Marriage

[Pompeiian]

Karyu-tono

Amor Sempiternus

Karyu-tono

Amor Sempiternus

Karyu-tono

I've considered doing that myself whenever I decide to get married~.

Awesome smile Only difficultly will be finding a priest to officiate it all (in Latin).

Very true, haha. How did you find your priest?

We haven't wink We've only done the plebian-style marriage, which can be done with just the two people getting wed; an offering is made, a sacred vow taken (in Latin) and then food is exchanged and a marking made on the forehead with dirt.

It's the full-out aristocratic style one, which includes the priest, that we're hoping for sometime in the future if all goes swimmingly well.

That sounds awesome, I wish you the best of luck. Just a question though, don't most priests know Latin? I thought learning Latin was a part of their training to be a priest. xd

Not Christian priests razz One who practises the Roman Reconstructionist religion is preferable (they exist! Mostly in connection with re-enactment groups).

[SmallTownGuy]

At what age? When I was still in grad school, age 23.

Does it still work? Going on 32 years and still counting.

Was it always easy? As our pastor said in his sermon this morning, "If two people never disagree, it means only one of them is thinking." We both think.

Is it still needed today? Just look at the alternative. I've seen plenty of single mothers. (I'm related to a couple.) The ones who manage to make it work usually rely heavily on tremendous support communities (usually family). In effect, they're married to that community. Without the support, it gets ugly.

[Olya]

Marriage is a legal institution. I do not favour the opposing polar views on it. There are people who believe it to be the ultimate show of love and devotion that comes with a price tag you'll be paying off for 20 years (or your parents, anyway because they had to take out a second mortgage). There are people who believe marriage to be a religious institution. They are not familiar with history. Then there are people who deem marriage unnecessary and I pile those into the category of rebellious teens who have no understanding of economical, social, and legal significance of marital contract.

And this is all that marriage is - a legal binding contract meant to ensure a stronger economical, social, and legal standing of two individuals committed to living together. Love, romanticism, and commitment have nothing to do with marriage because if marriage is a requirement for them to exist, you probably shouldn't be getting married.

I would say that ideal age is over 20 and under 30. You want to get married before your biological clock starts screaming "get pregnant NOW!!!"

I got married a little before I turned 22. Very happy with my decision. We had a committed, loving, monogamous relationship and were very tired of having to be separated in two different countries. Visits on vacations and holidays + Skype every day became an insane emotional stress on both of us. Mind you, from the start of the relationship there was always an understanding that we would get married in a couple of years. The event simply took place 1 to 2 years sooner and was far more spontaneous than we had anticipated. It was the case of "******** it! you're not leaving again! we're engaged anyway, so let's just go and sign the god damn papers!" Two weeks later we were married xd

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[PrincessNeko]

Starving_Artist

The science of human biology begs to differ. Humans are not monogamous creatures and were never meant to be. Male brains are wired to spread the seed and female brains are hard wired to seek out the Alpha Male who would ensure protection and superior genetics for their offspring. This doesn't mean that we don't feel love or can't be monogamous, it just means that we weren't exactly programmed for such a restrictive sexual code. Our species actually adapts and evolves better with multiple partners. A child receives the best portion of his mother and the best genetic portion of his father, as well as those of his grandfathers and their grandfathers. By mating with multiple partners we ensure that offspring have a better chance of survival because they're getting all of the best. Monogamy ensures that each child is no better or worse than the one before it and slows the pace of human evolution.

Oversimplification.

That doesn't take into account what sort of SOCIAL benefits come from monogamy. That we have biologically successful (meaning reproductively successful) societies within which monogamy is the predominant practice suggests that we are in some ways reaping major benefits from the arrangement.

One of the drawbacks that I can see coming from polygamy is in the investment of resources. Certainly, you could, as a male decide to just procreate like crazy to beat the odds regarding who survives, or alternatively, you could decide to instead focus your resources on raising a few children and raise the chances that each child has to "succeed" by limiting the spread of resources. With polygamy, a male's resources are spread out among his many mates...if a male decides, instead to choose a single "quality" mate, his resources are less distributed and he gets "quality" offspring. Considering that survival is no longer as much of a concern within societies like the U.S., it actually makes more sense to go with the alternative route.

And this doesn't even take into account that some females of our species (particularly within monogamous societies) get a big say to whom they get hitched.

[Avgvsto]

I want to get married eventually but I want to be a kid for about another ten years.

[Resonare Praeteriti]

Amor Sempiternus

Karyu-tono

Amor Sempiternus

Karyu-tono

Amor Sempiternus

Karyu-tono

I've considered doing that myself whenever I decide to get married~.

Awesome smile Only difficultly will be finding a priest to officiate it all (in Latin).

Very true, haha. How did you find your priest?

We haven't wink We've only done the plebian-style marriage, which can be done with just the two people getting wed; an offering is made, a sacred vow taken (in Latin) and then food is exchanged and a marking made on the forehead with dirt.

It's the full-out aristocratic style one, which includes the priest, that we're hoping for sometime in the future if all goes swimmingly well.

That sounds awesome, I wish you the best of luck. Just a question though, don't most priests know Latin? I thought learning Latin was a part of their training to be a priest. xd

Not Christian priests razz One who practises the Roman Reconstructionist religion is preferable (they exist! Mostly in connection with re-enactment groups).

Really? There's hope!? *cries tears of joy* All is not lost! I thought one would have to get a Roman Catholic priest and persuade the s**t out of him to get him to do it. XD Perhaps you'd have some luck in Italy in that case? I mean, even though Roman Reconstructionists exist it's a big world with a lot of people, but surely there are a substantial amount in Italy for obvious reasons. 3nodding

[[M.S.T]]

Discuss this. No matter how you try to define marriage, it is still just a human concept as far as tradition is concerned. When you put the philosophy to the scope of history, you're presented with a dynamic connection that is about as synonymous to human as bipedal is. I can never get over the broadness of what species are affected by pairing issues with a mate. Though I have explained it to other people that we are more aware of what is going on so it's natural for us to be territorial.

I don't want to have kids until I'm married and quite frankly... If I can have it my way, there is not going to be a kid.
I know I'd buckle and give in to the wifey if that's the case.. But She's gonna have to compromise. Though all of that doesn't change that my Dad raised me with this idea that no matter what the case, I have to be able to take care of the family I make. He never told me I have to have a family though, it wasn't a matter of I have to carry on the name either.

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[Riviera de la Mancha]

Olya

Marriage is a legal institution. I do not favour the opposing polar views on it. There are people who believe it to be the ultimate show of love and devotion that comes with a price tag you'll be paying off for 20 years (or your parents, anyway because they had to take out a second mortgage). There are people who believe marriage to be a religious institution. They are not familiar with history. Then there are people who deem marriage unnecessary and I pile those into the category of rebellious teens who have no understanding of economical, social, and legal significance of marital contract.

And this is all that marriage is - a legal binding contract meant to ensure a stronger economical, social, and legal standing of two individuals committed to living together. Love, romanticism, and commitment have nothing to do with marriage because if marriage is a requirement for them to exist, you probably shouldn't be getting married.

I would say that ideal age is over 20 and under 30. You want to get married before your biological clock starts screaming "get pregnant NOW!!!"

I got married a little before I turned 22. Very happy with my decision. We had a committed, loving, monogamous relationship and were very tired of having to be separated in two different countries. Visits on vacations and holidays + Skype every day became an insane emotional stress on both of us. Mind you, from the start of the relationship there was always an understanding that we would get married in a couple of years. The event simply took place 1 to 2 years sooner and was far more spontaneous than we had anticipated. It was the case of "******** it! you're not leaving again! we're engaged anyway, so let's just go and sign the god damn papers!" Two weeks later we were married xd

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And this is all that marriage is - a legal binding contract meant to ensure a stronger economical, social, and legal standing of two individuals committed to living together. Love, romanticism, and commitment have nothing to do with marriage because if marriage is a requirement for them to exist, you probably shouldn't be getting married. ------ You

Just because love is not a necessary component for marriage, it does not mean it cannot be a part of marriage. This means that marriage is not always just simply a legal contract. To use your argument, it is entirely possible that marriage does not give birth to love, but that love gives rise to a desire to marry.

[Pompeiian]

Karyu-tono

Amor Sempiternus

Karyu-tono

Amor Sempiternus

Karyu-tono

Very true, haha. How did you find your priest?

We haven't wink We've only done the plebian-style marriage, which can be done with just the two people getting wed; an offering is made, a sacred vow taken (in Latin) and then food is exchanged and a marking made on the forehead with dirt.

It's the full-out aristocratic style one, which includes the priest, that we're hoping for sometime in the future if all goes swimmingly well.

That sounds awesome, I wish you the best of luck. Just a question though, don't most priests know Latin? I thought learning Latin was a part of their training to be a priest. xd

Not Christian priests razz One who practises the Roman Reconstructionist religion is preferable (they exist! Mostly in connection with re-enactment groups).

Really? There's hope!? *cries tears of joy* All is not lost! I thought one would have to get a Roman Catholic priest and persuade the s**t out of him to get him to do it. XD Perhaps you'd have some luck in Italy in that case? I mean, even though Roman Reconstructionists exist it's a big world with a lot of people, but surely there are a substantial amount in Italy for obvious reasons. 3nodding

We're actually going to Italy in September on holiday, so we can look around a bit then!

[Olya]

The point is that your relationship should be like you're married BEFORE you get married. Signing on a dotted line will not make your S.O. have eyes for you only. It will not make you love your spouse more. He will not magically start turning his socks right side out and her cakes will not spontaneously improve. There are no miracles the next morning. The eggs still taste like eggs and that a*****e still beats you to the loo. Only now you can make medical appointments for each other (which in my marriage means that I make all of them).

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Riviera de la Mancha

Olya

Marriage is a legal institution. I do not favour the opposing polar views on it. There are people who believe it to be the ultimate show of love and devotion that comes with a price tag you'll be paying off for 20 years (or your parents, anyway because they had to take out a second mortgage). There are people who believe marriage to be a religious institution. They are not familiar with history. Then there are people who deem marriage unnecessary and I pile those into the category of rebellious teens who have no understanding of economical, social, and legal significance of marital contract.

And this is all that marriage is - a legal binding contract meant to ensure a stronger economical, social, and legal standing of two individuals committed to living together. Love, romanticism, and commitment have nothing to do with marriage because if marriage is a requirement for them to exist, you probably shouldn't be getting married.

I would say that ideal age is over 20 and under 30. You want to get married before your biological clock starts screaming "get pregnant NOW!!!"

I got married a little before I turned 22. Very happy with my decision. We had a committed, loving, monogamous relationship and were very tired of having to be separated in two different countries. Visits on vacations and holidays + Skype every day became an insane emotional stress on both of us. Mind you, from the start of the relationship there was always an understanding that we would get married in a couple of years. The event simply took place 1 to 2 years sooner and was far more spontaneous than we had anticipated. It was the case of "******** it! you're not leaving again! we're engaged anyway, so let's just go and sign the god damn papers!" Two weeks later we were married xd

gaia_angelleft gaia_star gaia_angelright

And this is all that marriage is - a legal binding contract meant to ensure a stronger economical, social, and legal standing of two individuals committed to living together. Love, romanticism, and commitment have nothing to do with marriage because if marriage is a requirement for them to exist, you probably shouldn't be getting married. ------ You

Just because love is not a necessary component for marriage, it does not mean it cannot be a part of marriage. This means that marriage is not always just simply a legal contract. To use your argument, it is entirely possible that marriage does not give birth to love, but that love gives rise to a desire to marry.

[Resonare Praeteriti]

Amor Sempiternus

Karyu-tono

Amor Sempiternus

Karyu-tono

Amor Sempiternus

Karyu-tono

Very true, haha. How did you find your priest?

We haven't wink We've only done the plebian-style marriage, which can be done with just the two people getting wed; an offering is made, a sacred vow taken (in Latin) and then food is exchanged and a marking made on the forehead with dirt.

It's the full-out aristocratic style one, which includes the priest, that we're hoping for sometime in the future if all goes swimmingly well.

That sounds awesome, I wish you the best of luck. Just a question though, don't most priests know Latin? I thought learning Latin was a part of their training to be a priest. xd

Not Christian priests razz One who practises the Roman Reconstructionist religion is preferable (they exist! Mostly in connection with re-enactment groups).

Really? There's hope!? *cries tears of joy* All is not lost! I thought one would have to get a Roman Catholic priest and persuade the s**t out of him to get him to do it. XD Perhaps you'd have some luck in Italy in that case? I mean, even though Roman Reconstructionists exist it's a big world with a lot of people, but surely there are a substantial amount in Italy for obvious reasons. 3nodding

We're actually going to Italy in September on holiday, so we can look around a bit then!

Sounds like a plan to me~. It would be pretty cool if you found one and did the entire thing while in Italy, and it would make for a nice story to tell friends and family. biggrin