Mika Talanis
prof-whoriarty
Mika Talanis
The concepts are not connected. Its not 'a taking of a life', its 'eating of another member of the animal kingdom'.
doesn't that seem like a waste of a life?
shouldn't you put it to use if it's going to die?
He was asking about the stance on abortion.
and humans, according to you, are on equal planes to one another, meaning that if you're okay with killing human fetuses than you should be fine with killing other animals as long as we're not eating them, since that's your problem with it apparently.
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For many its not about the killing, its the eating of your neighbor.
they're not our neighbor. I have no emotional connection with the chicken that I'm currently cooking as I reply to you. this chicken never lived near me, I never spoke to it, I have no way of communicating with it at all. it was literally born to die so that way we could consume it.
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You wouldn't go to your neighbor's home and cut a piece off of him to fry up,
I ******** hate my neighbors, actually. If I were starving and for some reason there was no food left anywhere other than our fellow man, my neighbors would be the first to be on a frying pan.
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so why would you do it to another member of the animal kingdom?
because it's the circle of life, we've got to eat. Plants are alive as well and there have been studies done that showed that they have emotions just the same as animals [
source]. If I chose to not eat anything else out of remorse then I'd literally die of starvation. humans need to eat, bottom line.
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Yes for some its a combination of the two, but usually the moral opposition comes from the fact that they are killed inhumanely and they are made to suffer.
they aren't human, so why should we go out of the way to treat them humanely? Have you ever worked on a farm that breeds animals to eat them? I've personally helped my friend clean her pig pen (she's feeding them to fatten them up before they're sold for slaughter to make her school money for funds) and let me tell you, it's a pain in the a** to get it halfway decent seeming. pampering them while they're alive would take far too much energy, especially considering how many animals usually are in a place like that. it's a lot of ******** work and takes a lot of time and energy that most people just don't have. you've got to be realistic.
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When comparing that with say abortion it doesn't fit because there is no suffering involved.
you're right, it's just murdering a fellow human being right before it has the chance to have a life of its own.
please keep in mind that I'm not personally against abortion, though.
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Personally i don't really take issue with those who hunt their own food or buy from local farmers, because the animals are treated properly.
No they aren't treated very well at local farms. I've been and worked in local farms before and let me tell you that the living arrangements aren't exactly nice; the stalls are really small, the pens aren't exactly clean, they're given dirty water and hardly any attention. it's still not exactly an ideal life for the animals to live before being murdered and I would in no way consider it humane seeing as though we'd never allow a human being to be treated that way.
and I'd like to know why you're okay with hunting, just out of curiosity?
