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Have you ever considered Infantilism?

Yes. 0.11057947900053 11.1% [ 416 ]
No. 0.69883040935673 69.9% [ 2629 ]
I am an infantilist...And I hearby claim one of your cookies! 0.19059011164274 19.1% [ 717 ]
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You should try a pacifier, darlin'. Nothin' wrong with a pacifier, Alot of my 'normal' friends still cuddle a plushie or teddy to get to sleep.

I recently bought a 'Groove' teddy from a childrens educational program called 'The Hoobs'. i'm awaiting it too arrive but I'll be SOOOO happy when it does! ^_^
 
     
 
samsam511
In today’s Sociology class, we discussed a hegemonic discourse that imposes a specific standard of beauty, femininity and normalcy in the society. Think of Barbie dolls, fashion magazines, TV shows and commercials: we constantly receive a message that you should be ‘beautiful’ in a certain way but not others.

One of the articles we read for class was about plastic surgeries.* I assume that there is a massive amount of feminist literature on this issue. The authors identify two perspectives on cosmetic surgery in the literature:
1. False Consciousness and the Male Gaze (those women are completely dictated by the hegemonic discourse of ‘what women should look like’)
2. Free Choice (the benefits of exercising free choice–feeling and being perceived as normal– outweigh the consequences of embodying hegemonic norms)
They try to make an argument that both are right but incomplete because those women do not recognize the hegemonic structure but they feel liberated after the surgery. In my opinion, however, the result of the interviews they conducted with 15 women who had a cosmetic surgery obviously supports the false consciousness argument much more strongly, even though the discourse comes not only from the male gaze, but also from the female gaze, media and capitalism.

Now, it is easy to criticize those who were too self-conscious about the size of their breasts, the height/width of their noses, and wrinkles on their faces. But what about those who had a breast-cancer surgery, or had an accident and got a big scar on the face? In a more everyday context, what about makeup, shaved legs, and high-heels? The logic behind their decision of wearing makeup is the same with that of having a plastic surgery.

The following is some quotes from the paper. Try to apply ‘the decision of wearing makeup’ or ‘the decision of shaving your legs’ to them:
“What the women in our sample failed to recognize was the way that their personal exercise of power reified the hegemonic culture, including compulsory heterosexuality as well as inequalities based on race, social class and age.” (826)
“The decision ….reified existing hegemonic norms regarding beauty and femininity and has unintended consequences for all women.” (826)
“Cosmetic surgery is an expression of the totalization of power than a means of liberation. Yet ironically, it is at this point that women feel liberated.” (835)

You can probably understand why it sounds very hypocritical if you criticize those who do plastic surgeries while you wear makeup everyday unless you can make a very good argument that “the degree” and “the circumstance” really matter and you can specify them.

Anyways, despite my argument so far, it is not my point to reveal the hypocrisy or to persuade you to abandon cosmetics. My main question is, can we exercise our power to dissuade those insecure women from having a plastic surgery or wearing makeup? Although their decision to go for it has a consequence of perpetuating the hegemonic discourse and ultimately harms all women, do we have rights to say that their feeling of insecurity should be overcome, and that they do not have ‘freedom to feel better’ in this hegemony? I know it is very frustrating for all fighters, which I regard myself as one of, but all I can do is to tell them the logic; I cannot give them a sense of security.

*Patricia Gagne and Deanna McGaughey “Designing Women: Cultural Hegemony and the Exercise of Power among Women Who Have Undergone Elective Mammoplasty” Gender and Society Vol.16, No.6 (Dec.2002), pp.814-838

(Thanks Asexual-Slut~Enya for the hint. ^^)

~Panda-chan <3


O...Kay?

This definately isn't a 'cosmetic' issue, nor am I female...

I am accepted in society and enjoy being who I am...

So could you please explain just what all that (in the infamous words of Mr. T) jibba jabba was about?
     
EliteDanneh

O...Kay?

This definately isn't a 'cosmetic' issue, nor am I female...

I am accepted in society and enjoy being who I am...

So could you please explain just what all that (in the infamous words of Mr. T) jibba jabba was about?

He's spamming that crap everywhere. He didn't even write it in the first place
 
     
 
Gaol Veil
EliteDanneh

O...Kay?

This definately isn't a 'cosmetic' issue, nor am I female...

I am accepted in society and enjoy being who I am...

So could you please explain just what all that (in the infamous words of Mr. T) jibba jabba was about?

He's spamming that crap everywhere. He didn't even write it in the first place


Ah! Thank you very much for solving my confusion.

Anyways, dear sir, do you care to give any input on this topic? ^_^
     
Anyways...Now that the odd poster has left...

Anyone want to discuss anything to do with Infantilism? I'm up for any criticism or questions you want to throw at me.
 
     
 
All I want to say is that I feel the same about this as you also.
     
it sounds to me that its just another away and a reason not to grow up and be an adult tacking responsibility for one acts.
 
     
life is a b***h and then you die, get over it.
 
dragonlover11
it sounds to me that its just another away and a reason not to grow up and be an adult tacking responsibility for one acts.


Um, no.
The same could be said about Gaia, you. know. Avoiding reality by hiding behind a computer screen. If that's the case, is your life ssooo lame that you have to create one here? *le gasp*

As long as a fetish doesn't consume one's life and inhibit daily fuctioning, then it's okay.
     
As long as no one is hurt, to each his/her own 3nodding
 
     
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Atma311
As long as no one is hurt, to each his/her own 3nodding


Good way to view it.
     
MistressBlaire
dragonlover11
it sounds to me that its just another away and a reason not to grow up and be an adult tacking responsibility for one acts.


Um, no.
The same could be said about Gaia, you. know. Avoiding reality by hiding behind a computer screen. If that's the case, is your life ssooo lame that you have to create one here? *le gasp*

As long as a fetish doesn't consume one's life and inhibit daily fuctioning, then it's okay.


Thank you, guess I don't have to say it.

Anything can be used as an escape, Infantilism may be an escape...But you can't escape living, but you can feel good, so if that's a crime and i'm not taking on responsibility. (3 Businesses, need I say more?) then so be it.
 
     
 
Danneh ish so cute. He reminds me of a lost little 5 year old at a carnival, standing there with his blanky, looking for his mommy, while his eyes are gazed upon a big stuffed animal.
     
I would just ike to start by saying thank-you to the creator of this thread. You have created a thread that is not about badgering other people about what they enjoy. Thank-you.

Secondly - I do admit, I enjoy caring for, and almost treating my signifigant other as an infant. I enjoy doing things like brushing his hair, rubbing his back, and the act of his "suckling" is a major turn on. In fact, when I had my son and was breast feeding, this was a major turn on for the both of us. He is not an infantalist though, it is more just fun for us and somthing that we enjoy.
 
     

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