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[Prince Velvetear]

The Great Heat Miser

Oh, fine. Hold my hand, and I'll take you there.

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Genetic superiority has nothing to do with being better.

This makes no sense. If your genetics are superior, then it is, by definition, better in comparison to another person's genetics. If it's better by definition, then it, by definition, has something to do with being better. A dur.

As for the chromosome crap, how the hell did you even come to that conclusion? I can't even fathom it. First of all, you're either suggesting that men have twenty-four pairs of chromosomes, or that they have twenty-four total, and either way, that's ******** horse s**t. If they did, they wouldn't even be human. Humans have twenty-three pairs of chromosomes, a total of forty-six.
And what's worse, considering that no one chromosome is like another, or even identical to whichever chromosome it ends up being paired with, all of the chromosomes involved are unique.

You're full of s**t. Everyone knows it but you. Go away now.

Thank you for taking the time to write this. Superior has more than one definition. Superior can mean better. Superior can also mean higher or above, for example your head is superior to your thorax. Superior also means having a larger quantity. I am just stating that men have a larger quantity of genes, in genetics this is called genetic superiority.

Now I can see that you know a little about genetics which will make this easier to explain. You are correct that there are are a total of 46 chromosomes in most human cells ( some cells with less than 46 are gametic cells with 23 and Erythrocytes which on maturity have zero chromosomes) There are a total of 22 unique autosome chromosomes. And there are two sex cells, a y and a x. Women have two X chromosomes and there for 23 unique chromosomes. Men on the other hand have both an x and a y making that a total of 24 unique chromosomes.

I am not saying that men have a haploid number of 23 I am saying that they have 24 unique chromosomes.

As for the term unique again that is all definition, we say that the 22 autosomes are unique because they have different set of alleles on them. They are homologous the other chromosomes that share the same set of the alleles. For example we have two chromosome #3s and two chromosome #4s. The #3 and #4 are unique from each other because they do not have the same alleles. But #3 is homologous to #3 and #4 is homologous to #4. All 22 autosomes have a homologous pair.

I hope this helps you understand.

[The Great Heat Miser]

Lambs and Lions

Thank you for taking the time to write this. Superior has more than one definition. Superior can mean better. Superior can also mean higher or above, for example your head is superior to your thorax. Superior also means having a larger quantity. I am just stating that men have a larger quantity of genes, in genetics this is called genetic superiority.

Even then, you used it to argue that men were better than women.
So even then, it would still have something to do with being better than women.

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Now I can see that you know a little about genetics which will make this easier to explain. You are correct that there are are a total of 46 chromosomes in most human cells ( some cells with less than 46 are gametic cells with 23 and Erythrocytes which on maturity have zero chromosomes) There are a total of unique 22 autosome chromosomes. And there are two sex cells, a y and a x. Women have two X chromosomes and there for 23 unique chromosomes. Men on the other hand have both an x and a y making that a total of 24 unique chromosomes.

That's only one way of being unique. Just because a woman has two x chromosomes doesn't mean that those two x chromosomes are completely identical.
They're still unique.
So, yeah. I'm not buying this either.

[Prince Velvetear]

The Great Heat Miser

Lambs and Lions

Thank you for taking the time to write this. Superior has more than one definition. Superior can mean better. Superior can also mean higher or above, for example your head is superior to your thorax. Superior also means having a larger quantity. I am just stating that men have a larger quantity of genes, in genetics this is called genetic superiority.

Even then, you used it to argue that men were better than women.
So even then, it would still have something to do with being better than women.

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Now I can see that you know a little about genetics which will make this easier to explain. You are correct that there are are a total of 46 chromosomes in most human cells ( some cells with less than 46 are gametic cells with 23 and Erythrocytes which on maturity have zero chromosomes) There are a total of unique 22 autosome chromosomes. And there are two sex cells, a y and a x. Women have two X chromosomes and there for 23 unique chromosomes. Men on the other hand have both an x and a y making that a total of 24 unique chromosomes.

That's only one way of being unique. Just because a woman has two x chromosomes doesn't mean that those two x chromosomes are completely identical.
They're still unique.
So, yeah. I'm not buying this either.

The two X's are homologous chromosomes, they have the same alleles. If you are going to say that the two X's are unique then all the chromosomes are unique and we would have 46 sets of unique chromosomes.

I am okay with you saying that but if you want to argue that way I will have to point out that one of the X chromosomes in every mature diploid female cell goes through a process of lyonization. Basically what this means is that it curls up and become inactive throughout all g0 phase of its life. So men have 46 active chromosomes in their cell at a time while women have 45.

[The Great Heat Miser]

Lambs and Lions

The two X's are homologous chromosomes, they have the same alleles. If you are going to say that the two X's are unique then all the chromosomes are unique and we would have 46 sets of unique chromosomes.

Yes. Forty-six unique chromosomes. I already said that.

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I am okay with you saying that but if you want to argue that way I will have to point out that one of the X chromosomes in every mature diploid female cell goes through a process of lyonization. Basically what this means is that it curls up and become inactive throughout all g0 phase of its life. So men have 46 active chromosomes in their cell at a time while women have 45.

Okay. So far, you've pointed out that women have twenty-three homologous chromosomes, while men have only twenty-two, and that men have forty-six active chromosomes while women only have forty-five. That, I have to admit, is true.

[Prince Velvetear]

The Great Heat Miser

Lambs and Lions

The two X's are homologous chromosomes, they have the same alleles. If you are going to say that the two X's are unique then all the chromosomes are unique and we would have 46 sets of unique chromosomes.

Yes. Forty-six unique chromosomes. I already said that.

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I am okay with you saying that but if you want to argue that way I will have to point out that one of the X chromosomes in every mature diploid female cell goes through a process of lyonization. Basically what this means is that it curls up and become inactive throughout all g0 phase of its life. So men have 46 active chromosomes in their cell at a time while women have 45.

Okay. So far, you've pointed out that women have twenty-three homologous chromosomes, while men have only twenty-two, and that men have forty-six active chromosomes while women only have forty-five. That, I have to admit, is true.

I didn't think I would have to do this but 46 > 45.

This constitutes to a greater variance of genes per cell. I am not going to use the correct term superior because you can't get over your connotations and semantics with the word. But I am sure we can both agree that the 46 active chromosomes of a male will contribute to a greater variance of genes than the 45 active chromosomes of a female.

[The Great Heat Miser]

Lambs and Lions

The Great Heat Miser

Lambs and Lions

The two X's are homologous chromosomes, they have the same alleles. If you are going to say that the two X's are unique then all the chromosomes are unique and we would have 46 sets of unique chromosomes.

Yes. Forty-six unique chromosomes. I already said that.

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I am okay with you saying that but if you want to argue that way I will have to point out that one of the X chromosomes in every mature diploid female cell goes through a process of lyonization. Basically what this means is that it curls up and become inactive throughout all g0 phase of its life. So men have 46 active chromosomes in their cell at a time while women have 45.

Okay. So far, you've pointed out that women have twenty-three homologous chromosomes, while men have only twenty-two, and that men have forty-six active chromosomes while women only have forty-five. That, I have to admit, is true.

I didn't think I would have to do this but 46 > 45.

This constitutes to a greater variance of genes per cell. I am not going to use the correct term superior because you can't get over your connotations and semantics with the word. But I am sure we can both agree that the 46 active chromosomes of a male will contribute to a greater variance of genes than the 45 active chromosomes of a female.

The Great Heat Miser

Okay. So far, you've pointed out that women have twenty-three homologous chromosomes, while men have only twenty-two, and that men have forty-six active chromosomes while women only have forty-five. That, I have to admit, is true.

[Prince Velvetear]

I do not know what more you want. I stated the fact that men have superior genetices (meaning they have a higher variance and more genes) You said that was the stupidest s**t you have ever heard. I explained to you how this is correct and now all you can argue is semantics.

Are we both at an agreement that men have a greater range of genetic material? Are you still upset that you are wrong?

[The Great Heat Miser]

Lambs and Lions

I do not know what more you want. I stated the fact that men have superior genetices (meaning they have a higher variance and more genes) You said that was the stupidest s**t you have ever heard. I explained to you how this is correct and now all you can argue is semantics.

Are we both at an agreement that men have a greater range of genetic material? Are you still upset that you are wrong?

Actually, I'm laughing about this at this point.
Seems I've misjudged you.

[Macaroni Junior]

*peeks in*
....is the sexism gone yet?
ninja

[Prince Velvetear]

The Great Heat Miser

Lambs and Lions

I do not know what more you want. I stated the fact that men have superior genetices (meaning they have a higher variance and more genes) You said that was the stupidest s**t you have ever heard. I explained to you how this is correct and now all you can argue is semantics.

Are we both at an agreement that men have a greater range of genetic material? Are you still upset that you are wrong?

Actually, I'm laughing about this at this point.
Seems I've misjudged you.

Care to explain how you misjudged me? I am hoping this is about the "stupid s**t I've ever heard" comment.

[Tactical Leg Sweep]

[The Great Heat Miser]

Lambs and Lions

The Great Heat Miser

Lambs and Lions

I do not know what more you want. I stated the fact that men have superior genetices (meaning they have a higher variance and more genes) You said that was the stupidest s**t you have ever heard. I explained to you how this is correct and now all you can argue is semantics.

Are we both at an agreement that men have a greater range of genetic material? Are you still upset that you are wrong?

Actually, I'm laughing about this at this point.
Seems I've misjudged you.

Care to explain how you misjudged me? I am hoping this is about the "stupid s**t I've ever heard" comment.

No, it's about your post format. It's all wrong.

[PCp Troll]

The Joys of BEing a Diety. Your Gender Issues are Of No Concern to Me.

[Prince Velvetear]

The Great Heat Miser

No, it's about your post format. It's all wrong.

How so?