Homosexuality Is NOT A Sin: What Christ Said And More

[linaloki]

Rookherst[KOS]

linaloki

The word Hell is English. The Bible was not translated into English until much later than the Norse were around.

rolleyes The Norse were SOOO after the Christians, seriously. rolleyes

Considering some of the Sutton Hoo Artifacts were dated around 300 BCE.

Which I was going to look up the dates of Vikingdom... sweatdrop I was pretty sure they were around the same time as the start of the Roman Empire, at least.

[Jpen]

linaloki

jpen

"The concept of a fiery eternal torment is a wink and a nod to Dante's The Divine Comedy (more specifically, Inferno), a fictional story that is, for all ostensible purposes, a marvelously-woven political commentary"
the word was borrowed yes but the concept thats laughable that you can say something like that,, whos words were you repeating again?

I didn't say that. Elf Lord Chiewn has. And the current concept of hell borrows from many cultures, Norse included.

the fact that you repeated him saying it implies that you agree with him
oh and nice try, avoiding abuse wink
name some of the concepts then?

[linaloki]

Rookherst[KOS]

linaloki

...No one's explaining the fig tree to me... crying

God hates Figs, and Newtonian Physics.

Therefore: God hates Fig Newtons. Eat them not, for they are Confectionery Sin.

gonk Sheet. I like Fig Newtons.

[Rookherst[KOS]]

linaloki

Which I was going to look up the dates of Vikingdom... sweatdrop I was pretty sure they were around the same time as the start of the Roman Empire, at least.

that First Line was Sarcasm....

The Norse were a VERY pre-existing Culture to the Romans. Rome is Older then Christ, Norse are older then Rome: Thus Norse are Older then Christ.

[linaloki]

jpen

linaloki

jpen

"The concept of a fiery eternal torment is a wink and a nod to Dante's The Divine Comedy (more specifically, Inferno), a fictional story that is, for all ostensible purposes, a marvelously-woven political commentary"
the word was borrowed yes but the concept thats laughable that you can say something like that,, whos words were you repeating again?

I didn't say that. Elf Lord Chiewn has. And the current concept of hell borrows from many cultures, Norse included.

the fact that you repeated him saying it implies that you agree with him
oh and nice try, avoiding abuse wink

I'm merely refering you to who said it. Yes, I do agree with him. The Norse concept of Helheim was a place of eternal punishment for souls. More than just the word was taken.

I hate quoting wikipedia, but:

Wiki

Norse or Scandinavian mythology comprises the pre-Christian religion, beliefs and legends of the Scandinavian people, including those who settled on Iceland, where the written sources for Norse mythology were assembled.

The current view of hell borrows from Dante's Inferno, Norse Mythos, Greek Mythos, and mix ups with Revelation.

[Jpen]

crap misworded again,,,,
@rookherst, but does norse outdate the concept of hell
and in christianity i meant the belief in God
oh on our previous discussion on "fall of satan not listen in bible"
satan was still and angel of god in Job

[Sound Doxa]

Sorry Loki!
I thought Marshal had dealed with that already.
I'll try to, but like I said to Rook, my brain's kinda fizzled now.
'kay.
So I really didn't see anger there. You're referencing, Matthew 21:18, right?
For me, I just saw it as Jesus being awesome.
The fig tree didn't have any fruit, so Jesus destroyed it. I just personally didn't see it as anger. Perhaps since it was only a tree, I didn't liken it to anger, as of being angry with your fellow man.

[Rookherst[KOS]]

jpen

@rookherst, but does norse outdate the concept of hell

Au Contraire, Silly Bear!!!
Lets ask some Orthodox Jews if they have "Hell".
Hint: they don't.

Now...if you are going to argue for the Greek "hell", then I suppose you look up exactly what Tartarus was.

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oh on our previous discussion on "fall of satan not listen in bible"
satan was still and angel of god in Job

have I ever said Contrary.....well Kinda. I consider from my reading Satan to be a entity higher then man, but lower then angles....for a specific role as the accuser and opposition to man. (not god)

[linaloki]

SoundDoctrine

Sorry Loki!
I thought Marshal had dealed with that already.
I'll try to, but like I said to Rook, my brain's kinda fizzled now.
'kay.
So I really didn't see anger there. You're referencing, Matthew 21:18, right?
For me, I just saw it as Jesus being awesome.
The fig tree didn't have any fruit, so Jesus destroyed it. I just personally didn't see it as anger. Perhaps since it was only a tree, I didn't liken it to anger, as of being angry with your fellow man.

Yup, Matthew's who I speak of. I dunno, I've always seen it as proof of his human nature, much like John's "Jesus wept." It was proof that, yes, he could get angry...

[Jpen]

proverbs was written before norse culture right?
read proverbs 5

[Sound Doxa]

linaloki

SoundDoctrine

Sorry Loki!
I thought Marshal had dealed with that already.
I'll try to, but like I said to Rook, my brain's kinda fizzled now.
'kay.
So I really didn't see anger there. You're referencing, Matthew 21:18, right?
For me, I just saw it as Jesus being awesome.
The fig tree didn't have any fruit, so Jesus destroyed it. I just personally didn't see it as anger. Perhaps since it was only a tree, I didn't liken it to anger, as of being angry with your fellow man.

Yup, Matthew's who I speak of. I dunno, I've always seen it as proof of his human nature, much like John's "Jesus wept." It was proof that, yes, he could get angry...

For me, since He was just like,"No longer shall there ever be any fruit from you." and the fig tree only withered, that it wasn't really anger, the way I see anger. It wasn't like He said,"Tree! You suck a**! You'll never have fruit again because you're so crappy!" and made the tree explode or anything like that. With the context:

Matthew 21:20-22

20Seeing this, the disciples were amazed and asked, "How did the fig tree wither all at once?"

21And Jesus answered and said to them, "Truly I say to you, (V)if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, 'Be taken up and cast into the sea,' it will happen.

22"And (W)all things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive."

It seemed to just showcase a bit of Jesus' awesomeness, and it was a way for Jesus to tell them about having faith.

[Rookherst[KOS]]

jpen

proverbs was written before norse culture right?

Care to Provide a dateing of that Backed by a reputable Archeologist and Historian?

Also: Proverbs 5 Refers to Sheol. Care to explain how Sheol suddenly = Hell.

I knew there was such a thing as Self loathing Jews, but I didn't think it went as far as to Theologically claim that no matter what....they were gonna burn. Period.

[No No Raja]

The fig tree had nothing to do with anger.

It had to do with hypocrisy. The fig tree bore no fruit, but it still looked alive--a metaphorical, cheap symbol for those who are hypocrites, saying and looking like they follow the religion but really don't. As a result, they bear no "fruit" and will not join God in heaven, going to "die" in Gehenna, like when Jesus killed the fig tree.

[linaloki]

jpen

proverbs was written before norse culture right?
read proverbs 5

Sheol.

[Rookherst[KOS]]

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For me, since He was just like,"No longer shall there ever be any fruit from you." and the fig tree only withered, that it wasn't really anger, the way I see anger. It wasn't like He said,"Tree! You suck a**! You'll never have fruit again because you're so crappy!" and made the tree explode or anything like that.

Had he done so though, I think i'd worship him even more!!! razz