I have a question for athiest and non believers

[pockybot]

Res Ipsa Loquitor

Gho the Girl

Res Ipsa Loquitor

I do not believe in hell.

I sure wish Christians would just step up their game and collectively go visit their god.

God is always with me.

This is assuming He exists.

He doesn't, in case you were wondering.

See, why do we fight, you and I...when on so many issues(religion, race, gay issues, etc) we strongly agree on similar points

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Dark Lord Drake

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Dark Lord Drake

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Dark Lord Drake

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If I die and "go to hell" well, so be it. I'm not going to waste my life away worrying over what is going to happen when I die. What a waste of ******** time.
Life is short, enjoy living instead of fighting over what happens when we die.

Who said you have to waste your life over it? That's a pretty stupid thing to assume.

No it's not. Lives are wasted over this exact topic daily. Innocent lives of people caught in the cross fire of wars in the name of this very thing.

And? Considering the issue doesn't force you into any kind of war.

How do you know it doesn't/hasn't? You don't. So, just keep comments like that to yourself. My opinions on this topic are formed on years of experience and research.
Fighting over religion is a pointless venture in which all involved lose.

I know it because I've considered it and that hasn't caused a war yet, retard.

Your opinions lack any experience of research as evidenced by it's clearly false conclusion.

I never said fighting over it had a point, idiot.

See, now this is what really ******** me off about people like you who argue this point into oblivion.
It is perfectly OK for someone else to believe something different than you. You have /no/ right to call me such disgusting names. Show some respect, as I do for you.

You really need to grow up and look at the world and the things that really matter.
As for there being no religious wars? Have you been living under a rock your entire life? Have you never studied history? You are really showing how dense you are now.

Also, Dear. I have studied in this subject, diploma and all. After years of having religion shoved down my throat, being disowned by my family and friends, I chose my own path.
I choose to believe in life and death. Nothing more, nothing less.

And this it for me. I now remember why I abandoned ED. People like you.
Thanks.

[Ryukahn Shade]

kitty8594

Snowfaun Warrior

kitty8594

ok one of them is job 40:15-24 the behemoth is a dinosaur

Are you kidding me? Behemoth is a creature in and of itself. It is not and has never been a dinosaur. Where in all the science, archeology does it call the behemoth a dinosaur? Is the sphinx and the Gryphon dinosaurs as well? How about the wooly mammoth? You can't just pick some random creature listed in the bible and call it a dinosaur....

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what is it then its a giant animal that is extinct now and had dinosaurish features i would count it as a dinosaur and the sphynx and gryphon never existed so of corse they arnt dinosaurs and i would count the wooly mammoth as a dinosaur

1) Are you trying to annoy me? You answer this post...but not the one above....>.< I take it you choose not to answer my post. Very well then, I accept your surrender to my argument...though...since you can't respond to it...it turns all your other points to mush and I no longer have any faith that you indeed know what you are talking about.

2) Dinosaurs are REPTILES....not Mammals...Wooly mammoths are mammals...enough said

3) Sphinx's are very real in Egyptian Culture/mythology, Gryphons...how do you know they don't exist. show me the physical proof of a behemoth.

4) Just because a creature was big...does not make it a dinosaur...there were several smaller dinosaurs as well.

5) Just because something goes extinct does not make it a dinosaur...using that logic...a dodo bird would indeed be a dinosaur...also...what exactly are dinsoarish features to you? Since they existed in all forms and varieties...I am unsure what you mean by that...

[I got bored one day]

Less brain cells than a bag of rocks...

[Mobilize For War]

pockybot

Res Ipsa Loquitor

Gho the Girl

Res Ipsa Loquitor

I do not believe in hell.

I sure wish Christians would just step up their game and collectively go visit their god.

God is always with me.

This is assuming He exists.

He doesn't, in case you were wondering.

See, why do we fight, you and I...when on so many issues(religion, race, gay issues, etc) we strongly agree on similar points

We agree on lots of things and we at least see where each other is coming from in regards to many other things.

However, one of us a bit of a loon and it ain't me.

[Fine Art of Poisoning]

Goodnight Gravity

Yes OP,
But ask yourself this.
If atheists and nonbelievers were to do as you say and pray/worship out of fear,
Wouldn't an omniscient god know that their piety was a falsehood?
I think a deity would want their followers to worship for more than fear.

Also, SheBangs Soup = PageStretcher! burning_eyes

Very true. Also most followers pray to god through the use of a cross, statue, or image, ergo going against one of the most basic of commandments.
BOOM, to hell with those followers.

[Dark Lord Drake]

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Dark Lord Drake

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Dark Lord Drake

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No it's not. Lives are wasted over this exact topic daily. Innocent lives of people caught in the cross fire of wars in the name of this very thing.

And? Considering the issue doesn't force you into any kind of war.

How do you know it doesn't/hasn't? You don't. So, just keep comments like that to yourself. My opinions on this topic are formed on years of experience and research.
Fighting over religion is a pointless venture in which all involved lose.

I know it because I've considered it and that hasn't caused a war yet, retard.

Your opinions lack any experience of research as evidenced by it's clearly false conclusion.

I never said fighting over it had a point, idiot.

See, now this is what really ******** me off about people like you who argue this point into oblivion.
It is perfectly OK for someone else to believe something different than you. You have /no/ right to call me such disgusting names. Show some respect, as I do for you.

Your own fault. Don't try and sound so high and mighty if you don't want to get taken down a peg.

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You really need to grow up and look at the world and the things that really matter.

You need to grow up and realize that what matters is subjective.

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As for there being no religious wars? Have you been living under a rock your entire life? Have you never studied history? You are really showing how dense you are now.

No you are retard, I never said there were none, I was talking about the cause.

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Also, Dear. I have studied in this subject, diploma and all.

Internet tough guys are a dime a dozen.

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After years of having religion shoved down my throat, being disowned by my family and friends, I chose my own path.

Oh boohoo we're supposed to feel sorry for you.

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I choose to believe in life and death. Nothing more, nothing less.

So what?

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And this it for me. I now remember why I abandoned ED. People like you.
Thanks.

Hooray.

[The Great Heat Miser]

Fine Art of Poisoning

Goodnight Gravity

Yes OP,
But ask yourself this.
If atheists and nonbelievers were to do as you say and pray/worship out of fear,
Wouldn't an omniscient god know that their piety was a falsehood?
I think a deity would want their followers to worship for more than fear.

Also, SheBangs Soup = PageStretcher! burning_eyes

Very true. Also most followers pray to god through the use of a cross, statue, or image, ergo going against one of the most basic of commandments.
BOOM, to hell with those followers.

No.
Just, no.
Really.
I'm serious this time.
You're off by a mile.

[Fine Art of Poisoning]

The Great Heat Miser

Fine Art of Poisoning

Goodnight Gravity

Yes OP,
But ask yourself this.
If atheists and nonbelievers were to do as you say and pray/worship out of fear,
Wouldn't an omniscient god know that their piety was a falsehood?
I think a deity would want their followers to worship for more than fear.

Also, SheBangs Soup = PageStretcher! burning_eyes

Very true. Also most followers pray to god through the use of a cross, statue, or image, ergo going against one of the most basic of commandments.
BOOM, to hell with those followers.

No.
Just, no.
Really.
I'm serious this time.
You're off by a mile.

So are you stalking me now?

Anyway instead of concentration all your words to let me know how wrong I am, please elaborate as to "why".

[Auntie Proton]

skinnypurtorican

What if you died today (not believeing in god) and god sent you to hell , how would you react (keep in mind that hell is a place where maggots are treated better than humans) ???

and another question

Wouldnt it be easier to pray,read the bible, and go to church (which doesnt take
that much time) , rather than spend an eternity in hell ???

Some people think that hell is not a bad place to be but until you go there you will never know

I would be happy that I can continue to live, even if it's in Michigan. ******** that place is cold...
Well, it would, except my options are to do those things or not. Not doing them does not obligate me to do anything else and I'll be damned if I'm forced to pray to any god.

[The Great Heat Miser]

Fine Art of Poisoning

So are you stalking me now?

Are you going to believe me if I say no?

Fine Art of Poisoning

Anyway instead of concentration all your words to let me know how wrong I am, please elaborate as to "why".

But why elaborate when I can just give you the puzzle pieces and watch you try and piece things together?

Exodus 20:4-6

4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand {generations} of those who love me and keep my commandments.

Fine Art of Poisoning

Also most followers pray to god through the use of a cross, statue, or image.

Let's see what you've got, kiddo.

[Gho the Girl]

Fine Art of Poisoning

Goodnight Gravity

Yes OP,
But ask yourself this.
If atheists and nonbelievers were to do as you say and pray/worship out of fear,
Wouldn't an omniscient god know that their piety was a falsehood?
I think a deity would want their followers to worship for more than fear.

Also, SheBangs Soup = PageStretcher! burning_eyes

Very true. Also most followers pray to god through the use of a cross, statue, or image, ergo going against one of the most basic of commandments.
BOOM, to hell with those followers.

Idolatry is the worship of false idols.

The cross is a symbol of Jesus Christ, but we don't worship the cross, we use it as a reminder of Jesus.

[Fine Art of Poisoning]

First-off;
A 'god', by definittion, is a supernatural being worshipped as controlling some part of the world or some aspect of life or who is the personification of a force. (source)

A saint, by definition, is a person officially recognized, especially by canonization, as being entitled to public veneration and capable of interceding for people on earth. (source)
Catholics pray to these saints for certain specific things (ie strength, both mental and physical)
If not for saints, then they pray to the Angels, Archangels, Jesus Christ andor the Virgin Mary.

Would you consider it fair to say that saints, as well as the rest of the godly hierarchy, are basically a personification of a force?

Secondly;
Exodus, Chapter 20;
'You shall not make for yourself a carved image--any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.'

Go into any church and let me know if there isn't at least one person making the sign or the cross in front of a statue, painting or row of candles. All of which were made in to represent God.

[Captain Verd]

Fine Art of Poisoning

First-off;
A 'god', by definittion, is a supernatural being worshipped as controlling some part of the world or some aspect of life or who is the personification of a force. (source)

A saint, by definition, is a person officially recognized, especially by canonization, as being entitled to public veneration and capable of interceding for people on earth. (source)
Catholics pray to these saints for certain specific things (ie strength, both mental and physical)
If not for saints, then they pray to the Angels, Archangels, Jesus Christ andor the Virgin Mary.

Would you consider it fair to say that saints, as well as the rest of the godly hierarchy, are basically a personification of a force?

Secondly;
Exodus, Chapter 20;
'You shall not make for yourself a carved image--any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.'

Go into any church and let me know if there isn't at least one person making the sign or the cross in front of a statue, painting or row of candles. All of which were made in to represent God.

People do not pray to those things. They use them to pray to God.

Saints are not "images" or "likenesses". They sit closer to God. Asking a Saint to put in a good word for you with God is not the same thing as putting a Saint ABOVE Him.

[The Great Heat Miser]

Fine Art of Poisoning

First-off;
A 'god', by definittion, is a supernatural being worshipped as controlling some part of the world or some aspect of life or who is the personification of a force. (source)

A saint, by definition, is a person officially recognized, especially by canonization, as being entitled to public veneration and capable of interceding for people on earth. (source)
Catholics pray to these saints for certain specific things (ie strength, both mental and physical)
If not for saints, then they pray to the Angels, Archangels, Jesus Christ andor the Virgin Mary.

Would you consider it fair to say that saints, as well as the rest of the godly hierarchy, are basically a personification of a force?

Secondly;
Exodus, Chapter 20;
'You shall not make for yourself a carved image--any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.'

Go into any church and let me know if there isn't at least one person making the sign or the cross in front of a statue, painting or row of candles. All of which were made in to represent God.

Hold on. I think there's something you missed there.

Exodus 20:5

5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them;

That's it. Right there. The big problem.