nakedness and children

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Hepzeba

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Albany King

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Albany King

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Shame! A Pox Upon Thee for Even Suggesting In Divulging In Such Lewd Conduct. The Lord Hath Provided Us With Such Bodies as a Test. They Are a Testament To Our Weakness and Our Sins And Doth Deserve to BE Hidden And Not Flaunted. The Youth Should Be Spared From Such Scarring And Damning Experiences. A Pox Upon Thee!

A man with such sweet kittens in his signature should be all sugar and no sour, don't you think?

I Walk the Path of Our Lord and Follow His Will. I Will Rejoice in What He Rejoices In and Reject What He Rejects In The Hopes of Reaching His Kingdom.

I think the Lord made our bodies with great fondness. I think to share such a divine creation with someone is to share God with that person.

Back Ye Pox Weeviled Pugnet! Back I Say! Thou Shall Not Corrupt Me! I Will Remain Strong For My Lord Thou Foul Blasphemer.

You tell 'em, Angel Troll. Does this incarnaton mean that you have passed on? No puns intended.

I Hath Had a Close Encounter With a Bath of Holy Water and Now I Feel Our Lord Near Mine Heart, Thou I Still Wander the Realm of The Living I Do So With renewed Purpose.

[Kilomech]

Hepzeba

Kilomech, have you ever stopped to think why you cannot have a bowel movement with someone present? or why it is you use infantile expressions about this natural function?

Shoot, I have trouble using a public restroom just to pee. Water has to be running or a toilet has to be flushing in order for me to do it. I have shy bladder. It's a terrible affliction.

And what's wrong with the word "poop"?

[Hepzeba]

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Hepzeba

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Shame! A Pox Upon Thee for Even Suggesting In Divulging In Such Lewd Conduct. The Lord Hath Provided Us With Such Bodies as a Test. They Are a Testament To Our Weakness and Our Sins And Doth Deserve to BE Hidden And Not Flaunted. The Youth Should Be Spared From Such Scarring And Damning Experiences. A Pox Upon Thee!

Apparently puritanism still runs rampant in the old ED where otherwise they decry religion. confused Some of these Gaians are psychologically affected in such perilous ways that I don't even know where to begin to sort out such disorder.

IMO bad potty training is the beginning of a unhappy relationship with your child and the cause of more aggressive resistance to any other kind of conformity than I could even begin to explain on a thread in GAIA.

Thou Shall Train Thy Child To Excrete Without The Removal Of Dignity. Thy Is Child Is That of God and SHould Not Wander the Land Nude Like a Heathen.

Thank you for your goodly advise, Reverend Angel Troll, however wandering hither and thither nude was never really one of our options.

[Hepzeba]

Kilomech

Hepzeba

Kilomech, have you ever stopped to think why you cannot have a bowel movement with someone present? or why it is you use infantile expressions about this natural function?

Shoot, I have trouble using a public restroom just to pee. Water has to be running or a toilet has to be flushing in order for me to do it. I have shy bladder. It's a terrible affliction.

And what's wrong with the word "poop"?

I assure you your mother ran water to "help" you pee while she had you positioned on the potty. Bladders are not shy, my dear. It is something in the mind that won't allow you to release your water.

[Albany King]

Hepzeba

Your child will be an entirely different and unique person than are you and this will require that you adapt to who this person is and relate to his or her learning style and needs. If you do not respond to his/her needs and put your sex life ahead of your child's development you will have unexpected headaches and behavior problems all down the line.

Please consider this deeply before you have a family. If possible secure a single mate to parent your children with you through life.

http://www.cs.ucsb.edu/~nurmi/cs60/hw8/wut.bmp

[Hepzeba]

PC Angel Troll

Hepzeba

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Albany King

PC Angel Troll

I Walk the Path of Our Lord and Follow His Will. I Will Rejoice in What He Rejoices In and Reject What He Rejects In The Hopes of Reaching His Kingdom.

I think the Lord made our bodies with great fondness. I think to share such a divine creation with someone is to share God with that person.

Back Ye Pox Weeviled Pugnet! Back I Say! Thou Shall Not Corrupt Me! I Will Remain Strong For My Lord Thou Foul Blasphemer.

You tell 'em, Angel Troll. Does this incarnaton mean that you have passed on? No puns intended.

I Hath Had a Close Encounter With a Bath of Holy Water and Now I Feel Our Lord Near Mine Heart, Thou I Still Wander the Realm of The Living I Do So With renewed Purpose.

Saints be Praised! gonk

[PC Angel Troll]

Hepzeba

PC Angel Troll

Hepzeba

PC Angel Troll

Shame! A Pox Upon Thee for Even Suggesting In Divulging In Such Lewd Conduct. The Lord Hath Provided Us With Such Bodies as a Test. They Are a Testament To Our Weakness and Our Sins And Doth Deserve to BE Hidden And Not Flaunted. The Youth Should Be Spared From Such Scarring And Damning Experiences. A Pox Upon Thee!

Apparently puritanism still runs rampant in the old ED where otherwise they decry religion. confused Some of these Gaians are psychologically affected in such perilous ways that I don't even know where to begin to sort out such disorder.

IMO bad potty training is the beginning of a unhappy relationship with your child and the cause of more aggressive resistance to any other kind of conformity than I could even begin to explain on a thread in GAIA.

Thou Shall Train Thy Child To Excrete Without The Removal Of Dignity. Thy Is Child Is That of God and SHould Not Wander the Land Nude Like a Heathen.

Thank you for your goodly advise, Reverend Angel Troll, however wandering hither and thither nude was never really one of our options.

Tell That to The Heathens!

[Kilomech]

Hepzeba

Kilomech

Hepzeba

Kilomech, have you ever stopped to think why you cannot have a bowel movement with someone present? or why it is you use infantile expressions about this natural function?

Shoot, I have trouble using a public restroom just to pee. Water has to be running or a toilet has to be flushing in order for me to do it. I have shy bladder. It's a terrible affliction.

And what's wrong with the word "poop"?

I assure you your mother ran water to "help" you pee while she had you positioned on the potty. Bladders are not shy, my dear. It is something in the mind that won't allow you to release your water.

Oh, I had no problem using the restroom in front of my mother until I was about five years old. I even asked her to come in and watch sometimes.

[Albany King]

Kilomech

Hepzeba

Kilomech, have you ever stopped to think why you cannot have a bowel movement with someone present? or why it is you use infantile expressions about this natural function?

Shoot, I have trouble using a public restroom just to pee. Water has to be running or a toilet has to be flushing in order for me to do it. I have shy bladder. It's a terrible affliction.

And what's wrong with the word "poop"?

It's horrible when you have to get drug tested for a job sad

[Cheshire6]

Death and Misery

Cheshire6

That's just it, it doesn't. On average your ability to regenerate facts does not determine anything about how much you have learned, Intro to Teaching 101. Either way, that's still not a conditioned response since it has to be learned =P

... Conditioning is a method of learning. Of course it has to be learned. It becomes automatic. If your teacher suddenly told you that they will write "R" for passing and "Y" for failing on your papers you'd assimilate rapidly that R = Good and B = Bad. You're either being a troll, or you're making it more complex than it actually is. I'm actually hoping it's the first, because redirecting overcomplications is hard.

If it has to be learned then how can we have natural CC? I'm actually not doing either, I just happen to know that we stopped using these concepts awhile ago because they were iron clad statements, and started biting us in the a**. You are fun to mess with though, I mean how often do you get the chance to poke at an apparent purist?

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Actually it's the happiness or sadness that's the steady device. You are generally happy, with or without external praise, when you do well at something. Crazy, huh?

Now we're in the existential self debate. Tell me are you truly happy with spouting hypothetical at each other?

[Kilomech]

Albany King

Kilomech

Hepzeba

Kilomech, have you ever stopped to think why you cannot have a bowel movement with someone present? or why it is you use infantile expressions about this natural function?

Shoot, I have trouble using a public restroom just to pee. Water has to be running or a toilet has to be flushing in order for me to do it. I have shy bladder. It's a terrible affliction.

And what's wrong with the word "poop"?

It's horrible when you have to get drug tested for a job sad

Well, it's not too terribly difficult if no one is standing just outside the stall waiting for you.

[Albany King]

Cheshire6

Tell me are you truly happy with spouting hypothetical at each other?

By golly I am.

[I got bored one day]

Olya

"If I do this, I will get A"
"I know that A is a good grade because I get reward after I get A"
You can skip A completely and nothing will change with respect to motivation.
"If I do this assignment well, I get a chocolate bar"

... Are you proving yourself wrong on purpose?

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Also, aversion therapy is a form of classical conditioning:
"Aversion therapy is a form of psychiatric, mental health or psychological treatment in which the patient is exposed to a stimulus while simultaneously being subjected to some form of discomfort. This conditioning is intended to cause the patient to associate the stimulus with unpleasant sensations in order to stop the specific behavior."

I'm failing to see how you're connecting anything.

Understanding what an "A" means on a paper or assignment is not meant to motivate, it's meant to inform.

Understanding that "A's" on papers gives rewards is meant to motivate.

So, in turn, you strive to do well because of the reward, and because of prior CC you strive to an A, which is the symbol for doing well and thus proof for you to turn in and get your reward.

I think you're confusing yourself by overcomplicating and combining.

[Hepzeba]

Kilomech

Hepzeba

Kilomech

Hepzeba

Kilomech

Why would I shame my child into feeling bad about pooping in the toilet?

And I appreciate the human body. I just believe there is a limit to how late in one's life one should be breastfed and I believe that a child can learn to use the toilet without first seeing mommy or daddy do it.

Nor did I say you would shame him for releasing his bowels into the toilet. What I am saying is that your general inability to release your bowels in the presence of your own child is a very bad sign to me that you have negative feelings about this. It is not impossible to toilet train children even in the most horrendous ways because eventually children will use the toilet, as I have stated earlier. What is at risk here is your core foundational relationship with your child.

Breastfeeding for as long as I did it not necessary. I concede that it isn't.

There is nothing abnormal about pooping. Everybody does it. I just can't do it if someone is watching or listening.

It was how I was potty trained and I got it down before I hit preschool at age three. I'm guessing around age two, if my memory serves me correctly. The fact that I had accidents (wet the bed or my pants) was not a result of me not understanding how a toilet worked, it was a result of me being way too shy to tell anyone I had to use the bathroom or holding it in until I couldn't stand up. I have a very weak bladder as a result of this and to this day, when I gotta go I GOTTA GO. If a child refuses to use the toilet by age three, it's likely not because they don't know how, it's likely because, for some reason, they just don't want to.

My children never had accidents because their culture shift to toileting was their own decision and not bribed, manipulated or coerced even gently.

All right, I get it, I'm weird cause I wet my pants. It's not like I did it on purpose, I just have very poor bladder control. sweatdrop

But I assure you, I did not have them because I was unaware of as to how to use the bathroom or because I refused to do so. Plus it's not my fault that my dad didn't have heating in my room until I was older and I was a very heavy sleeper. sweatdrop

Is your bladder "shy" or "poorly controlled?" These are all signs of bad experiences iwith early toileting. We don't heat our home at night either. I keep the windows open even in winter. Still no accidents. If you were my little girl and you were having problems wetting I would have slept with you.

Actually, this does bring up another subject because I also slept with each child until the eve of their Sixth birthday. When they wanted to get up to toilet I went with them.