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- Posted: Fri, 04 May 2012 06:10:56 +0000
I appreciate that you can disagree with me without saying my post is complete bullshit. That is respectable.
I see no ACTUAL evidence that so-called "Terrorists" are out to get us, and that the ******** stationed all over, basically getting paid to run through drills and otherwise ********, are somehow preventing such an attack. I believe the bombs, and solely the bombs, are preventing such an attack. I simply do NOT see the use of soldiers in "protecting our rights." They are outdated in this era, and really, their only efforts could POSSIBLY be humanitarian, if we were to use them effectively/diplomatically, but despite this so-called "rule" you mentioned, we are killing mostly civilians in what the military chalks off as "guerrilla warfare"-- a euphemism used to defend collateral murder. Second, while you say "We don't like to kill civilians," I actually say that's a blanket statement in your favor. Do you know that the Marines takes in felons? It's the only branch that does allow that, and I do NOT believe they are all screened for mental health. You have to LIKE to kill and be "on the edge" to be a bullet catcher. And on top of that, there is VIDEO EVIDENCE of soldiers mutilating/abusing/killing civilians. You consider them a "small minority" but don't say "we" when there are exceptions. And we don't know how MANY exceptions.
Here's an example. My BF's sister is 18 years old. She is enlisting in the Army. She starts off by saying that "sex is the Morale of the military". As in she knows everyone ******** each other (and this IS something I've heard from people on active duty) and that's how people get by on the social level. I am aware there are exceptions but that is not the general tone of things. The second thing is that she specifically wants to go in so that she CAN kill people legally. She wants to kill, she wants to torture, and she wants to see people die. She wants to "blow them up and laugh". She WANTS that, and I can guarantee they are not going to have a "problem" with this. She isn't "mentally ill" by anyone's standards-- she just has a "weird preference". She's already sworn in, started PT, and is due for shipment. They never "checked" on her to see if she's crazy or sick or not. She has an undiagnosed case of Crohn's disease (or something like it) but they have her already all registered and everything. If she can manage to not vomit constantly in Basic, she'll slip through unnoticed. It helps her that she has awesome tits. If this girl actually gets through it will prove to me how unmanaged the military really is.
I will NOT deny that weapons are getting more accurate. I will NOT deny that targets are being better sought out, whereas war was more visibly a genocide. However, can you name me the TARGET of the vague concept of the "War on Terror"? What IS our target and why have we not taken care of it?
Do you know who and how many American soldiers stand between North and South Korea? It is very small. The stand off there is a silent political battle. And the US being there creates this weird "third party" tension, but I do not see how we are actually PHYSICALLY preventing them from engaging in combat.
I think it is OUTRAGEOUS to assume that the United States, in as much National Debt as it is in, is really the only country standing between "forced peace" and WWIII. I think that is arrogant and I think that is short-sighted.
I already acknowledged deterrence. But I do not believe our soldiers are doing it. The way they act and talk about their jobs, most of them I encounter are just in there for college money, and don't have a real dedication to the "cause". The social climate of enlistment has changed drastically since the economy ate s**t. People are scrambling to get in because it's a job, and they want back out to their civilian life after they've claimed their military benefits. It's a waiting game for them. "I can handle this for a few years, so long as I get out."
I will actually agree that the military itself has not brainwashed people into being paranoid. It IS politics. I've actually seen recruiters say, "You will never be in combat, we will pay for your schooling, and you can just have a civilian job with great pay!" like joining the military has nothing to do with actually being IN the military. Despite the fact they put everyone through PT and Basic. It's all very clear. There's a "catch" they're not mentioning to those who enlist. And if you ask too many questions, this job isn't for you. I certainly question their agenda, when I am not allowed to enlist simply because I have abnormal genitalia.
I am aware of the atrocities in other countries. What I am not sure about is why, if we have a militia powerful enough to destroy anyone, that we don't? If we are so stealth that we can kill leaders of corrupt countries undetected, and even conquer those countries afterwards, why don't we? If we are policing the world's nations, why do we insist upon doing so half-assed, so just kind of watch (closely) and keep bitching about it? Our military presence is actually not in any way ceasing those atrocities. In times of WAR (and that IS what is happening when you invade someone else's country, from their perspective), people act even MORE crazy. It is the end of the world as THEY know it.
To say "people want to kill us just because" is outrageously vague justification for what we do. Much like "The War on Terror".
I do not want my kids to grow up in a world at constant stand-off. If the world were to destroy itself leaving people in a society that is backed to bartering and self-care, at least my children could live lives outside of the Age of Terror. What money has done to this world is outrageous corruption. Luxury and propaganda and paranoia. A strict two-party system where they are forced to choose between two radical belief systems if they want a say at all. Living in a country where healthcare and housing are something you have to be in CONSTANT battles with the banks over. Military spending has taken precedence over the quality of life for our citizens. There are more than 1.8 million homeless children in this country. ******** CHILDREN. That does not include decent men and women who are out of health or simply too far in poverty to get out despite all of their efforts. Medical issues in MY life nearly ruined my economic chances FOR LIFE. I had to play my cards right to avoid having all of my assets immediately swiped right out from under me. It's disgusting that the United States prides themselves in this manner yet we are far behind many if not most of our allies on healthcare, education, environmental policy, transportation, and other civilian-affecting matters. I do not see ANY excuse that could justify how we handle student debt, and how piss-poor our hospitals are and the outrageous charges that ruin people's lives (and this does NOT happen in other countries like it does here).
If we are to make the world that I WANT my children to grow up in, we are going to have to cut military funding DRASTICALLY, and completely reform medicare. Not the half-assed plan that Obama had, which wasn't too bad to start but was almost completely re-written before being passed.
I think the idea that there could be a "series of unexpected Terror attacks!" is outrageously paranoid considering the investment we have in our Intelligence programs. I think we know exactly what we're dealing with but like to tell people that we don't so they will do what we want them to.
I never said those Japanese school girls were under age. But yeah. People are basically over there having parties and having sex, and getting paid out of my taxes to do it. It's ******** annoying.
I'm not arguing with you, I actually agree a lot with what you said. However, a large argument is based on anecdotal evidence, especially concerning the military and how people act in the military.
I'd also like to ask if you have an idea what the role of the US Military would be if it was severely cut, what purpose would it serve? Continuing to station on Japan, Korea, etc? Being in ********?