Is science a religion?

[xolanni]

What do you think ????

"There is a religious motive for doing science, but it does not entail a belief in a personal God." (Albert Einstein)

"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals Himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings." (Albert Einstein)

"Science is almost totally incompatible with religion." Peter Atkins.

"The difference between faith and a conditional reliance on observation of the natural world is profound. It is the unresolvable difference between religion and science." Mark Friesel

A newspaper article:
http://www.thehumanist.org/humanist/articles/dawkins.html

[CB_Young]

Is science itself a religion? No, it's not. A scientist could have religous motivations, the two are not mutuly exclusive.

[sparksius]

You can prove that science exists, but you cannot prove that god does, therefore I cannot say that science is a religion.

[JLbass]

Science can be followed as a religion, maybe in a metaphorical sense.
Like Art.
Science is NOT a religion.
Science goes by facts. Religion by faith.

It is the scientist who can seem like religious when doing his/her research. In the metaphorical sense.

Science itself is not a religion

[tiptep]

I guess science could be a religion, why not, Jedi is.
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[Mr. Styx]

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[Aphrodine]

sparks_501

You can prove that science exists, but you cannot prove that god does, therefore I cannot say that science is a religion.

You obviously know very little of science if you believe you can prove it.

Quote:

You study it, you change it.
--Mendeleev

Our human nature always tries to simply every thing in life in the most logical and simplistic way possible. Way say, "Ah! Yes! You SEE a table, but that table is composed of MOLECULES which are nothing more than bonded ATOMS which are composed of ELECTRONS and QUARKS!"

However, to study an electon you must first either find its energy level or know the exact location. If you know its energy level, it is impossible to find its exact location. If you know the electron's exact location, you can not study its energy level, which effects the very makeup of the atom's composition itself.

Hence, you study it, you change it.

Therefore, if you study the electron, you minutely change the atom and change the molecule and change the very table you look at. But a scientist is perfectly happy that with that fact.

So how much can you really rely on science?

Also, it is very interesting that you brought up Albert Einstein into this discussion. He did not accept the electron theory BECAUSE he was religious.

Quote:

"God does not throw dice!"
--Albert Einstein"

Obviously, we've proved that the electrons exsisted, something that Albert Einstein would not accept. It was at the very end of his life when Albert Einstein was able to become accepted into the scientific community after that, as soon as he proposed "The Theory of Everything"--something he failed to do. In fact, scientists today are working on the "Theory of Everything." We call it "The String Theory."

I'll... post an insanely brief summary of the String Theory in just a moment, as I feel it ties in with this discussion.

[bizzarexxxdarkangel]

I don't think science is a religion .. of course not. they're 2 different things..

[pushead]

Mr. Styx

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for those who couldnt read this:
Religion is a science.
However, is not one of the sciences that creates us.

[Mr. Styx]

Artist Of The Crypt

Mr. Styx

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for those who couldnt read this:
Religion is a science.
However, is not one of the sciences that creates us.

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[Aphrodine]

Rylioun Cage

Is science itself a religion? No, it's not. A scientist could have religous motivations, the two are not mutuly exclusive.

Which brings me to the String Theory...

Anybody who actually passed science at an elementary school level can tell you that there are three fundamental forces that act upon our universe as we know it: Magnetism, Electricity, and Gravity. Albert Einstein was able to combine two of these forces together--we know it as Electromagnetism. (Have trouble understanding this? I can explain.)

Supposively, these two/three forces work together in are universe as thus: objects of greater mass have more gravitational energy than objects of small mass, and that electrons have a magnetic field that generate electricity (thus creating bonds in atoms, but preventing electrons from colliding. On an interesting note, that means you are hovering one micron about your computer chair right now).

Since we all accept the forces of gravity and electromagnetism, we assume that BOTH forces are being acted upon right now in the universe (duh! They'd have to right?).

Well... they're SUPPOSED to, anyways.

You see, both forces CONTRADICT each other! How can objects be attracted to each other AND repel each other?

The "Theory of Everything" or "String Theory" is supposed to unite these two forces together.

What I'm trying to explain is that scientists are religious. Like faith, we ACCEPT these forces without any LOGICAL proof of them. Furthermore, string theory states that everything can be simplified into vibrational energy, such as music when played on a violen.

Isn't that how you explain God/gods/godesses? How can we say that both can not coexsist?

[edit: Feeling anemic. Please forgive me if I am being incoherent or any serious grammar/spelling errors.]

[pushead]

Mr. Styx

Artist Of The Crypt

Mr. Styx

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for those who couldnt read this:
Religion is a science.
However, is not one of the sciences that creates us.

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[sparksius]

Aphrodine

sparks_501

You can prove that science exists, but you cannot prove that god does, therefore I cannot say that science is a religion.

You obviously know very little of science if you believe you can prove it.

I challenge you to prove that you cannot prove science exists.


On another note... Scientology is a religion.

[Aethernaut]

Science and religion are fundamentally mutually exclusive. Science revolves around proof, deduction, and questioning the status quo. Religion is based on the unprovable, faith, and following dogma.

There was an interesting analysis of this somewhere on the web but I forgot. Maybe try google for "faith reason religion" or something
sweatdrop

[+Cyber_Repentance+]

Science is baised on a belief system.. science is based on a fact system... they normally don't mix well.. because they contridict in other constantly baised on the groups opinions.