I have a question for athiest and non believers

[Vital_Idol]

Eteles

Assuming I actually got sent to hell? I would try to take over. In my morality, we be good in order to make the world good, so if all the people in hell began acting good and finding ways to make it a good place, hell would become heaven.

Even if you're all alone in hell, stuck in a pit of burning fire, you can recognize that hellfire has a certain beauty to it and concentrate on that until

Not that I want to have to do this. But I don't believe in worshiping something that might send you to hell for eternity. Not if he means it to remain a hell for you. Tough love is only actual love if it has your eventual growth in mind.

If you suddenly changed your mind when you saw hell, why wouldn't that be good enough for a second chance? No truly loving god would create a system like that.

Personally, I'd be willing to go through hell if it led to a greater good. And that's the only reason I can see for any sort of hell: as a pathway to a greater good. As there is no greater good than god, if god exists, hell cannot be eternal.

So in your morality, we all exist to serve some amorphous, intrinsic "greater good" that is willing to send its constituents to hell? That sure sounds moral to me. Everybody born into the servitude of the collective. I doubt God would be sending you to hell in the first place, since you seem to agree on so much.

[Quelisa]

What if you died today (not believeing in god) and god sent you to hell , how would you react (keep in mind that hell is a place where maggots are treated better than humans) ???

I'd probably look around and wonder why he put me on the second level of Hell. I'd also have to give a high five to God for being able to hide so well in my life. I love a guy that can stalk me for my entire life without me knowing it, the coward.

Wouldnt it be easier to pray,read the bible, and go to church (which doesnt take
that much time) , rather than spend an eternity in hell ???

Dude, total waste of my time. Why try and convert me to something I could care less about? Psh when I am in Hell, they will make me serve it by reading the Bible anyways. Ugh the irony. Bad day for all of us that aren't Christian... esp those Hindus and Wiccans. Seriously.

[The_Springheeled_Jack]

What if you died today and...nothing happened!? WTF!? "Noooo!" you scream as your soul fades into nothing, "this can't be true!"
Moral of the story: Don't live your life in fear, or waste time in a church. It works out pretty badly when you waste time on that crap.

Also, what's so great about Christian heaven? Vahalla holds a lot more appeal. Oh, and if I did somehow err in my calculations, and ended up in hell, or hel, or whatever, it wouldn't matter, I'd just join the home team. That's right. Look over your shoulder when I die, cause I keep an eye out for you if I end up in hell twisted
Besides, what do you think are the chances that your religion out of who knows how many, is right? Oh, and if you say it's because a single omnipotent deity appears in many cultures all over the world, don't forget. That's also true of dragons, and I don't see any in my backyard right now, do you?

[Eteles]

Vital_Idol

Eteles

Assuming I actually got sent to hell? I would try to take over. In my morality, we be good in order to make the world good, so if all the people in hell began acting good and finding ways to make it a good place, hell would become heaven.

Even if you're all alone in hell, stuck in a pit of burning fire, you can recognize that hellfire has a certain beauty to it and concentrate on that until

Not that I want to have to do this. But I don't believe in worshiping something that might send you to hell for eternity. Not if he means it to remain a hell for you. Tough love is only actual love if it has your eventual growth in mind.

If you suddenly changed your mind when you saw hell, why wouldn't that be good enough for a second chance? No truly loving god would create a system like that.

Personally, I'd be willing to go through hell if it led to a greater good. And that's the only reason I can see for any sort of hell: as a pathway to a greater good. As there is no greater good than god, if god exists, hell cannot be eternal.

So in your morality, we all exist to serve some amorphous, intrinsic "greater good" that is willing to send its constituents to hell? That sure sounds moral to me. Everybody born into the servitude of the collective. I doubt God would be sending you to hell in the first place, since you seem to agree on so much.

No, only I do. You can do whatever the ******** you like. But if you're making a worse world because of it, chances are you're going to make yourself unhappy down the line.

A knife is not a vicious b*****d for causing you pain when you cut yourself with it, and the world is not a vicious b*****d for becoming poison when you s**t where you eat. Will it throw random s**t at you anyway? Yes. But the more you make it a better place to live, the less that happens.

[Dragon In A Tree]

Scientifically, wouldn't it be mostly correct in thinking that after you died... That would be the end of it? Your breathing, thinking, senses and the whole-living thing you're doing.. Is all controlled by the brain.

When you die, all brain activity stop. So why would you sense, hear, see, feel, think or anything of the sort ever again? That seems unlogical.

Of course, it would be way to boring and pointless if you lived for 80 years (average life expancy in wealthier countries), and then there was no more?

Personally I find that to be the most likely ending. No punishment for your sins or reward for your good deeds. All sorts of punishment and rewards are given to you during your life.

However, I do hope that that isn't true.

If Christians are right, and we atheist, agnostics, jews, muslims, buddhists, hindus and all other religions are wrong and go to hell for not believing in the Christian god... Well, then I'll have a nice long conversation with the other non-Christans between all the torture in hell, kay?

That is one other thing I don't think makes sense... If Satan rules hell like many believe... why the hell would he TORTURE the ones going against the Christian god and the ones who didn't believe in him? Shouldn't he treat them relatively nicely, if nothing more to make sure that they would help him when the apocalypse arrives?

Makes much more sense the way Dante Alighieri featured hell... Satan being held prisoner in the deepest pits of hell.

But if that were the case, how would he play tricks on humanity and lure it into temptation?

The Christian religion is so full of contradictions, that I'm surprised that there's no Christian direction (that I know of at least) that's tried to connect all the dots.
Kinda funny too that hell is actually a mistranslation. smile In the Greek version it says "Hades" which means the Underworld. The Kingdom of Death. Death itself. Where EVERYONE resides when they die.

And yet, they translate it to hell... Wonder if Hell actually origined as a children story to scare the children into behaving and believing.

And here is something I just read in the Book of Revelation: "Re:20:12: And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works."

To me, that sounds like you are redeemed or damned not after whether you believed, but what kind of actions you did in life.

And here is the contradiction!

Re:21:8: But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Sounds like if you don't believe in God you get thrown away. Mmmh.

And this one is quite interesting: Re:20:4: And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Sounds like you're going to live with Christ for 1000 years, unless you're a servant of the Devil. THEN you'll decide whether you believe or not, THEN you'll get thrown into hell or taken into paradise.

Reason why I think it is in that order, is because it is written before the two other paragraphs I mentioned.

Also, a question to the Christians... Why do you think you're going to go to heaven?

Re:20:13: And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell[1] delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

[Hell here most likely being a mistranslation, since this is translated from Greek. And as earlier mentioned, the Greek word "Hades" which was used, does not mean hell, but the Underworld, the after life where all mortals go.

So it seems here that untill the day of judgement, you're going to STAY dead.

After that it says Re:21:1: And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

I interprate this as the Paradise will be on earth itself.

So tell me again, why does Christans believe they're going to Heaven, when it is said that the Kingdom of God is on earth?

[xAnother_Fallen_Angelx]

Hmmm well....

How do you know we atheists/non-believers will be going to Hell?

Just because you believe in God, doesn't always mean you will be going to Heaven.

and I agree, when you die, scientifically you cease to feel anything at all.

and to pretty much posed the same question, how would anyone know what it's like?

We'd already be dead.

-shrugs-

[Mr Bob Arctor]

skinnypurtorican

What if you died today (not believeing in god) and god sent you to hell , how would you react (keep in mind that hell is a place where maggots are treated better than humans) ???

and another question

Wouldnt it be easier to pray,read the bible, and go to church (which doesnt take
that much time) , rather than spend an eternity in hell ???

Some people think that hell is not a bad place to be but until you go there you will never know

Why would Satan do Gods work is beyond me. Why would God create Hell?

Oh I still rather spend the rest of my life with the fun people in Hell then boring people in Heaven.

I would rather not waste my time with such a hateful religion anyways.

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Well, being an 'non-believer', I wouldn't give a flying rats a**.
I mean, I don't believe that there is a 'God' over head, and performs mircales, and yadda-yadda. So why should I care, if you say he is going to send me to Hell? xD
It's not much a threat, for someone who doesn't believe in it in the first place. : P
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[Serra014]

if you were alive in the middle ages or in the time of rome you wouldn't be saying that worshipping is all that easy. Read some history and reflect on it

[Oliver Pi]

I used to go to church, I used to go to Sunday school, and I actually used to listen to what the pastor had to say. And what she had to say was that "God knows who has a genuine faith in him."

So even if I went to church, read the bible, and wore a cross around my neck, my "faith" would not be genuine, therefore I would be sent to hell anyway.

However, I don't really see the point in answering this because I don't have any fear that I'm going any place after I die, except into the ground.

[Serra014]

iiRONiiC

I used to go to church, I used to go to Sunday school, and I actually used to listen to what the pastor had to say. And what she had to say was that "God knows who has a genuine faith in him."

So even if I went to church, read the bible, and wore a cross around my neck, my "faith" would not be genuine, therefore I would be sent to hell anyway.

However, I don't really see the point in answering this because I don't have any fear that I'm going any place after I die, except into the ground.

I too attended church and have atteneded catholic school for half my academic career and i agree.
I like the way you think. very smart answer

[Lady silvershadow]

SheBangs Soup

You tell me. Here is a list of deities Christians and Athiests do not believe in. Would it be REALLY easier to follow all these dogmatic belief systems in hope that one of those is correct?

if you have not noticed yet Christians don't believe in any god/deity other than their one god and atheists don't believe in any higher being of any sort so that rules out EVERY deity except the christian god
(i should know my dads a priest and my best friends an atheist )

[XiaoFennec]

I would hope that God is practical and forgiving enough to understand. If you lead a loving and giving life regardless of who or what you worship, you should be rewarded in the afterlife. That is of course if there is a reward/punishment system in the afterlife, or if there is an afterlife at all.