I have a question for athiest and non believers

[kitty8594]

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I'd get used to it.

i dont think so if its there for a eternal punishment then i dont think god would let you get used to it

God forgives all. Says so in the Bible. You wouldn't go to hell in the first place--most likely. If it exists.

Plus, if it does exist, it isn't anything like you imagine it to be.

god forgives you if you want to beforgiven and you repent and want to stop sinning if you dont then you go to hell no probly not but the bible dose say wat its like to we can get a basic image

What happens when you sin in heaven?

you dont sin in heaven god gives you a new body and you are not capable of sin anymore

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I'd get used to it.

i dont think so if its there for a eternal punishment then i dont think god would let you get used to it

God forgives all. Says so in the Bible. You wouldn't go to hell in the first place--most likely. If it exists.

Plus, if it does exist, it isn't anything like you imagine it to be.

god forgives you if you want to beforgiven and you repent and want to stop sinning if you dont then you go to hell no probly not but the bible dose say wat its like to we can get a basic image

There is no hell.

i beleive that is wrong there is a hell because y would god make rules if there was no penalty for disobeying them because if there is no penalty for sin then all the ppl would disobey them he dsnt want that

What kind of god punishes those who disobey or simply don't believe in him? Not a god I'd ever want to believe in, that's for sure.

[GunsmithKitten]

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i beleive that is wrong there is a hell because y would god make rules if there was no penalty for disobeying them because if there is no penalty for sin then all the ppl would disobey them he dsnt want that

Though it makes more sense if Hell is nothing more than removal and seperation from God. The pain that you are forever cast out of the presence of your creator and the greatest joy of all. Any sensation, even the worst physical pain, means nothing after enough time.

That's supposed to be more signifigant than just being scorched in a lake that was likely more the product of Dante's inferno than Christianity.

[GunsmithKitten]

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you dont sin in heaven god gives you a new body and you are not capable of sin anymore

Funny he couldn't give that new body to us after Adam screwed up and he made the rest of us pay for his mistake....

[kitty8594]

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God forgives all. Says so in the Bible. You wouldn't go to hell in the first place--most likely. If it exists.

Plus, if it does exist, it isn't anything like you imagine it to be.

god forgives you if you want to beforgiven and you repent and want to stop sinning if you dont then you go to hell no probly not but the bible dose say wat its like to we can get a basic image

There is no hell.

i beleive that is wrong there is a hell because y would god make rules if there was no penalty for disobeying them because if there is no penalty for sin then all the ppl would disobey them he dsnt want that

What kind of god punishes those who disobey or simply don't believe in him? Not a god I'd ever want to believe in, that's for sure.

what kind of parent punishes a child for disobeying a loveing one if they didnt they wouldnt care same with god

[Ryukahn Shade]

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Well, this was a wall of text that I thought might be legit. Guess not. It was just a long rant of hate.

It was not a rant of hate...where was I being hateful in this? I was simply opening up the possiblity that Chrisitanity is not the only religion out there, and may not be the right one.

Sarcasm Man

I know that no Bibles ever made have been proven wrong. Considering it can't be proven wrong.

How do you know that the Bible hasn't been proven wrong?
Where is this supposed Garden of Eden, located in the middle of the four rivers...Tigris, Euphrates, and the other two i cannot remember. How are we able to find the rivers on the Earth...but not the Garden? If Noah took 7 of each land animal male and female....and do not tell me it is 2 of each...what about the fresh water creatures....how did they survive? If you argue that the flood was a freshwater body...then why do we have all this salt water now instead of fresh water, and why did all the salt water species survive. Very contradictory.
Also, dating system is way off. Fossils say the Earth is millions of years old. Bible says less than 100,000....again contradictory and wrong.

Sarcasm Man

We can say Christianity is more than Aesop's Fables because Aesop's Fables uses personification of animals. Which doesn't happen.

Okay, so instead of using animals (which place no blame on humans directly), we have someone that has the guts to confront humanity with their own mistakes...and then gets later crucified because of it...they are still just stories to learn from. Yes, I know the crucifixion happened for more than that, but that was one of the reasons...humans don't like to face their mistakes and will silence anyone that points them out.

Sarcasm Man

We can say Christianity is the right path because we believe. If we were a dream, then it wouldn't matter what we thought. And what if it is the end. We believe it isn't and that is enough.

I never said you couldn't say that Christianity is the right path for you...yourself. But what gives you the right to tell someone else what they should choose to believe. My reference to other possible theories of existence were simply to say that Chrisitianity is not the only way. Your blow off of the "dream theory" and "atheist theory" were not valid. Just saying you don't believe it isn't the end or it won't matter what we believe...is not good enough, if christians cannot accept that answer from other religions as well.

(still waiting for a response from kitty8594 and Sarcasm Man if he is still on)

Here you go kitty, argue away, you have plenty of points to cover here...

For the fourth time I post this yet again, I hope you have some valid arguments for me kitty...for the effort that I have posted this 4 times now...

STILL WAITING KITTY. >.<

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GunsmithKitten

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you dont sin in heaven god gives you a new body and you are not capable of sin anymore

Funny he couldn't give that new body to us after Adam screwed up and he made the rest of us pay for his mistake....

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Also, what about free will? Is that a privilege of life on earth?

[RNS Esquire]

ok..im a christian..but i have a open mind..to open some would believe..i have a question..why poke into someones belief system or there lack of..question the God you serve under..i don't question God because he doesn't talk to me directly and i choose the decisions that happen to me..like if the chair im sitting in just suddenly breaks..i could cuss out God like nobody's business..or i could just get another one..and do the whatnot that im attending to..stop trying the atheist and none believers with these no nonsense questions and question your own religion

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@SheBangs Soup: you took the thoughts right out of m brain XD

[kitty8594]

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It was not a rant of hate...where was I being hateful in this? I was simply opening up the possiblity that Chrisitanity is not the only religion out there, and may not be the right one.



How do you know that the Bible hasn't been proven wrong?
Where is this supposed Garden of Eden, located in the middle of the four rivers...Tigris, Euphrates, and the other two i cannot remember. How are we able to find the rivers on the Earth...but not the Garden? If Noah took 7 of each land animal male and female....and do not tell me it is 2 of each...what about the fresh water creatures....how did they survive? If you argue that the flood was a freshwater body...then why do we have all this salt water now instead of fresh water, and why did all the salt water species survive. Very contradictory.
Also, dating system is way off. Fossils say the Earth is millions of years old. Bible says less than 100,000....again contradictory and wrong.


Okay, so instead of using animals (which place no blame on humans directly), we have someone that has the guts to confront humanity with their own mistakes...and then gets later crucified because of it...they are still just stories to learn from. Yes, I know the crucifixion happened for more than that, but that was one of the reasons...humans don't like to face their mistakes and will silence anyone that points them out.

I never said you couldn't say that Christianity is the right path for you...yourself. But what gives you the right to tell someone else what they should choose to believe. My reference to other possible theories of existence were simply to say that Chrisitianity is not the only way. Your blow off of the "dream theory" and "atheist theory" were not valid. Just saying you don't believe it isn't the end or it won't matter what we believe...is not good enough, if christians cannot accept that answer from other religions as well.

(still waiting for a response from kitty8594 and Sarcasm Man if he is still on)

Here you go kitty, argue away, you have plenty of points to cover here...

For the fourth time I post this yet again, I hope you have some valid arguments for me kitty...for the effort that I have posted this 4 times now...

STILL WAITING KITTY. >.<

i cant anser yet i ust gather information for a adiquate response im only ansering easy things right now

[Ryukahn Shade]

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ok one of them is job 40:15-24 the behemoth is a dinosaur

Are you kidding me? Behemoth is a creature in and of itself. It is not and has never been a dinosaur. Where in all the science, archeology does it call the behemoth a dinosaur? Is the sphinx and the Gryphon dinosaurs as well? How about the wooly mammoth? You can't just pick some random creature listed in the bible and call it a dinosaur....

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what is it then its a giant animal that is extinct now and had dinosaurish features i would count it as a dinosaur and the sphynx and gryphon never existed so of corse they arnt dinosaurs and i would count the wooly mammoth as a dinosaur

1) Are you trying to annoy me? You answer this post...but not the one above....>.< I take it you choose not to answer my post. Very well then, I accept your surrender to my argument...though...since you can't respond to it...it turns all your other points to mush and I no longer have any faith that you indeed know what you are talking about.

2) Dinosaurs are REPTILES....not Mammals...Wooly mammoths are mammals...enough said

3) Sphinx's are very real in Egyptian Culture/mythology, Gryphons...how do you know they don't exist. show me the physical proof of a behemoth.

4) Just because a creature was big...does not make it a dinosaur...there were several smaller dinosaurs as well.

5) Just because something goes extinct does not make it a dinosaur...using that logic...a dodo bird would indeed be a dinosaur...also...what exactly are dinsoarish features to you? Since they existed in all forms and varieties...I am unsure what you mean by that...

also waiting for a reply to this as well kitty. Please answer these two posts with your best arguments. I look forward to your answers.

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God forgives all. Says so in the Bible. You wouldn't go to hell in the first place--most likely. If it exists.

Plus, if it does exist, it isn't anything like you imagine it to be.

god forgives you if you want to beforgiven and you repent and want to stop sinning if you dont then you go to hell no probly not but the bible dose say wat its like to we can get a basic image

There is no hell.

i beleive that is wrong there is a hell because y would god make rules if there was no penalty for disobeying them because if there is no penalty for sin then all the ppl would disobey them he dsnt want that

What kind of god punishes those who disobey or simply don't believe in him? Not a god I'd ever want to believe in, that's for sure.

what kind of parent punishes a child for disobeying a loveing one if they didnt they wouldnt care same with god

What kind of god assigns eternal punishments to finite "crimes" (I put crimes in quotations because I refuse to be incriminated for not believing in something that has given me no reason to believe exists).

[kitty8594]

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you dont sin in heaven god gives you a new body and you are not capable of sin anymore

Funny he couldn't give that new body to us after Adam screwed up and he made the rest of us pay for his mistake....

This

Also, what about free will? Is that a privilege of life on earth?

well i dont really know the thing about adam i dont know how god thinks but the free will thing yes its a privilage on earth but it is also free will to want to go to heaven like i dont mind giving up free will to go live with god for all eternity i dont think of it as giving up free will because it it my will to go up to heaven receive a new body and not have to worry about sinning ever again and i think most chistians would feel that way to

[kitty8594]

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There is no hell.

i beleive that is wrong there is a hell because y would god make rules if there was no penalty for disobeying them because if there is no penalty for sin then all the ppl would disobey them he dsnt want that

What kind of god punishes those who disobey or simply don't believe in him? Not a god I'd ever want to believe in, that's for sure.

what kind of parent punishes a child for disobeying a loveing one if they didnt they wouldnt care same with god

What kind of god assigns eternal punishments to finite "crimes" (I put crimes in quotations because I refuse to be incriminated for not believing in something that has given me no reason to believe exists).

a just god if you think about it he is more merciful than a judge on earth like if a killer says he is sorry and really means it he still has to go to jail but if that killer says the same thing to god he will not go to hell
and he gives us plenty of reasons to beleive he exists you can find lots of books and stuff full of evidence that proves it

[Kimihiro_Watanuki]

Kitty is a ******** that doesn't know s**t about the religion she subscribes to except what someone has told her. You're all wasting your time.

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