Mei tsuki7
Xiam
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Eugh, Buzzfeed. Not clicking.
You know what confuses me? The double standard that a few batshit loudmouths don't represent all of feminists, yet you get a few batshit loudmouths on the MRAs' side and automatically they're all misogynists.
As far as I'm concerned, both sides are massive hypocrites who need to think about what they say, before they say it.
Senator Armstrong
I don't need feminism because the INEVITABLE HEAT DEATH OF THE UNIVERSE will render everything moot anyway.
The most compelling argument I've ever heard on this subject.
My biggest issue with MRA's is their extreme anti-feminist views while saying that the MRA movement is right and good and all that jazz. They also tend to ignore women's issues and believe they don't exist. While feminists actually fight for certain men's issues. MRA's also b***h on the internet while feminists go out in the world and do something. Basically, I see MRA's complaining about a lack of shelters for men and yet they're not raising money to start any. It's illogical.
Then there's also the fact that MRA's seem to refuse to denounce any other MRA no matter how sexist or extremist that person is. Feminists call out each other on problematic behavior. MRA's do not. It's a big problem.
But hey, Andrea Dworkin and Valerie Solanas were champions of the women's movement. It's no wonder I can't find any articles from other feminists denouncing their work.
Mei tsuki7
Yobyaxes N
I have yet to see a feminist provide a good argument against these signs without resorting to the whole "Learn about feminism" line. Apparently, they know enough about your movement to have a negative opinion about it because if they truly knew nothing about feminism, they wouldn't give a ******** about it.
I'll do it!
1. So she'd rather be oppressed than "politicize" her gender. Unfortunately, to gain equal rights you must politicize parts of yourself. Is it wrong for those in the LGBT community to "politicize" their sexuality to gain equal rights?
2. Feminism has nothing to do with victim hood. Being oppressed and victim hood are two different things. Though technically all women are "victims" of an oppressive society. Though some would prefer to use the word survivor.
3. Feminism does not demonize men. Some PEOPLE may demonize men but they are not representative of feminism.
What the hell is wrong with having sex? And yes, a woman's sexual activity should be thrown out when investigating if she was raped because having lots of sex does not mean a woman always consents to sex.
Except feminism does not teach women to "be a victim". I have no idea where people are getting that.
4. Again with the victim hood. These women really need to post sources to back up these baseless accusations.
Wow she's blinded to the issues that she and other women face. Yes we face oppression. It's not as overt or big as what women in other countries face but it still occurs.
5. O look. One with no actual argument.
6. I'm capable of critical thinking as well. In fact, I've taken CLASSES in it and my degree is based on LOGICAL THINKING. I still believe that women are oppressed in this country even with such things. My logical thinking actually backs up those arguments.
As for other women representing her, well we always have other people representing us. Is this person also against a representative democracy?
7. Feminism does not belittle men. Just because someone is strong and courageous does not mean that you don't need feminism. It might mean you need feminism LESS than other people but that doesn't mean that you still don't deal with oppression.
8. Feminism actually fights for men's rights. Feminists fought to change the FBI's definition of rape to include men while MRA's sat back and talked about it.
9. This is the first real issue any of these people have brought up. We should not shame and demean any women. Even if they don't identify as feminists. We should educate them on feminism but demeaning them is WRONG and yet does occur.
10. O look another one shaming other women for having sex.
11. Again, feminism fights for men's rights as well as women's. Feminists believe the patriarchy negatively effects men as much as women, which is true.
12. I don't understand how women can believe they're not objectified unless they live under a rock. And yes, she is oppressed. There's no universal look of oppression.
13. The first two have nothing to do with feminism. In fact, feminism backs up such statements. The third is laughably ignorant and is easily debunked by looking up statistics. The fourth is also something feminism does not do.
14. I'll say again that feminism is about equality.
15. This is another one with no actual argument.
1. She doesn't want her gender to be the forefront of what her beliefs in politics are. So she could get into politics and all without the fact that she's a woman get in the way of what real work needs to be done when it comes to the real problems this world has. You're too stupid to understand it, but feminists problems pale in comparison to the actual problems this country has.
2. It's funny how you claim that victimhood and oppression are two different things without explaining it, while at the same time saying that ALL women are victims of the "patriarchy" or whatever. Now ain't that misogynistic to speak for all women like that.
3. Explain to me the concept of "patriarchy" and how that doesn't demonize all men as the word itself just says that all men have "male privilege" including homeless men and men in prison, they sure are privileged huh?
I happen to be pro choice but sometimes there's seriously a problem with SOME womens abuse of the PRIVILEGE that she has to get an abortion. It's funny how society demonises men that don't step up to being a father but when women don't want to be mothers, it's their choice.
You said it on number 2 that women are victims of society.
4. Yeah because apparently, this great country that we live in is Pakistan when it comes to rape cases and our "patriarchy" glorifies rape so much that we let the accused go even when there's 100% proof. You must be tired of everyone on the street talking about how awesome rape is huh?
Hopefully you're not too stupid to detect sarcasm, please.
5. Or, it's not something you can refute.
6. I like how you also stated in the lines above that ALL women are oppressed, thus making you speak for the women in these images. I wonder how much they'll appreciate that. Looks like you'll have to do the "logical" thinking for them.
7. And you're really going to have to tell me how famous women like Margaret Thatcher, Ayn Rand, Phyllis Schlafly and others got to where they are without feminism. They all rejected feminism you know. And because hey, women in the army still need feminism because apparently without it, women are just weak, fragile girls that can't do anything for themselves.
8. How do you know it was feminists that wanted the FBI to change the definition? And where are the feminists fighting against false rape accusations made against men? But oh, that doesn't need any fixing because it's only 2% right?
9. We should not shame and demean women, even if they're not feminist, except for this post you made. That's the exception.
10. Well yeah, cause cheating on and deceiving men is AOK. And hey, a woman that consents to sex while drunk is always a victim huh?
11. I still wonder how a "patriarchy", which oppresses women and elevates men, can throw their own men under the bus. Of course, the 99% of men that are at the bottom of the social poll are still elevated above women. Women must obviously make the majority of imprisonments, the homeless and suicides right, because the "patriarchy" is just too strong.
12. I wonder just how "objectified" that secretary working at a major CEO's office is. She comes to work everyday with a smile on her face, that means she's obviously oppressed. It's the same story for the girl smiling in that image.
13. She's an adult that needs feminism just like a baby needs it's mother. Why else would you say that all women need feminism?
Don't you know that only feminism can provide empowerment? Not being a feminist makes you a misogynist or brainwashed.
Hmm.. the statistics show that men make the majority of suicides, homeless, and they also lose the vast majority of times in divorce cases. But that only makes the more "privileged" now does it?
Hopefully that "male privilege" men have won't stop you from respecting them, until they say they're not privilege cause in that case, hate away.
14. Getting lazy now?
15. Or are you in denial?
