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It depends how broad you consider the representation to be. If you think a 22 minute animated program can adequately represent a 'culture' on its own, then you really should sterilize yourself as soon as possible.

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Bold for point, underlined for what I didn't notice the first time I read it. However, how many seasons has it been running? How many episodes? Hell, I think you could sum up a culture [more or less] in two season. And why do you think it being animated takes away from the complexity?

Yes, I am trying here.
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It depends how broad you consider the representation to be. If you think a 22 minute animated program can adequately represent a 'culture' on its own, then you really should sterilize yourself as soon as possible.

confused


Bold for point, underlined for what I didn't notice the first time I read it. However, how many seasons has it been running? How many episodes? Hell, I think you could sum up a culture [more or less] in two season. And why do you think it being animated takes away from the complexity?

Yes, I am trying here.


Animated programs aren't exactly known for their educational capabilities or depth of thought, and that's okay. Could a culture be explained in full with the airtime the boondocks has had? I don't think so. I've been living in one area my entire life and the local 'culture' I still don't understand sometimes.
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It depends how broad you consider the representation to be. If you think a 22 minute animated program can adequately represent a 'culture' on its own, then you really should sterilize yourself as soon as possible.

confused


Bold for point, underlined for what I didn't notice the first time I read it. However, how many seasons has it been running? How many episodes? Hell, I think you could sum up a culture [more or less] in two season. And why do you think it being animated takes away from the complexity?

Yes, I am trying here.


Animated programs aren't exactly known for their educational capabilities or depth of thought, and that's okay. Could a culture be explained in full with the airtime the boondocks has had? I don't think so. I've been living in one area my entire life and the local 'culture' I still don't understand sometimes.


Educational influence is one thing [and that is a matter of opinion], but accurately portraying a culture [though, keep in mind it's a comic strip] is not deemed as "educational" by most. Just asking if the portrayal [minus the ridiculous moments] is accurate.

As far as the culture around you, I'm sure you have a good feeling about the folkways, mores, social norms, greetings, dating customs, rituals, music, gender roles, how sub-cultures are treated, et c. And that sounds like you have a good idea.
I haven't been in a sociology class for a while, so I can't disagree with you and give reason why I do other then it just doesn't sound right to me.
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I haven't been in a sociology class for a while, so I can't disagree with you and give reason why I do other then it just doesn't sound right to me.


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To be fair, I'm on and off studying for my sociology test on Tuesday.

I will agree with you, that it doesn't sound right, but I think it's because of the silliness and childishness of cartoons [our perspective in America, anyway].
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You might want to pick something a bit more obscure to run this test properly. But with that said:
Style and pose screams of Shaolin inspiration. Therefore, I would assume Chinese (or more likely, a fantasy-world analog thereof.)


Yeah should have used Goku for that example. As even though his name is GOKU everyone assumes he's a white ET. Much like Superman. When you think about it Superman nor Goku are any race since they are both aliens. but that's probably another topic anyway.....

Loving this debate about what's American and what isn't.
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Ok, so this had been rolling around in my head for a while, and I was debating whether to make this a topic or not, since I'm sure to get some ignorant "shut up n***a!" posts in here. rolleyes But I decided, "hey, why not?"

As a black female, I enjoy watching the Boondocks. I realize that the show is one of satire, but one can't help but notice some similarities to the black community:

-Thoughts on spanking
-Snitching
-Use of the word "niggah" vs "n****r"
-Black Nationalist Movement
-The "Gangsta" Lifestyle
-"n***a Moments"

So what do you think ED? Some questions for you:

Does the Boondocks accurately (or somewhat accurately) represent black culture or black community as a whole?
What are your thoughts/feelings on the use of the word n***a? Should it ever be used? Is there a difference between "n***a" and "n****r"
Do you like/hate/love the Boondocks, and why? (The why is more important people.)



Okay, I I think that yes, the Boondocks is somewhat a representation of black culture, but I honestly think a lot of the "culture" today doesn't come from shows or family or whatnot, but from the attitudes of people at schools, malls, sporting events etc. My thoughts/feelings on the use of the word n***a is that if you are comfortable using it, then use it, though it shouldn't ever be used in a derogatory or hurtful manner (such as someone from the KKK saying it) But between friends and family and whatever if that's what you're okay with then by all means. I actually like watching/reading the boondocks comics and shows because they are humurous! As someone who's had many interracial friendships/relationships/family members, I would say that a lot of it is easy to identify with and it just makes me laugh.
Boondocks represents office culture as much as Dilbert represents office culture. It's not an accurate portrayal of the culture, it's not supposed to be an accurate portrayal of the culture, it's a satirical portrayal of the culture through the eyes of someone who used to be part of it, twisting and amplifying the problems to both make them funnier and because that's what social commentary does in order to point them out (just look at any political cartoon). There is a very strong "don't talk to the police" mentality in the ghettos, it has gone far enough that it's now an official slogan on t-shirts, and it is a problem. It doesn't go so far that a man can get shot in broad daylight in front of an entire audience watching a basketball game, only to have the whole audience leave a note saying "we didn't see anything", but it is causing a lot of trouble in the ghettos, which is why the Boondocks portrayed it as such. It just wouldn't be the same if the episode was about Huey seeing a drug dealer off in the corner and not running to the police snitching on him, as is a much more accurate portrayal of the "stop snitching" mentality.
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Boondocks represents office culture as much as Dilbert represents office culture. It's not an accurate portrayal of the culture, it's not supposed to be an accurate portrayal of the culture, it's a satirical portrayal of the culture through the eyes of someone who used to be part of it, twisting and amplifying the problems to both make them funnier and because that's what social commentary does in order to point them out (just look at any political cartoon). There is a very strong "don't talk to the police" mentality in the ghettos, it has gone far enough that it's now an official slogan on t-shirts, and it is a problem. It doesn't go so far that a man can get shot in broad daylight in front of an entire audience watching a basketball game, only to have the whole audience leave a note saying "we didn't see anything", but it is causing a lot of trouble in the ghettos, which is why the Boondocks portrayed it as such. It just wouldn't be the same if the episode was about Huey seeing a drug dealer off in the corner and not running to the police snitching on him, as is a much more accurate portrayal of the "stop snitching" mentality.


I think Dilbert represents office culture.
The Boondocks is more of an analysis of the short comings of black culture. It's more or less meant to make African Americans rethink their lifestyles, but in a light-hearted enjoyable manner.
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Kaosgirl

You might want to pick something a bit more obscure to run this test properly. But with that said:
Style and pose screams of Shaolin inspiration. Therefore, I would assume Chinese (or more likely, a fantasy-world analog thereof.)

Yeah should have used Goku for that example. As even though his name is GOKU everyone assumes he's a white ET. Much like Superman. When you think about it Superman nor Goku are any race since they are both aliens. but that's probably another topic anyway.....
Loving this debate about what's American and what isn't.


How did I miss this?

The Goku thing is probably why the main character was white.

Superman is like, from Kansas. He lived on farm with Ma and Pa Clark. He was totally a white guy.
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Kaosgirl

You might want to pick something a bit more obscure to run this test properly. But with that said:
Style and pose screams of Shaolin inspiration. Therefore, I would assume Chinese (or more likely, a fantasy-world analog thereof.)

Yeah should have used Goku for that example. As even though his name is GOKU everyone assumes he's a white ET. Much like Superman. When you think about it Superman nor Goku are any race since they are both aliens. but that's probably another topic anyway.....
Loving this debate about what's American and what isn't.


How did I miss this?

The Goku thing is probably why the main character was white.

Superman is like, from Kansas. He lived on farm with Ma and Pa Clark. He was totally a white guy.

goku was asian, technically a sayian, but his name is japanese for rice or something simialr hell his sayian name means carrot
as for superman, ill give you the whole white thing, i mean you cant get whiter than superman, i mean if you look into it, his name superman comes from the nazi idea of ubermensch the supreme race meh any how yeah.
i ******** love that show. too bad though. because now i say n****r all the time. have the few black people i've said it around not noticed or not cared?
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Kaosgirl

You might want to pick something a bit more obscure to run this test properly. But with that said:
Style and pose screams of Shaolin inspiration. Therefore, I would assume Chinese (or more likely, a fantasy-world analog thereof.)

Yeah should have used Goku for that example. As even though his name is GOKU everyone assumes he's a white ET. Much like Superman. When you think about it Superman nor Goku are any race since they are both aliens. but that's probably another topic anyway.....
Loving this debate about what's American and what isn't.


How did I miss this?

The Goku thing is probably why the main character was white.

Superman is like, from Kansas. He lived on farm with Ma and Pa Clark. He was totally a white guy.

goku was asian, technically a sayian, but his name is japanese for rice or something simialr hell his sayian name means carrot
as for superman, ill give you the whole white thing, i mean you cant get whiter than superman, i mean if you look into it, his name superman comes from the nazi idea of ubermensch the supreme race meh any how yeah.


Son Goku is the Japanese name for Sun Wukong, the main character in the classical Chinese epic novel Journey to the West. Goku was named and modeled after him, with both having extending/size changing staves, traveling on clouds, and being monkeys.

Edit: Ubermensch has nothing to do with Superman or Nazis. It was created by Nietzsche years before the Nazis came into power, and goes against quite a few of their ideals. He was created by a pair of Jews.
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Kaosgirl

You might want to pick something a bit more obscure to run this test properly. But with that said:
Style and pose screams of Shaolin inspiration. Therefore, I would assume Chinese (or more likely, a fantasy-world analog thereof.)

Yeah should have used Goku for that example. As even though his name is GOKU everyone assumes he's a white ET. Much like Superman. When you think about it Superman nor Goku are any race since they are both aliens. but that's probably another topic anyway.....
Loving this debate about what's American and what isn't.


How did I miss this?

The Goku thing is probably why the main character was white.

Superman is like, from Kansas. He lived on farm with Ma and Pa Clark. He was totally a white guy.

goku was asian, technically a sayian, but his name is japanese for rice or something simialr hell his sayian name means carrot
as for superman, ill give you the whole white thing, i mean you cant get whiter than superman, i mean if you look into it, his name superman comes from the nazi idea of ubermensch the supreme race meh any how yeah.


Son Goku is the Japanese name for Sun Wukong, the main character in the classical Chinese epic novel Journey to the West. Goku was named and modeled after him, with both having extending/size changing staves, traveling on clouds, and being monkeys.

Edit: Ubermensch has nothing to do with Superman or Nazis. It was created by Nietzsche years before the Nazis came into power, and goes against quite a few of their ideals. He was created by a pair of Jews.


nazis didn't create the swastika, either. further, it's original meaning really doesn't fit with the overall theme of National Socialism. guess that means they didn't use it as part of their propaganda . . .

see how your reasoning fails?

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