since like forever. I'm female btw. There's nothing wrong with it, nor taking a bath with your children(under 5) as long as you use products that won't irritant the babies skin. Seriously though, being naked isn't all that bad, and if my dad isn't home all three of us just barely manage underwear. We don't like clothes. My dad doesn't even wear pants all the time, but he wears boxers so it's cool.

Do you hang out naked with your dad?

I won't wear pants if the night gown is long enough, but I haven't been nude since I was small maybe 6-7 and below. So no he doesn't see me naked, and I don't see him naked, but I sure see my mom and sister naked.

[I got bored one day]

Vixianna

Cutie-pie Sleepyhead

Vixianna

I'm not sure what everyone's problem is. I've seen my mom and sister naked since like forever. I'm female btw. There's nothing wrong with it, nor taking a bath with your children(under 5) as long as you use products that won't irritant the babies skin. Seriously though, being naked isn't all that bad, and if my dad isn't home all three of us just barely manage underwear. We don't like clothes. My dad doesn't even wear pants all the time, but he wears boxers so it's cool.

Do you hang out naked with your dad?

I won't wear pants if the night gown is long enough, but I haven't been nude since I was small maybe 6-7 and below. So no he doesn't see me naked, and I don't see him naked, but I sure see my mom and sister naked.

So, same parts is safe, which is interesting because it's true in even most public bath houses and the like. What do you think establishes the standard that males and females should be separate in nudity, regardless of relation?

[Vixianna]

Cutie-pie Sleepyhead

Vixianna

Cutie-pie Sleepyhead

Vixianna

I'm not sure what everyone's problem is. I've seen my mom and sister naked since like forever. I'm female btw. There's nothing wrong with it, nor taking a bath with your children(under 5) as long as you use products that won't irritant the babies skin. Seriously though, being naked isn't all that bad, and if my dad isn't home all three of us just barely manage underwear. We don't like clothes. My dad doesn't even wear pants all the time, but he wears boxers so it's cool.

Do you hang out naked with your dad?

I won't wear pants if the night gown is long enough, but I haven't been nude since I was small maybe 6-7 and below. So no he doesn't see me naked, and I don't see him naked, but I sure see my mom and sister naked.

So, same parts is safe, which is interesting because it's true in even most public bath houses and the like. What do you think establishes the standard that males and females should be separate in nudity, regardless of relation?

I'm not really sure, I hung around my opposite sexed family nearly nude/nude until puberty. Up until then it's cool in my family. Afterwards, my mother asked we wear pants and shirts to cover up, so as to "not tempt them" or something. Honestly, my dad just didn't want reminders that his kids aren't 5 anymore, but he's accidentally opened the door when we were changing our tops.(happened to both me and my sister) didn't bother me, but my poor dad almost had a heart attack, and we don't even change faced towards the door. razz It's most likely him being uncomfortable than anything else.

As for society, I suppose because the majority of the world is heterosexual, the chances of children being aroused by the same sex parent is even smaller than opposite sexed, and of course they also assume sexual abuse would be lower with same verse opposite, even though it really doesn't have any effect.

[Bananas Are Grapes]

Well, I was in my earlier teens when my dad stopped walking around the house naked and my mother still continues. No biggy. The only thing one may find debatable is that it widened my curiosity.

[Captain Verd]

Cutie-pie Sleepyhead

Cheshire6

Don't be a pompous a**.

Bitterness never tasted so sweet.

I guess it wouldn't really be bitter at that point.

[froggymama89]

Cutie-pie Sleepyhead

Vixianna

Cutie-pie Sleepyhead

Vixianna

I'm not sure what everyone's problem is. I've seen my mom and sister naked since like forever. I'm female btw. There's nothing wrong with it, nor taking a bath with your children(under 5) as long as you use products that won't irritant the babies skin. Seriously though, being naked isn't all that bad, and if my dad isn't home all three of us just barely manage underwear. We don't like clothes. My dad doesn't even wear pants all the time, but he wears boxers so it's cool.

Do you hang out naked with your dad?

I won't wear pants if the night gown is long enough, but I haven't been nude since I was small maybe 6-7 and below. So no he doesn't see me naked, and I don't see him naked, but I sure see my mom and sister naked.

So, same parts is safe, which is interesting because it's true in even most public bath houses and the like. What do you think establishes the standard that males and females should be separate in nudity, regardless of relation?

I for one have no problem with either myself or my husband being nude around our son or any future daughters. We usually have have underwear on. I am most often in a cami and boyshort undies. I believe the stigma is more about the man that same or opposite sex. I have seen that is is more acceptable for a mother to be nude around her son than for a father to be nude around his daughter. It is the old idea that it is the men that are the sex offenders. Even though women are just as capable. If someone heard about a mother bathing with her 4 year old son there would be little if any suspicion of if a father was heard of bathing with his 4 year old daughter CPS would be called in a heartbeat.

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HelloNoora

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Hepzeba

Death and Misery

Cheshire6

rofl Question, do you think the children did this because they were conditioned to, or because they were expected too?

Actually classical conditioning is the first form of learning you can attain. For a while it's the only form. Operant Conditioning ( and then higher level learning techniques ) come secondary. So, no.

I cannot advise operant condition to teach toileting. When the child is ready and the conditions are favorable, the child will immediately shift his behavior to using the toilet.

yeah, i don't get why they're arguing. i heard it's really tough to teach and different from kid to kid.

i don't think simply showing them will do the trick. you can't show them how to feel when their bladder is full. which is the hard part.

sometimes parents give their kids gummy bears for using the toilet, which would be classical conditioning.

It is not hard at all if you use Mother Noora's method. It is just a little tricky because parents need to learn patience and timing together with being able to read your child's body language. But all those are important skills to have throughout their lifetimes so parents might as well get busy.

Don't bribe kids to potty.

what is your method?

[Omorose Panya]

I'm sure clothes didn't always exist, so I'm guessing that it is possible.