I have a question for athiest and non believers

[Dragon In A Tree]

I haven't read it in it's entirety either.
I was raised a Protestant, but I don't count myself as a Protestant. Didn't even have a Christian confirmation.

I had a humantarian one.

I don't think you have thought of it too much. I've given it a lot of thought too, and if I'd have to spend an eternity like that... Well, let's just say I hope it is possible to take suicide in heaven and end up in hell. :/ Would be more to do there anyway, if that is how heaven is.

[Sid Chastity]

Kitsune no Zetsumei

I haven't read it in it's entirety either.
I was raised a Protestant, but I don't count myself as a Protestant. Didn't even have a Christian confirmation.

I had a humantarian one.

I don't think you have thought of it too much. I've given it a lot of thought too, and if I'd have to spend an eternity like that... Well, let's just say I hope it is possible to take suicide in heaven and end up in hell. :/ Would be more to do there anyway, if that is how heaven is.

I did go to Sunday school and followed all those steps a good Catholic should. I even go to confession like once in a blue moon. Religion is part of my major actually. Classics and Religion, so I study religion along with Roman and Greek History. It kind of makes sense, though. Christianity was important in the Roman Empire. But yeah, I'm not worried about dying. I'm just interested in what kinds of theories there are out there as to what the afterlife is like. I find them fascinating.

[Velvet Rythym]

Kitsune no Zetsumei

I haven't read it in it's entirety either.
I was raised a Protestant, but I don't count myself as a Protestant. Didn't even have a Christian confirmation.

I had a humantarian one.

I don't think you have thought of it too much. I've given it a lot of thought too, and if I'd have to spend an eternity like that... Well, let's just say I hope it is possible to take suicide in heaven and end up in hell. :/ Would be more to do there anyway, if that is how heaven is.

I couldn't image living forever. Once I'm done, I just want to be done. I don't want to continue living eternity in either place. I would just want it to be over. I'd probably go insane after awhile.

[The_Springheeled_Jack]

Velvet Rythym

Kitsune no Zetsumei

I haven't read it in it's entirety either.
I was raised a Protestant, but I don't count myself as a Protestant. Didn't even have a Christian confirmation.

I had a humantarian one.

I don't think you have thought of it too much. I've given it a lot of thought too, and if I'd have to spend an eternity like that... Well, let's just say I hope it is possible to take suicide in heaven and end up in hell. :/ Would be more to do there anyway, if that is how heaven is.

I couldn't image living forever. Once I'm done, I just want to be done. I don't want to continue living eternity in either place. I would just want it to be over. I'd probably go insane after awhile.

Yeah, a regular lifespan is long as it is. And who knows? If there is a heaven, maybe everyone DOES go insane eventually.

[eaaf03]

skinnypurtorican

What if you died today (not believeing in god) and god sent you to hell , how would you react (keep in mind that hell is a place where maggots are treated better than humans) ???

and another question

Wouldnt it be easier to pray,read the bible, and go to church (which doesnt take
that much time) , rather than spend an eternity in hell ???

Some people think that hell is not a bad place to be but until you go there you will never know

If I was sent to hell, I would deal with it. It happened. It's not like there would be a court of appeals.

As for being praying and reading the bible and going to church not taking time, can you say your heart is in it if it doesn't take time? I'd rather think and act on helping the human race and how to make people's lives better than spend time in church. While I consider myself religious, I don't think God wants you to go to church out of obligation to make sure you don't go to hell, but to go to be inspired by God's works, think about God's words deeply, and to help your fellow humans.

For those of us who don't believe in god, that doesn't make us morally corrupt. There are good people in the world who don't believe in god. I think that God, if God existed, wants us to learn to be at peace with each other, more than remembering to worship him. Once we would be at peace with each other, would his presence be better felt?

[lumnata]

What's so great about so-called Heaven? I mean, what do you do there, sit around and praise God and sing Hallelujahs and s**t? Nothx.

And if there IS a God cruel enough to send his creations to a real Hell just because HE ******** up his design? I don't want to worship him anyway.

[Dragon In A Tree]

Sid Chastity

I did go to Sunday school and followed all those steps a good Catholic should. I even go to confession like once in a blue moon. Religion is part of my major actually. Classics and Religion, so I study religion along with Roman and Greek History. It kind of makes sense, though. Christianity was important in the Roman Empire. But yeah, I'm not worried about dying. I'm just interested in what kinds of theories there are out there as to what the afterlife is like. I find them fascinating.

Depending on how I find my Religion and Ethics classes to be like, I might actually take Religion as a Subject in University. Maybe get a Master Degree or something. biggrin I also wish to study English, Greek, Japanese and Latin. Not to mention "Translation" which you're taught how to better translate English into Norwegian.

Hehe, in Rome resides the Pope. Kind of funny that I've been in the previous Pope's hometown.

I'm not worried about dying either. Except if I go to the stereotypical Heaven that you see on television with harps and angel choire.

Then I'll jump down from one of those goddamned clouds.

I find peoples theories of the afterlife interesting as well. smile 'Specially Christians and the Hindu and Buddhish views.

Velvet Rythym

couldn't image living forever. Once I'm done, I just want to be done. I don't want to continue living eternity in either place. I would just want it to be over. I'd probably go insane after awhile.

I know what you mean.. imagine living with your mother next door to you for the rest of eternity... Imagine seeing your friends and family's faces for the rest of eternity.

I'd be sick of them too after a while. I'd be sick of people in general after a while.

And most of all, I'd be sick of living..


There's acually a really interesting story in a book series I've read called "The Legnof the Ice People" about the topic of immorality.

Let me share with you.

There was a man, who really feared the aspect of dying. One day when he was on the mountain, it started to snow. He grew so cold, that he collapsed. All he could do was lie there and hope not to die.

Eventually he fainted.

When he woke up, the snow was gone and it was summer. A tad bit confused, he returned home to his wife and children, who was thrilled to see him again, since he had been gone for four months.

Years passed by, and eventually his wife died, and his children started to grow old. Eventually they died as well, and his grand children got children, and they got children.

Yet still he lived.

He got a new wife, but after she passed away too, he decided that the grief was too much to bear, so he didn't re-marry again.

Now he no longer feared death, quite the opposite.. He wished for it. He longed to see his deceased loved ones again.

After years had passed, and he was the only one who was left on this planet... someone came for him. They took found his wrinkled, almost in-human body, which couldn't even speak anymore for he was too dried up. They extracted the information they wanted from his brain, and asked him if he wanted to come with them.

He shook his head slightly, and they finally let him die.

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The story certainly isn't word - to - word correct, since it's been a while since I read it. smile

[Velvet Rythym]

I might have to read that =O (I need a new book desperately)

There is just so many things in Christian teachings that I just don't agree with, or I don't believe in. I've thought about it a lot. I've been called an attention whore, just trying to be different, so I say I don't believe in God but that's not it at all.

There are SO many things I've heard that I cannot find in my heart to believe or put my faith in. God himself seems like an egotistical b*****d, if I do say so myself >.>
So, when death does come, i'll be praying that i'll go out like a candle instead of finding myself living again.

[Dragon In A Tree]

Hehe.. Book? It's 47 books in the series. I think that story is in book number twenty-something.

If you want, when I can find the book another time and translate it properly. Since that was just on memory. smile

Also a really good one about a flood. A man had taken refuge on the roof... and when a small boat sailed by and tried to rescue him, he said "God will save me." So the boat left. Later a bigger boat sailed by and he had water up to his chest, and when the people tried to help him, he said "God will save me". And so they left as well.

After a while, when the man stood with the water to almost to his mouth, a helicopter flew by. They also tried to help him, but the man just said "God will save me".

In the end, the man died.

When he got to heaven and asked St. Peter (I think it was) why God didn't save him, St. Peter just looked at him and said "What do you think the two boats and that hellicopter was?!"

I love the author. She writes in such a way that you're just not reading the books. You're experiencing it with the characters. smile

And there's alot of characters. The author is nover 80 years old, and is still writing series.

She is considered to be one of the greatest Scandinavian authors.

I quite agree with you. The consept of God doensn't bother me much... and had the values in the bible been better... I'd most likely be a Christian.

But I do not see the necessity of a God who would command a people to murder an entire city like he did in the Moses books... I don't see the need of a God who would throw people into Hell just because they didn't believe without any evidence.

God seriously has an ego complex, and is really jealous.

Well, if we do end up in hell, let's go speak with other intellectuals that's ended up there as well. smile

[The_Springheeled_Jack]

Kitsune no Zetsumei

Hehe.. Book? It's 47 books in the series. I think that story is in book number twenty-something.

If you want, when I can find the book another time and translate it properly. Since that was just on memory. smile

Also a really good one about a flood. A man had taken refuge on the roof... and when a small boat sailed by and tried to rescue him, he said "God will save me." So the boat left. Later a bigger boat sailed by and he had water up to his chest, and when the people tried to help him, he said "God will save me". And so they left as well.

After a while, when the man stood with the water to almost to his mouth, a helicopter flew by. They also tried to help him, but the man just said "God will save me".

In the end, the man died.

When he got to heaven and asked St. Peter (I think it was) why God didn't save him, St. Peter just looked at him and said "What do you think the two boats and that hellicopter was?!"

I love the author. She writes in such a way that you're just not reading the books. You're experiencing it with the characters. smile

And there's alot of characters. The author is nover 80 years old, and is still writing series.

She is considered to be one of the greatest Scandinavian authors.

I quite agree with you. The consept of God doensn't bother me much... and had the values in the bible been better... I'd most likely be a Christian.

But I do not see the necessity of a God who would command a people to murder an entire city like he did in the Moses books... I don't see the need of a God who would throw people into Hell just because they didn't believe without any evidence.

God seriously has an ego complex, and is really jealous.

Well, if we do end up in hell, let's go speak with other intellectuals that's ended up there as well. smile

See ya there friend.

[ArcadeFire09]

I'm gunna roll with whatever SheBangs Soup says, because that list was wicked. Normally I would accept your challenge and attempt to make it blow up in your face. You know, how I normally do things. But that first post pretty much covers it. NEED I SAY MORE?

[Velvet Rythym]

Kitsune no Zetsumei

Hehe.. Book? It's 47 books in the series. I think that story is in book number twenty-something.

If you want, when I can find the book another time and translate it properly. Since that was just on memory. smile

Also a really good one about a flood. A man had taken refuge on the roof... and when a small boat sailed by and tried to rescue him, he said "God will save me." So the boat left. Later a bigger boat sailed by and he had water up to his chest, and when the people tried to help him, he said "God will save me". And so they left as well.

After a while, when the man stood with the water to almost to his mouth, a helicopter flew by. They also tried to help him, but the man just said "God will save me".

In the end, the man died.

When he got to heaven and asked St. Peter (I think it was) why God didn't save him, St. Peter just looked at him and said "What do you think the two boats and that hellicopter was?!"

I love the author. She writes in such a way that you're just not reading the books. You're experiencing it with the characters. smile

And there's alot of characters. The author is nover 80 years old, and is still writing series.

She is considered to be one of the greatest Scandinavian authors.

I quite agree with you. The consept of God doensn't bother me much... and had the values in the bible been better... I'd most likely be a Christian.

But I do not see the necessity of a God who would command a people to murder an entire city like he did in the Moses books... I don't see the need of a God who would throw people into Hell just because they didn't believe without any evidence.

God seriously has an ego complex, and is really jealous.

Well, if we do end up in hell, let's go speak with other intellectuals that's ended up there as well. smile

O.o well that'll keep me busy for awhile, eh? xD

I've heard that story(in some form) before.

Ego complex is the perfect way to describe it. As long as I don't have to be surrounded by thoughtless, smiley, brainwashed believers for all eternity, I'll take anything. It's just amazing how someone who is supposed to be so pure would make his "Children" suffer just because they have a unique way of thinking.

[Dragon In A Tree]

Problem is not all the books has been translated to English. xD Actually only the first few books has been translated to English. Loved the first books though. The series follows a family from late 1500's to the 1960's. It's really funny when the Catholic priests... It's so obvious that the author has something seriously against the old priests and their hunger for power. razz

Love how much history you can intake in that series as well ^^

Yeah, you probably have. smile I think I've heard that story in a form earlier as well.

Yes, I know. God is quite "mememememememe" right? razz

Well, there's always the possibility that most of the bible just something to scare the kiddies into behaving, and that the real God, if such a thing exist, doesn't even have a correct religion following said God.

If there is such a thing as a higher divine being, then my guess is that there's truth behind every religion, and that we all just know bits and pieces of, and the rest has just been added up on throughout the years.

[Oripavine]

I'd rather go to hell any day then have a bunch of preachy bullshit forced into my brain.

[Dramas_Melody]

Haha..yeah. This is a subject I ponder day in and day out. It is a mysterious, wonderful, and a terrifying thing to think about. No one knows how, what, and where we go when we die. Like everyone has said before me, theres many possibilities. Sometimes I get sick at our own race because ppl all over the world are fighting over such rediculous things when its just natural for our ever growing minds to think such things.